2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Vintage Collector

Bottom line is there was alot of shady crap that took place in this election. Both candidates should want to expose any fraud so this doesn't happen again.

Like what?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by discostu

Because Donald Trump won 2016 in a self-described "landslide," alluding to the Electoral College margin (even after losing the popular vote by close to 3 million votes)...did he now just lose in a landslide?

Same margin...but on the other side, and losing the popular vote by perhaps 6 million this time.

Where's Kellyanne when we need her to explain these..."alternative facts?"

I like the trump tweet from 4 years ago where he reiterated a quote from Putin about the dems being sore losers. Legit LOL’d about that one. It was posted in here like 100 pages ago.

Following this stuff at this point seems like a waste of time. Biden won like a week ago. It’s been ova. Although the trump meltdown may be satisfying for some.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by discostu

It's either insane or unsettling that this is the mentality.

The GOP needs to step in here and stop playing along.

Pubs gonna pub. Making losing to biden even worse than it was last week, if that's even possible. Pathetic.



This is embarrassing. The pubs need to man up and move on, focus on the georgia runoff race and get focused on 2022 and 2024.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Vintage Collector

Bottom line is there was alot of shady crap that took place in this election. Both candidates should want to expose any fraud so this doesn't happen again.

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Like what?

Yeah, do tell.

Trump claimed massive fraud in 2016. Then he won. Then he created a commission. Then he disbanded the commission which produced nothing other than shame and embarrassment.

Shame and embarrassment seems to be coming in droves with these inane lawsuits.

He lost.

The only scenario where he stays in power is a wildly, incomprehensible thievery of the office.

His ego is hurt, but time to put the big boy pants on and for those around him to stop coddling him.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Vintage Collector

Bottom line is there was alot of shady crap that took place in this election. Both candidates should want to expose any fraud so this doesn't happen again.

I agree. Widespread and rampant voter fraud has been shown on video and proven repeatedly, but the dems just don't want to hear it or admit it. How doesn't everyone see it?!?!?!?!?!?!?


This was the Shadiest election in the history of elections. Big time!!!!



Oh. wait................Nothing has been proven, except for rare isolated cases. It's all just desperation from the GOP.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by discostu

Yeah, do tell.



Trump claimed massive fraud in 2016. Then he won. Then he created a commission. Then he disbanded the commission which produced nothing other than shame and embarrassment.



Shame and embarrassment seems to be coming in droves with these inane lawsuits.



He lost.



The only scenario where he stays in power is a wildly, incomprehensible thievery of the office.



His ego is hurt, but time to put the big boy pants on and for those around him to stop coddling him.

I hope the nuclear football is secure.

One never knows what might happen with an unhinged whackjob in power. Gaddafi, Saddam, Mussolini... sometimes they choose to go down with the ship.

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[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by discostu

The only scenario where he stays in power is a wildly, incomprehensible thievery of the office.

His ego is hurt, but time to put the big boy pants on and for those around him to stop coddling him.

I don’t see any crazy scenario like that playing out. God help us if they overturn this in favor of Trump. Civil war might break out as Covid is ramping up hard.

I agree that his ego has needed too much soothing since he took this L. I hate whiners. The libs used to have that market cornered, but trump has told them to hold his beer, and the conservatives going to bat for him look almost as bad... trying to pick up scraps in a desperate political play. Find your dignity and move on.

[discostu]

130 Secret Service officers in quarantine?

Yikes!

[sonnyday]

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

This is awesome

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[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro on Fox Business: "We are moving forward here at the White House under the assumption that there will be a second Trump term... We think he won that election, and any speculation about what Joe Biden might do I think is moot at this point."

This makes me feel better because Peter Navarro is famous for being wrong about everything

What a weird time and place to be alive

[chippv]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Like what?

https://www.chron.com/news/article/H...f-15717681.php

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I like the trump tweet from 4 years ago where he reiterated a quote from Putin about the dems being sore losers. Legit LOL’d about that one. It was posted in here like 100 pages ago.

Following this stuff at this point seems like a waste of time. Biden won like a week ago. It’s been ova. Although the trump meltdown may be satisfying for some.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by chippv

https://www.chron.com/news/article/H...f-15717681.php

How many of those votes were for Biden and how many for Trump?

[pac213up]

Most secure election in US history. Trumpers gonna Trump.

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12...uncil-election

[chippv]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

How many of those votes were for Biden and how many for Trump?

Nobody knows still under investigation. Tampering was done in the election. Kathy Boockvar Pa Secretary of state even said some people were caught trying to mail in deceased relatives ballots. Was it enough to turn the election? probably not. At this point Trump just needs to concede and let it be. We have far more important issues that need to be addressed.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

LOL that’s the one! Sounded good at the time... looks terrible now. It’s one thing for American citizens to get all sour about a result, but you’re the GD president. I voted for the guy, but can’t co-sign the tantrum he’s been throwing. I get it... dems gave him hell, but this was an opportunity to rise above it.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by chippv

https://www.chron.com/news/article/H...f-15717681.php

Any actual evidence because this individual is not trustworthy and recanted when interviewed by federal investigators and is now back saying he never recanted.

Honestly, I'm at the point where if someone is crying wolf about this election and then produces no hard evidence, there needs to be some form of punishment. Trump retweeting people like this and using this as evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, his own crack legal team is basically batting .000 in the courts and you have offices like DHS saying the election was on the up and up.

Trump's refusal to speak to the public or concede is yet another embarrassment on a tenure that is filled to the brim of them.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Any actual evidence because this individual is not trustworthy and recanted when interviewed by federal investigators and is now back saying he never recanted.

Honestly, I'm at the point where if someone is crying wolf about this election and then produces no hard evidence, there needs to be some form of punishment. Trump retweeting people like this and using this as evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, his own crack legal team is basically batting .000 in the courts and you have offices like DHS saying the election was on the up and up.

Trump's refusal to speak to the public or concede is yet another embarrassment on a tenure that is filled to the brim of them.

If I understand correctly, PA isn’t counting votes received after Election Day, regardless of postmark. And now they are not allowed to count. So even if this story is true, it has zero impact. It also doesn’t appear to be true anyway.

[JustRachel]

There was all this talk about Covid being used as a political stunt, as soon as the election is over it goes away, Dems won't talk about it, the Fake News won't run stories on it, blah blah blah.

In reality, news networks are covering it, the Dems are talking about it, and it has not gone away. The only person that hasn't talked about it is the President of the United States. Suddenly we get radio silence from him.

I find that odd, but unsurprising.

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[chippv]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Any actual evidence because this individual is not trustworthy and recanted when interviewed by federal investigators and is now back saying he never recanted.

Honestly, I'm at the point where if someone is crying wolf about this election and then produces no hard evidence, there needs to be some form of punishment. Trump retweeting people like this and using this as evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, his own crack legal team is basically batting .000 in the courts and you have offices like DHS saying the election was on the up and up.

Trump's refusal to speak to the public or concede is yet another embarrassment on a tenure that is filled to the brim of them.

It is still under investigation. I think the mail in voting was a disaster. There should of been a clear winner on election night. It just opened up a can of worms for allegations.
Did I vote for Trump? yes I did. Do I agree with all his drama absolutely NOT.
I voted for him on his policy of Fracking which supports 100's of thousands of jobs in the area. A lot of my clients work in the field and right now are in danger of losing good paying jobs. That was the only reason I voted for him.
But like I said above it is time to move on from the silliness and get America back on the right track.

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I don’t see any crazy scenario like that playing out. God help us if they overturn this in favor of Trump. Civil war might break out as Covid is ramping up hard.

I agree that his ego has needed too much soothing since he took this L. I hate whiners. The libs used to have that market cornered, but trump has told them to hold his beer, and the conservatives going to bat for him look almost as bad... trying to pick up scraps in a desperate political play. Find your dignity and move on.

I have a bad feeling that in the next 2 weeks we are going to be seeing serious discussions in GOP assemblies in these swing states about throwing out the vote and appointing their own electors in favor of Trump. Pretty sure Trump and his people know that unless there is some massive coordinated voter fraud ring uncovered that any few instances of individual fraud that are found won't be enough to overturn the results. The play for the Trump team is to continue to scream the vote is rigged, as he has done for months, and then place enough doubt in everyone's mind that there are enough irregularities to make it seem like the accuracy of the vote is in question.

Now if this happens the question is going to be if the GOP is bold enough to go through with it. From what we have seen from them over the last decade in regards to blatant power grabs I feel that they are bold enough to do it, it is just a matter of if the ones that haven't gone insane go along with it or if the party is split over doing so. And like you said, if somehow this is overturned in Trump's favor I am afraid of the potential violence that could erupt.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by chippv

Nobody knows still under investigation. Tampering was done in the election. Kathy Boockvar Pa Secretary of state even said some people were caught trying to mail in deceased relatives ballots. Was it enough to turn the election? probably not. At this point Trump just needs to concede and let it be. We have far more important issues that need to be addressed.

This is the same Kathy Boockvar who is asking the courts to throw out all of these frivolous lawsuits?

There's nothing.

Nothing.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by chippv

It is still under investigation. I think the mail in voting was a disaster. There should of been a clear winner on election night. It just opened up a can of worms for allegations.
Did I vote for Trump? yes I did. Do I agree with all his drama absolutely NOT.
I voted for him on his policy of Fracking which supports 100's of thousands of jobs in the area. A lot of my clients work in the field and right now are in danger of losing good paying jobs. That was the only reason I voted for him.
But like I said above it is time to move on from the silliness and get America back on the right track.

Fun fact, states wanted to count ballots as they came in rather than having to wait and states like Pennsylvania got blocked by the republicans.

Again, why do we need results election night? That makes no sense. You’d rather them rush the count so you can go to sleep at night rather than get the count right even if it takes a few days or even a week?

And how was mail in voting a disaster? Again, things worked just fine, it’s people who have zero patience and needs results NOW that need to adjust their expectations.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I have a bad feeling that in the next 2 weeks we are going to be seeing serious discussions in GOP assemblies in these swing states about throwing out the vote and appointing their own electors in favor of Trump. Pretty sure Trump and his people know that unless there is some massive coordinated voter fraud ring uncovered that any few instances of individual fraud that are found won't be enough to overturn the results. The play for the Trump team is to continue to scream the vote is rigged, as he has done for months, and then place enough doubt in everyone's mind that there are enough irregularities to make it seem like the accuracy of the vote is in question.

Now if this happens the question is going to be if the GOP is bold enough to go through with it. From what we have seen from them over the last decade in regards to blatant power grabs I feel that they are bold enough to do it, it is just a matter of if the ones that haven't gone insane go along with it or if the party is split over doing so. And like you said, if somehow this is overturned in Trump's favor I am afraid of the potential violence that could erupt.

Minds are simply broken. There's no other explanation.

L Ron Hubbard is jealous of the kind of crazy above.