The Hotstove Thread - Page 25

base set · 12-06-2018, 02:18 PM

it's easy to forget that expensive contracts can still be traded, if the team holding the contract just agrees to continue to pay some portion of the money (though usually that would be a pill swallowed reluctantly).

worked out OK for the Tigers with the Prince Fielder deal. (course, that ended badly for Texas in a not really foreseen way but I do think both teams had insurance on that contract.)

Homerun · 12-06-2018, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheddar

The Cubs could sign Harper, but they'd be staring down the barrel of some serious luxury tax penalties in the near future, and they're coming up on needing to resign Bryant and Baez to some pretty significant deals (if they choose to). My Cubs dream moves are to ship Jason Heyward somewhere and eating as much of his contract as it takes, and getting rid of Addison Russell by any means.

Exactly. It's not impossible for the Cubs to sign him but the penalties they would face for going over the luxury tax are severe and they would most likely want to avoid that. This is what the common Cubs fan doesn't understand. The only way I see it happening is if they shed Heyward's contract which is very unlikely.

glassnickels · 12-06-2018, 03:02 PM

They're going to be over anyways regardless. Just depends which level they can stomach and what they expect the payroll to be on the coming years. Gotta start paying these young guys soon.

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SethMurphy · 12-06-2018, 03:26 PM

Interesting FA note - Michael Brantley's reps are saying he is willing to play 1B full-time.

Could open some new markets for the veteran if he is willing to be mobile

JrFinest · 12-06-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Homerun

Exactly. It's not impossible for the Cubs to sign him but the penalties they would face for going over the luxury tax are severe and they would most likely want to avoid that. This is what the common Cubs fan doesn't understand. The only way I see it happening is if they shed Heyward's contract which is very unlikely.

Heyward isn't going anywhere. No chance of an opt out either with as much as he's getting paid. lol. I don't see any team wanting that.

erock28 · 12-06-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SethMurphy

Interesting FA note - Michael Brantley's reps are saying he is willing to play 1B full-time.

Could open some new markets for the veteran if he is willing to be mobile

I have a hard time believing anyone could get excited about a 15-20 HR guy playing first base...especially one that is brittle and on the wrong side of 30

Homerun · 12-06-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JrFinest

Heyward isn't going anywhere. No chance of an opt out either with as much as he's getting paid. lol. I don't see any team wanting that.

Yep. Harper to the Cubs is not happening.

Wolves4Life · 12-06-2018, 04:55 PM

Cubs don't NEED Harper. BTW Heyward > Harper on defense and it's not even close.

Wolves4Life · 12-06-2018, 04:56 PM

Schoop 7 mill 1 year and Torreyes 800k to the Twins.

Hollywood42 · 12-06-2018, 05:02 PM

Schoop was far from my first choice for 1B. Could be a great signing, but it could be terrible

Wolves4Life · 12-06-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Schoop was far from my first choice for 1B. Could be a great signing, but it could be terrible

He's not playing 1st.

Ray27Ray52 · 12-06-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

He's not playing 1st.

Wolves assures us that Schoop won't be playing 1st next season which virtually guarantees that Schoop will be playing 1st next season.

Wolves4Life · 12-06-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Wolves assures us that Schoop won't be playing 1st next season which virtually guarantees that Schoop will be playing 1st next season.

If the Twins want to lead the league in errors, Go ahead.

Hollywood42 · 12-06-2018, 06:14 PM

Typo......

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

He's not playing 1st.

Wolves4Life · 12-06-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Typo......

Ahh, These days you never know what position a guy will play, Especially with infielders pitching so often.

trogdor · 12-06-2018, 06:44 PM

Any chance the Yankees sign Keuchel?

Dodgerfan74 · 12-06-2018, 09:49 PM

JackThree-Trying to figure out why Dodgers would want Abreu. Dodgers have Bellinger, Muncy, and Freese. Dodgers going to put Bellinger in CF and trade Joc Pederson and Muncy?

speedyjg13 · 12-06-2018, 11:39 PM

Angels trade LHP Jose Alvarez to the Phillies for RHP Luis Garcia

rman112 · 12-06-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Angels trade LHP Jose Alvarez to the Phillies for RHP Luis Garcia

Now this is the move I've been waiting to hear about.

Homerun · 12-07-2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

JackThree-Trying to figure out why Dodgers would want Abreu. Dodgers have Bellinger, Muncy, and Freese. Dodgers going to put Bellinger in CF and trade Joc Pederson and Muncy?

What would you say to Pederson for Abreu straight up?

shortking98 · 12-07-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Homerun

What would you say to Pederson for Abreu straight up?

Can't see the Dodgers preferring Abreu to Pederson. Abreu has 1 expensive year of control left and Pederson 2, plus Pederson is younger, more versatile defensively and coming off a much better 2018. Abreu may be going into decline at this point while Pederson is reaching his prime years.

Dodgerfan74 · 12-07-2018, 11:44 PM

Kemp for Abreu straight up maybe

JackThree · 12-08-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

Kemp for Abreu straight up maybe

Seriously? Why would the Sox want Kemp if they’re rebuilding? If they’re actually “going for it”, they might as well just keep Abreu. Unless of course they could trade him to free up money so they can sign both Harper AND Machado. They could replace Abreu at 1B with a trade to STL for Jose Martinez, now that Goldschmidt is there.

If they trade Abreu to LA, it’s going to be for either Pederson or Puig plus a non top 10 prospect along with one of them.

Homerun · 12-08-2018, 01:10 AM

Jose Martinez would be a nice DH for the Sox. He can hit.

Dodgerfan74 · 12-08-2018, 09:57 AM

Salary dump for both teams. Abreu has 1 more year left on his contract too. Dodgers can add non top 10 prospect.

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12-06-2018, 02:18 PM	#601
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,448	it's easy to forget that expensive contracts can still be traded, if the team holding the contract just agrees to continue to pay some portion of the money (though usually that would be a pill swallowed reluctantly). worked out OK for the Tigers with the Prince Fielder deal. (course, that ended badly for Texas in a not really foreseen way but I do think both teams had insurance on that contract.)

12-06-2018, 03:02 PM	#603
glassnickels Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,087	They're going to be over anyways regardless. Just depends which level they can stomach and what they expect the payroll to be on the coming years. Gotta start paying these young guys soon. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

12-06-2018, 04:55 PM	#608
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,455	Cubs don't NEED Harper. BTW Heyward > Harper on defense and it's not even close.

12-06-2018, 04:56 PM	#609
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,455	Schoop 7 mill 1 year and Torreyes 800k to the Twins.

12-06-2018, 09:49 PM	#617
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,348	JackThree-Trying to figure out why Dodgers would want Abreu. Dodgers have Bellinger, Muncy, and Freese. Dodgers going to put Bellinger in CF and trade Joc Pederson and Muncy?

12-06-2018, 11:39 PM	#618
speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,226	Angels trade LHP Jose Alvarez to the Phillies for RHP Luis Garcia

12-07-2018, 11:44 PM	#622
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,348	Kemp for Abreu straight up maybe

12-08-2018, 09:57 AM	#625
Dodgerfan74 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,348	Salary dump for both teams. Abreu has 1 more year left on his contract too. Dodgers can add non top 10 prospect.