2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2498

GOWIFB · 11-12-2020, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Yep he called it. Then it happened. It is hilarious.

There is fraud in every election and that is a proven fact. If Trump can bring some of it to light and improve future elections that is a win.

I find national lockdowns and health tracing etc that Dems are proposing to be much more of an attack on our democracy.

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Come on, don't pretend like you don't see the difference. Trump is alleging without evidence widespread massive coordinated voter fraud that was possibly going to, and then did, cost him the election. He is not saying that isolated incidents are present in every election and that we need to continue to review our procedures to limit any potential fraud. And he is making it out that only democrats are possible of committing isolated incidents of voter fraud, even though republicans have been convicted of it before as well.

gonzagacubs · 11-12-2020, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Pretty sure he has no authority to do this.

And yet somehow, President Trump is solely to blame for COVID and where we are at currently with it. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It was left up to the individual states on how they were to respond to COVID.

I think we have all learned in these last few months, we have a hard time listening. Mask or no mask, whatever. People don’t care. Lock it down, no. People won’t listen. It’s just the way it’s going to be. It’s unfortunate.

sportzluvr1 · 11-12-2020, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Pretty sure he has no authority to do this.

Lol nobody’s listening to that corpse...just like nobody is listening to the fat ass who runs (walks) this corrupt state that I’m in.

NeedChapmans · 11-12-2020, 07:36 PM

Imagine being afraid of your sons and daughters coming home from war.

JustRachel · 11-12-2020, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Lol yes I realize that Dems were trying from day one to get rid of him. That was the first thing that stuck. They also claimed Russia was responsible for him being elected and Hilary should have been president. Among a million other claims. Anyone with half a clue knows the Dems were just sore losers and spent 4 years trying to do what they couldn't do in the 2016 election. And that is beat Trump. Now Trump has been doing it for 9 days and Dems are freaking out. It is hilarious to watch. Personally I hope Trump spends the next 4 years tormenting Biden and Democrats anyway he can.

As much as I dislike Trump, most of this is valid. The Dems acted childish in many ways.

That doesn't excuse Trump now though, not does it excuse the last sentence of this post.

"But they did it too" doesn't fly with me.

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JustRachel · 11-12-2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

He shouldn't but it will not suprise me one bit. The MSM and social media will push it as "the right thing to do" to save lives and stop covid. Hopefully congress will shut it down.

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Not necessary. Congress has no authority over states' rights either.

rcmb3220 · 11-12-2020, 07:39 PM

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JustRachel · 11-12-2020, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Imagine being afraid of your sons and daughters coming home from war.

Imagine being afraid they'll have to go back again anyway.

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Jopeal · 11-12-2020, 07:40 PM

ballhawkdawk · 11-12-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

ROFL if you think Hitler didn't use the media to further the Nazi agenda with propaganda. Maybe you should learn your history first before admonishing people about it.

When a media is lying as much as our politicians I'm ok with people calling them out for it.

I watched one of them multi episode docs about WWII on netflix... fascinating stuff. Ive never really been a history guy but absolutely loved that series. I think it was World War II In Color or something. The nazis did exactly that... used propaganda to further their agenda. The strategy of war was super interesting back then.

fidrych · 11-12-2020, 07:41 PM

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ballhawkdawk · 11-12-2020, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The sad reality is that there will be people who decide not to get together for Thanksgiving; and these people will believe they're making a sacrifice for the greater good. Great intentions.

But terribly pointless. 15 days to slow the spread. Protect the hospitals. Eight months later; don't spend time w/ your family for the holiday's and Cuomo says anymore than 10 people in your house is against the law. What a sad state of affairs.

Go throw a party on the street if you want however; still totally OK and approved by the CDC.

I got a bday party for my daughter coming up on 11/21 and then we’re having thanksgiving at my crib. RIP in pieces Covid. Lockdowns ended on the date of the first protest.

NeedChapmans · 11-12-2020, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Imagine being afraid they'll have to go back again anyway.

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(I don't understand how your comment relates to my point, but ...).

Can't stop Joe from doing what he'll do.

NeedChapmans · 11-12-2020, 07:54 PM

30 day stay at home order starts Monday in Chicago people. Just not for her.

lietuvalabas · 11-12-2020, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I got a bday party for my daughter coming up on 11/21 and then we’re having thanksgiving at my crib. RIP in pieces Covid. Lockdowns ended on the date of the first protest.

100% stealing the quote for my own now.

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30 day stay at home order starts Monday in Chicago people. Just not for her.

yup #lookinglikegradyfromsanfordandsonprivilege

lionsfan20 · 11-12-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

As much as I dislike Trump, most of this is valid. The Dems acted childish in many ways.

That doesn't excuse Trump now though, not does it excuse the last sentence of this post.

"But they did it too" doesn't fly with me.

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Don't care. I'm looking forward to Trump being a complete tool for the next 4 years. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. Many republicans are tired of the BS from Dems the last 4 years. The 2016 transition was the worst I have seen in my lifetime. IE #notmypresident. It was like he never actually won and Dems never really accepted it. I honestly believe if they would have just accepted Trump as president and tried to actually work with him at all instead of against him for 4 years Trump would have been more gracious in defeat in 2020. Dems brought it on themselves. "You reap what you sow"

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mike1498 · 11-12-2020, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jopeal

Okay let’s be real, even new jersians didn’t want the boogeyman up there. He was the least relevant guy up there.

jewcer2k5 · 11-12-2020, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Don't care. I'm looking forward to Trump being a complete tool for the next 4 years. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. Many republicans are tired of the BS from Dems the last 4 years. The 2016 transition was the worst I have seen in my lifetime. IE #notmypresident. It was like he never actually won and Dems never really accepted it. I honestly believe if they would have just accepted Trump as president and tried to actually work with him at all instead of against him for 4 years Trump would have been more gracious in defeat in 2020. Dems brought it on themselves. "You reap what you sow"

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Not my president started with the GOP and Obama. How quickly it is forgotten.

lietuvalabas · 11-12-2020, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Don't care. I'm looking forward to Trump being a complete tool for the next 4 years. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. Many republicans are tired of the BS from Dems the last 4 years. The 2016 transition was the worst I have seen in my lifetime. IE #notmypresident. It was like he never actually won and Dems never really accepted it. I honestly believe if they would have just accepted Trump as president and tried to actually work with him at all instead of against him for 4 years Trump would have been more gracious in defeat in 2020. Dems brought it on themselves. "You reap what you sow"

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This 100%, there are sooooo many situations in life where i feel like you need to take the high road on things. This is not one of them, the resiliency of this man after being dogged day after day after day. Did he bring some on himself with silly things he said? sure. But since day 1? Or before day 1 I should say? Fair is fair. Now i do think the right as a whole needs to be better than the far left as far as these "woke" demonstrations or causing destruction, yeah we shouldn't stoop to their level. Will a few bad apples do it? Maybe so, but i don't see full fledged riots and tearing down statues and all that, and i'd be a bit ashamed if there are.

Jopeal · 11-12-2020, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Don't care. I'm looking forward to Trump being a complete tool for the next 4 years. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. Many republicans are tired of the BS from Dems the last 4 years. The 2016 transition was the worst I have seen in my lifetime. IE #notmypresident. It was like he never actually won and Dems never really accepted it. I honestly believe if they would have just accepted Trump as president and tried to actually work with him at all instead of against him for 4 years Trump would have been more gracious in defeat in 2020. Dems brought it on themselves. "You reap what you sow"

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Don't care. I'm not looking forward to this game playing out until the empire crumbles.
Many democrats are tired of the BS from Pubs the last 12 years. The 2020 transition is the worst I have seen in my lifetime. IE #notmypresident. It was like both Biden & Obama never actually won and Trump never really accepted it. I honestly believe if they would have just accepted Obama as president and tried to actually work with him at all instead of against him for 8 years Dems would have been more gracious in defeat in 2016. Pubs brought it on themselves. "You reap what you sow"

Astros19 · 11-12-2020, 08:30 PM

How many terms are we allowed to go back?
Warning, I'm older than a lot of you.

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Jopeal · 11-12-2020, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

How many terms are we allowed to go back?
Warning, I'm older than a lot of you.

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If you can connect the dots properly, the Civil War is fair game.
The Revolutionary War seems too ambitious.

ballhawkdawk · 11-12-2020, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

How many terms are we allowed to go back?
Warning, I'm older than a lot of you.

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I'm honestly surprised arthritis hasn't taken away your ability to type. Does your nurse post for you?

Astros19 · 11-12-2020, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I'm honestly surprised arthritis hasn't taken away your ability to type. Does your nurse post for you?

She's much too busy for such nonsense.
I ain't that damn old!

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Onepocketj · 11-12-2020, 08:48 PM

So Trump is what, 0-16 now in lawsuits?
Plus Arizona found no evidence of fraudulent voting and the judge threw out his libel lawsuit against CNN.
He's doing really well...

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Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
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Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 21,957 jeflave-0 onepocketj	So Trump is what, 0-16 now in lawsuits? Plus Arizona found no evidence of fraudulent voting and the judge threw out his libel lawsuit against CNN. He's doing really well...