Topps Living Set - Page 243

ThoseBackPages · 07-14-2018, 11:00 AM

Third Party Grading

smanzari · 07-14-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

BGS has proven they cannot compete in the Registry game

that game is over

if you think a new company can come into the TPG game and catch up, good luck.

BGS will fold before PSA will be defeated. Case closed

I'm curious to what's coming with the registry updates at SGC- I've been actually holding my set to wait and see (well, that and current wait times- I actually thumb through this set often and would miss it at current wait times!). I think there's a small chance that they could give PSA's some good competition...

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Originally Posted by bigsmooth

What’s TPG?

Third Party Grader

bigsmooth · 07-14-2018, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Third Party Grading

Never heard of that one.

bigsmooth · 07-14-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smanzari

I'm curious to what's coming with the registry updates at SGC- I've been actually holding my set to wait and see (well, that and current wait times- I actually thumb through this set often and would miss it at current wait times!). I think there's a small chance that they could give PSA's some good competition...

Third Party Grader

I would wait until Nationals are over. SGC will be changing their label design, ditching the 1-100 scoring system and adding 9.5 grade as well to be an in between of PSA and BGS.

Ferg1945 · 07-15-2018, 07:02 AM

Anyone go to Fan Fest? I'd love to see what kind of display topps did for The Living Set. Is it just a board with picture of a few cards... Do they have the complete set up til now on display?

Share some pictures!

kpete42 · 07-15-2018, 09:16 AM

Living cards #46-51 arrived in the mail yesterday. All in perfect condition. I think whatever changes they made in the stock are going to end up making non-10 PSA’s the rarer card as opposed to actual 10’s. Haha.

kpete42 · 07-15-2018, 09:17 AM

Btw, the Aaron #46 is probably my favorite of the set thus far. Looks freaking sweet in person.

TarjetasBéisbol · 07-15-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kpete42

Living cards #46-51 arrived in the mail yesterday. All in perfect condition. I think whatever changes they made in the stock are going to end up making non-10 PSA’s the rarer card as opposed to actual 10’s. Haha.

What changes do you think they made in the card stock? I have been purchasing 3 sets from day one and didn't notice any difference at all.

TwinsJake · 07-15-2018, 10:23 AM

There's still a lot of the old stock going out. Using up what is left? Because I open one case and it's all perfect. Open the next and immediately can tell the difference between the two. I would imagine that soon we will only see this new one. Just speculation on what I see.

Centering is still an issue. Unfortunately in my opinion 'most' of these badly centered cards don't bring down the overall quality of the card enough to return when the nameplate is perfect.

bigsmooth · 07-15-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsJake

There's still a lot of the old stock going out. Using up what is left? Because I open one case and it's all perfect. Open the next and immediately can tell the difference between the two. I would imagine that soon we will only see this new one. Just speculation on what I see.

Centering is still an issue. Unfortunately in my opinion 'most' of these badly centered cards don't bring down the overall quality of the card enough to return when the nameplate is perfect.

Have you seen any of the old stock on players after Soto? I noticed right away when I got that week’s release the stock was different. Still waiting on the Hank Aaron week.

TwinsJake · 07-15-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsmooth

Have you seen any of the old stock on players after Soto? I noticed right away when I got that week’s release the stock was different. Still waiting on the Hank Aaron week.

Yes. I am going through some Aaron right now, they arrived the same day. Definitely a mixture in here.

mwheeler27 · 07-15-2018, 10:58 AM

I can’t help but think all these perfect cards hurt the set at least a little. I’d prefer PSA 10s to be a bit rarer.

I will guess that before long, good looking raw examples will sell for close to the same as gem 10s.

ThoseBackPages · 07-15-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I can’t help but think all these perfect cards hurt the set at least a little. I’d prefer PSA 10s to be a bit rarer.

I will guess that before long, good looking raw examples will sell for close to the same as gem 10s.

hurt? if you mean money, then probably

if you mean collecting, nope

tribefan26 · 07-15-2018, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

hurt? if you mean money, then probably

if you mean collecting, nope

I'll never grade these - I'm committing the heresy of carefully placing them in 9 pocket pages so they can viewed three sets at a time. I insert the cards carefully, open the binders gently and store the binders carefully. I figure the binders I use will hold 4 years at a time.

mwheeler27 · 07-15-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

hurt? if you mean money, then probably

if you mean collecting, nope

I actually mean both.

Flippers buy to sell for more money.

Collectors, in some instances or more, “collect” what they perceive to have value, and/or what they think will grow in value.

If pop reports grow fast enough, perceived value could go down. Which I would guess could be a negative for both flippers and collectors.

Just an opinion.

Rhys Phillies · 07-15-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I can’t help but think all these perfect cards hurt the set at least a little. I’d prefer PSA 10s to be a bit rarer.

I will guess that before long, good looking raw examples will sell for close to the same as gem 10s.

I doubt that will happen. If the later weeks and going forward in PSA 10 condition sell for $50-$85, I think we should all be happy. Of course the first few weeks will continue to be big money.

TwinsJake · 07-15-2018, 05:32 PM

I'm not worried about it. I think it's great that conditions are improving so greatly. That's the key here.

mwheeler27 · 07-15-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhys Phillies

I doubt that will happen. If the later weeks and going forward in PSA 10 condition sell for $50-$85, I think we should all be happy. Of course the first few weeks will continue to be big money.

I completely agree...$50 to $80 going forward for Gem 10s would be great. I'm worried they're going to be less than that.

Today I saw a raw Gleyber Torres sell for $13.50 plus shipping. I saw a gem mint sale of only 3 times that, free shipping.

If raw are going for 1/3 of gems, I think there are too many gems out there.

I'm probably wrong. I hope I am. I like being wrong in these instances.
Otherwise I say, caveat emptor.

TwinsJake · 07-15-2018, 09:31 PM

Has anyone been right on anything yet about Living though? Besides this week with Scherzer, but that doesn't really count since it was confirmed.

mwheeler27 · 07-15-2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsJake

Has anyone been right on anything yet about Living though? Besides this week with Scherzer, but that doesn't really count since it was confirmed.

Probably only those of us that started buying during week 1?

Sefket · 07-15-2018, 11:43 PM

So I hear on this thread there are different card stocks now. Can someone please a picture of their old and new stocks? I’d like to see the differences.

tribefan26 · 07-15-2018, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sefket

So I hear on this thread there are different card stocks now. Can someone please a picture of their old and new stocks? I’d like to see the differences.

Go back one page to post 6039.

I have a similar reaction to the Soto cards.

Ferg1945 · 07-16-2018, 12:49 AM

Maybe we need a sticky thread with this info. Page 242 will get buried. If somoene can do it... here are some larger pictures.

Ohtani

Peacock

palmetto7 · 07-16-2018, 06:01 AM

Received my 20 Sotos. Id say 15 have a great shot at PSA 10s. The other 5 have very minor issues, a little surface issue, small blemish here or there, centering is great on all the cards. Pretty much zero ink issues. I wish it started with the quality of these cards.

smanzari · 07-16-2018, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Maybe we need a sticky thread with this info. Page 242 will get buried. If somoene can do it... here are some larger pictures.

I am working on a site/DB for TLS that I will definitely add this to.

So far, I have accounted for 2 Errors- The Morrow and the Jackie R.; are there any others I am missing?

Thanks!

07-14-2018, 11:00 AM	#6051
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07-15-2018, 07:02 AM	#6055
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	Anyone go to Fan Fest? I'd love to see what kind of display topps did for The Living Set. Is it just a board with picture of a few cards... Do they have the complete set up til now on display? Share some pictures!

07-15-2018, 09:16 AM	#6056
kpete42 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,798	Living cards #46-51 arrived in the mail yesterday. All in perfect condition. I think whatever changes they made in the stock are going to end up making non-10 PSA’s the rarer card as opposed to actual 10’s. Haha.

07-15-2018, 09:17 AM	#6057
kpete42 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,798	Btw, the Aaron #46 is probably my favorite of the set thus far. Looks freaking sweet in person.

07-15-2018, 10:23 AM	#6059
TwinsJake Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,640 TwinsJake	There's still a lot of the old stock going out. Using up what is left? Because I open one case and it's all perfect. Open the next and immediately can tell the difference between the two. I would imagine that soon we will only see this new one. Just speculation on what I see. Centering is still an issue. Unfortunately in my opinion 'most' of these badly centered cards don't bring down the overall quality of the card enough to return when the nameplate is perfect.

07-15-2018, 10:58 AM	#6062
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 18,419 mwheeler27 mwheeler27	I can’t help but think all these perfect cards hurt the set at least a little. I’d prefer PSA 10s to be a bit rarer. I will guess that before long, good looking raw examples will sell for close to the same as gem 10s.

07-15-2018, 05:32 PM	#6067
TwinsJake Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,640 TwinsJake	I'm not worried about it. I think it's great that conditions are improving so greatly. That's the key here.

07-15-2018, 09:31 PM	#6069
TwinsJake Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,640 TwinsJake	Has anyone been right on anything yet about Living though? Besides this week with Scherzer, but that doesn't really count since it was confirmed.

07-15-2018, 11:43 PM	#6071
Sefket Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 67	So I hear on this thread there are different card stocks now. Can someone please a picture of their old and new stocks? I’d like to see the differences.

07-16-2018, 12:49 AM	#6073
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	Maybe we need a sticky thread with this info. Page 242 will get buried. If somoene can do it... here are some larger pictures. Ohtani Peacock

07-16-2018, 06:01 AM	#6074
palmetto7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,429	Received my 20 Sotos. Id say 15 have a great shot at PSA 10s. The other 5 have very minor issues, a little surface issue, small blemish here or there, centering is great on all the cards. Pretty much zero ink issues. I wish it started with the quality of these cards.