2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2401

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Do you happen to have a link because i cant find what you are talking about

I'll find it.

This was another one that was thrown out. "After a Republican witness said, without providing evidence, that he did not know whether a pile of 53 ballots were received on time." Sounds conclusive to me.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1621163.html

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Do you happen to have a link because i cant find what you are talking about

Here you go.
A Michigan judge’s dismissal of a lawsuit filed by President Trump’s campaign was made public on Friday, saying a “vague and equivocal” sticky note was insufficient evidence of ballot-tampering by poll workers.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/michig...vague-hearsay/

Chris Lyle · 11-07-2020, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I'll find it.

This was another one that was thrown out. "After a Republican witness said, without providing evidence, that he did not know whether a pile of 53 ballots were received on time." Sounds conclusive to me.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1621163.html

Im sorry i was googling and looking based on your comment about an unsigned post it note. And yes in this case there was no evidence and it was thrown out. The system works and doesnt mean that every case will be that easy to throw out and maybe will be we just dont know.

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Im sorry i was googling and looking based on your comment about an unsigned post it note. And yes in this case there was no evidence and it was thrown out. The system works and doesnt mean that every case will be that easy to throw out and maybe will be we just dont know.

The post it note is the second link I gave.

Chris Lyle · 11-07-2020, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

The post it note is the second link I gave.

I was typing as you posted it.

Chris Lyle · 11-07-2020, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Here you go.
A Michigan judge’s dismissal of a lawsuit filed by President Trump’s campaign was made public on Friday, saying a “vague and equivocal” sticky note was insufficient evidence of ballot-tampering by poll workers.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/michig...vague-hearsay/

I will admit that is pretty lame and should not have been taken to any court and if this is the evidence for the other allegations like Jim Jordan was talking about today then they will all be thrown out and rightfully so

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I will admit that is pretty lame and should not have been taken to any court and if this is the evidence for the other allegations like Jim Jordan was talking about today then they will all be thrown out and rightfully so

I'm not a conspiracy guy. If there's fraud from either side I'd like it exposed. But I think everyone saw this coming months ago when he started fighting the mail in ballots. So far he's presented no evidence in the first three or four that have been thrown out. Maybe he's just waiting for something to stick.

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 02:08 AM

I like how there are reports that Trump is angry that the legal responses haven't been working and that they didn't seem properly prepared for the fights.

Uh...... how do you "prepare" to file lawsuits for instances of fraud that you expect to happen?

Don't you have to catch the fraud in the act and have evidence for it?

How do you prepare for that? You just have to find it and then boom, that's your evidence and use it when you file. The only way to "prepare" for that would be to be making fake evidence and having ready to go.

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

I like how there are reports that Trump is angry that the legal responses haven't been working and that they didn't seem properly prepared for the fights.

Uh...... how do you "prepare" to file lawsuits for instances of fraud that you expect to happen?

Don't you have to catch the fraud in the act and have evidence for it?

How do you prepare for that? You just have to find it and then boom, that's your evidence and use it when you file. The only way to "prepare" for that would be to be making fake evidence and having ready to go.

The reporters were all trying not to laugh talking about it right before Biden's speech. That's why I had to google it as well. They were just like ""they showed up to court with a post-it that said "they told me to change addresses" and it wasn't even signed by anyone..."" Hard to lose with rock solid evidence like that.

jdandns · 11-07-2020, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Final popular vote difference...Biden by 7 million?

7 on the low-end.
I think it will be closer to 8.

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I remember someone else talking about Americans wanting change.. Seems like an unoriginal thought from Biden

Do you live in a house that has no foundation?

Beyond that, Trump stole the MAGA slogan from the 1980 Reagan campaign, but unlike Ronnie, who knew how to shut up once in while, Reagan had the full 8 years to fall so far short. Only Trump could pack two terms' worth of abject failure into just one.

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Chris Lyle · 11-07-2020, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

7 on the low-end.
I think it will be closer to 8.

Do you live in a house that has no foundation?

Beyond that, Trump stole the MAGA slogan from the 1980 Reagan campaign, but unlike Ronnie, who knew how to shut up once in while, Reagan had the full 8 years to fall so far short. Only Trump could pack two terms' worth of abject failure into just one.

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I dont know what you mean. Im sorry for having a little fun with the unoriginal comment.

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

The reporters were all trying not to laugh talking about it right before Biden's speech. That's why I had to google it as well. They were just like ""they showed up to court with a post-it that said "they told me to change addresses" and it wasn't even signed by anyone..."" Hard to lose with rock solid evidence like that.

Right, that's pathetic and proved they just filed a suit with no evidence to back it up, but that doesn't mean they didn't prepare for it. They probably prepared for the type of cases they could file, but without the proper evidence, there really isn't anything you can do.

Which is why Trump being upset at the lack of preparation to me is hilarious, because there really isn't way for lawyers to be prepared ahead of time, they have to just roll with what evidence is provided to them, not having evidence isn't a sign of poor preparation, it's just a sign of there not being fraud.

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Final popular vote difference...Biden by 7 million?

Well California is still at only 77% reported, so there's likely to be about a 2 million vote advantage for Biden there alone and the popular vote is at 4 million overall right now.

So you're looking at about 6 million vote lead with the rest of the country other than California to add to it.

Onepocketj · 11-07-2020, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

Right, that's pathetic and proved they just filed a suit with no evidence to back it up, but that doesn't mean they didn't prepare for it. They probably prepared for the type of cases they could file, but without the proper evidence, there really isn't anything you can do.

Which is why Trump being upset at the lack of preparation to me is hilarious, because there really isn't way for lawyers to be prepared ahead of time, they have to just roll with what evidence is provided to them, not having evidence isn't a sign of poor preparation, it's just a sign of there not being fraud.

Trump reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar when he says "I object your honor!"
The judge asks "On what grounds?" and Jim Carrey says "Because it's devastating to my case!"

He doesn't know how to get rid of all those votes. He just wants them gone.

jdandns · 11-07-2020, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I dont know what you mean. Im sorry for having a little fun with the unoriginal comment.

No need to apologize. I meant that Biden was an integral part of that "Hope and Change" Obama administration.
None of its intellectual properties are off-limits to Joe.

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

I like how there are reports that Trump is angry that the legal responses haven't been working and that they didn't seem properly prepared for the fights.

Uh...... how do you "prepare" to file lawsuits for instances of fraud that you expect to happen?

Don't you have to catch the fraud in the act and have evidence for it?

How do you prepare for that? You just have to find it and then boom, that's your evidence and use it when you file. The only way to "prepare" for that would be to be making fake evidence and having ready to go.

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I will admit that is pretty lame and should not have been taken to any court and if this is the evidence for the other allegations like Jim Jordan was talking about today then they will all be thrown out and rightfully so

Just that they've had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to run Jordan out for this gambit speaks to the dire state of things in Trumpland at this late hour.

The Gym Jordan Rules:

When there are credible allegations against you, get on the phone with one of the students you failed to protect and weep as you beg them to lie for you.

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2020/...use-ohio-state

When you yourself are advancing spurious allegations, simply let your glasses slide down your nose and yell louder into the microphone.

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Trump reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar when he says "I object your honor!"
The judge asks "On what grounds?" and Jim Carrey says "Because it's devastating to my case!"

He doesn't know how to get rid of all those votes. He just wants them gone.

This had me laughing pretty hard, that's great!

GOWIFB · 11-07-2020, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Trump reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar when he says "I object your honor!"
The judge asks "On what grounds?" and Jim Carrey says "Because it's devastating to my case!"

He doesn't know how to get rid of all those votes. He just wants them gone.

lol this is excellent

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 02:52 AM

I wish i knew how to edit videos and to put Rudy's face on Carrey, would be a hit on the twitter machine hahaha

duwal · 11-07-2020, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Trump reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar when he says "I object your honor!"
The judge asks "On what grounds?" and Jim Carrey says "Because it's devastating to my case!"

He doesn't know how to get rid of all those votes. He just wants them gone.

now we just need him to say

cypher · 11-07-2020, 03:51 AM

I thought this thread would cover both sides but clearly it's another echo chamber. Massive voter fraud this year.

zonacats8 · 11-07-2020, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cypher

I thought this thread would cover both sides but clearly it's another echo chamber. Massive voter fraud this year.

lol

I love the few people in here who actually believe there is massive voter fraud, at least there have been plenty of Trump voters who have had no issue to say that there hasn't been and Biden won fairly.

jdandns · 11-07-2020, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cypher

I thought this thread would cover both sides but clearly it's another echo chamber. Massive voter fraud this year.

How many votes do you think Trump stole this time around?

Brobocop · 11-07-2020, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cypher

I thought this thread would cover both sides but clearly it's another echo chamber. Massive voter fraud this year.

People like evidence, where is the evidence of fraud? Also, it’s laughable to call this thread an echo chamber.

JustRachel · 11-07-2020, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

You're right and dont know if its all true but to automatically discount it as him be a sore loser I don't think is right either?

At this point, it is right.

These are baseless allegations. There has been no meaningful evidence presented by anyone, anywhere.

That alone makes it correct to discount whatever nonsense this is. If some actual meaningful evidence is presented, then it will certainly be worth a look. But until then, it's nonsense worthy of being discounted fully.

Astros19 · 11-07-2020, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

So all the Trump haters are obviously afraid of what he might do in his last couple months as President if he knows he has limited time and no repercussions.

But it just hit me, if he has any interest in actually running again in 2024, then he can't do anything wild in those last few months or it would really come back to bite him in 2024. I've seen people question if he'll give out terrible pardons, especially to family members, that he might just decide he's done with it and move to Mar a Lago with a week or two left, and many other things being thrown out there.

But I'd think any of those would really hurt him in a re-election, it would write the attacking ads for themselves.

However I also don't think Trump is someone to think about how his actions today will affect something 4 years from now, so it likely would't stop him from doing anything he wants at this point lol.

Trump would be 82 years old at the end of his term if he chose to run in 2024. Its already ridiculous to think that Biden will be 81 by the end of his term.
Let's be honest, anybody and everybody, including myself, is an idiot for voting for people that should have retired 15-20 years ago.

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11-07-2020, 02:08 AM	#60008
zonacats8 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 16,147	I like how there are reports that Trump is angry that the legal responses haven't been working and that they didn't seem properly prepared for the fights. Uh...... how do you "prepare" to file lawsuits for instances of fraud that you expect to happen? Don't you have to catch the fraud in the act and have evidence for it? How do you prepare for that? You just have to find it and then boom, that's your evidence and use it when you file. The only way to "prepare" for that would be to be making fake evidence and having ready to go. __________________ PC: Carolina Panthers and University of Arizona players, especially in UofA uniform Jonathan Stewart PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/jonathan-stewart-pc Star Lotulelei PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/star-lotulelei-pc

11-07-2020, 02:52 AM	#60018
zonacats8 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 16,147	I wish i knew how to edit videos and to put Rudy's face on Carrey, would be a hit on the twitter machine hahaha __________________ PC: Carolina Panthers and University of Arizona players, especially in UofA uniform Jonathan Stewart PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/jonathan-stewart-pc Star Lotulelei PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/star-lotulelei-pc

11-07-2020, 03:51 AM	#60020
cypher Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 940	I thought this thread would cover both sides but clearly it's another echo chamber. Massive voter fraud this year.