Eloy Jimenez

[pewe]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

IMO I would take Atomic, Gold, Blue, Sapphire and even yellow paper over orange and green

I’m so confused... “atomic”... is that the same as sapphire?

Or are you talking Bowman’s best or bowman chrome #/100 autos?


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[BAHoopla]

Pretty sure majority of collectors know what atomic refers too....but lets all play a game of words

[BAHoopla]

Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

Nice, I’ll have to pick up a Topps Chrome Atomic

Lol...smh

[pewe]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Pretty sure majority of collectors know what atomic refers too....but lets all play a game of words

For Topps Chrome I don’t... only atomic/cracked ice variations I know are in sapphire edition or bowman products


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[BAHoopla]

Who said I was talking topps chrome....I said color or variations I choose over orange and green chrome....is there a yellow chrome. And what is cracked ice ?- That is panini

Guess I should go buy cracked ice chrome...lol

[pewe]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Who said I was talking topps chrome....I said color or variations I choose over orange and green chrome....is there a yellow chrome. And what is cracked ice ?- That is panini

Guess I should go buy cracked ice chrome...lol

Ahhh... so specifically you only mean Bowman products, but scoff at Sapphire and Panini emulating “Atomic”, but not calling it such


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[BAHoopla]

Guess I am in the minority in think an bowman best atomic auto card is nicer than an orange chrome card and can you point out where I scoff at sapphire or panini, especially when I list sapphire as a preference over orange and only refer to panini as I believe the card name cracked ice refers to their cards and not topps cards

[pewe]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Guess I am in the minority in think an bowman best atomic auto card is nicer than an orange chrome card and can you point out where I scoff at sapphire or panini, especially when I list sapphire as a preference over orange and only refer to panini as I believe the card name cracked ice refers to their cards and not topps cards

I jest I jest

Bowman Chrome Atomic Auto #/100 and Bowman’s Best Atomic (base and auto) are awesome!!! I have no eloys, but do have them in several other players


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[thenwhatjk]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Guess I am in the minority in think an bowman best atomic auto card is nicer than an orange chrome card and can you point out where I scoff at sapphire or panini, especially when I list sapphire as a preference over orange and only refer to panini as I believe the card name cracked ice refers to their cards and not topps cards

You are absolutely in the minority but you gotta collect what you like!

[BAHoopla]

Originally Posted by pewe

I jest I jest

Bowman Chrome Atomic Auto #/100 and Bowman’s Best Atomic (base and auto) are awesome!!! I have no eloys, but do have them in several other players


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All good

[pewe]

Quiet at the plate a few days and folks stop posting

Hope this spruces up the conversation a bit!






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[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by pewe

Quiet at the plate a few days and folks stop posting

Hope this spruces is the conversation a bit!






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You did it! 3 nice cards = 3 run HR!

[pewe]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

You did it! 3 nice cards = 3 run HR!

Haha!!! Sometimes he just needs to know we believe in him


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[pewe]

And a great 2 for 4 night! Hope this unleashes him again


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[LittleJimmies]

I really think Eloy's happy go lucky personality can lead to prolonged spells of being unfocused. I'd put his hitting skills up against anyone in baseball, but he just doesn't have an ounce of killer instinct in him. Real catch-22 because his personality is what makes him such an awesome player to root for (hi mom), but it's also what will hold him back from reaching his potential. Watching a guy have a great time and be a great teammate while effortlessly putting up 0.900 OPS seasons won't be so bad, but I can't help but wonder what if.

[neumz16]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

I really think Eloy's happy go lucky personality can lead to prolonged spells of being unfocused. I'd put his hitting skills up against anyone in baseball, but he just doesn't have an ounce of killer instinct in him. Real catch-22 because his personality is what makes him such an awesome player to root for (hi mom), but it's also what will hold him back from reaching his potential. Watching a guy have a great time and be a great teammate while effortlessly putting up 0.900 OPS seasons won't be so bad, but I can't help but wonder what if.

I respectfully disagree. Anyone who's played a lick of baseball knows you're focused 99% of the time when playing. I'm just concerned he's gunna be Jermaine Dye. Good career but forgettable...but I hope not

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[neumz16]

The heritage rc mini is 100/100. He just landed in my lap more than tatis last year. Won't complain though haha

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[rj.cataldo]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

I really think Eloy's happy go lucky personality can lead to prolonged spells of being unfocused. I'd put his hitting skills up against anyone in baseball, but he just doesn't have an ounce of killer instinct in him. Real catch-22 because his personality is what makes him such an awesome player to root for (hi mom), but it's also what will hold him back from reaching his potential. Watching a guy have a great time and be a great teammate while effortlessly putting up 0.900 OPS seasons won't be so bad, but I can't help but wonder what if.

I disagree. He has a tendency to be lackadaisical in the OF, but I’ve never doubted his work ethic. And when he gets in that box he is LOCKED in. No smiles or joking, he looks focused. I’ve watched ever Sox game this year, and most last year - does he have bad at bats? Of course. He swings at bad pitches, but I put that more on youth than lack of killer instinct.

I don’t really understand how killer instinct applies in baseball. It’s not like taking the ball in your hands at the end of a game to hit a buzzer beater. I think Eloy (and most of them is team) has demonstrated the ability to come up with key hits when needed most, which is as close to killer instinct as you can get in baseball IMO.


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[HarryLime]

Manny Ramirez had a pretty outstanding career while being a ho-hum all-smiles kind of guy.

Arthur

[pewe]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

Manny Ramirez had a pretty outstanding career while being a ho-hum all-smiles kind of guy.

Arthur

I guess KGJ would have been a lot better player had he been more serious...




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[LVDan]

Yeah, “killer instinct” isn’t really a prerequisite for being a great hitter. I’d argue that a relaxed, consistent approach over 600abs is a much bigger factor. Somehow I’d guess that trying harder would only make an already tough task near impossible.


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[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Yeah, “killer instinct” isn’t really a prerequisite for being a great hitter. I’d argue that a relaxed, consistent approach over 600abs is a much bigger factor. Somehow I’d guess that trying harder would only make an already tough task near impossible.


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Pete Rose had a killer instinct...most feared batter in history.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Pete Rose had a killer instinct...most feared batter in history.

Pete was a different kind of animal no doubt. Most feared? I’m not sure about that. Maybe with a guy on 2nd in a close game. Pretty sure Bondsroid was by far the most feared hitter I’ve seen. For good reason.


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[LittleJimmies]

Killer instinct doesn't have to mean not having fun or being a jerk on the field. I look at it as being totally locked in and trying to win the battle on every single play/pitch.
Eloy has natural bat to ball and batting eye skills better than 99% of professional hitters, yet he is dead last on the White Sox in pitches seen per plate appearence. He obviously isn't joking around at the plate, but I do believe he isn't as locked in as he could be.

[rj.cataldo]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Killer instinct doesn't have to mean not having fun or being a jerk on the field. I look at it as being totally locked in and trying to win the battle on every single play/pitch.
Eloy has natural bat to ball and batting eye skills better than 99% of professional hitters, yet he is dead last on the White Sox in pitches seen per plate appearence. He obviously isn't joking around at the plate, but I do believe he isn't as locked in as he could be.

Fair point, but I again attribute that to both youth, and to the fact that Eloy can do more with bad pitches then most players in the league. His homer last night wasn't a "mistake" it was a fairly decent pitch, but he got around on it quick and hit it hard. There just arern't too many guys that can do that, and that probably leads to Eloy swinging at less than ideal pitches. I think he will get better with time - same with Robert.