OFFICIAL: Warriors (1) vs. Spurs (2) WCF Thread

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I still admit that they know more about basketball than anyone on these boards no matter what crazy things they say sometimes.

Answer these simple two questions... you can do this yourself, you don't need to find what some NBA player thinks for you...

Did Kawhi's foot land behind where he took off?
Did Durants foot land ahead of where he took off?

I'll wait patiently for the answer.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Answer this simple question... you can do this yourself, you don't need to find what some NBA player thinks for you...

Did Kawhi's foot land behind where he took off?
Did Durants foot land ahead of where he took off?

I'll wait patiently for the answer.

Anyone can form fit a question to get the answer they are looking for.

Here is a better question. When Both Kawhi and Durant landed, was the other guys foot there in the landing spot? Yes or no?

If you watch the video LMA took a step forward and noticed he was gonna be short...so he took another step foward for good measure.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Anyone can form fit a question to get the answer they are looking for.

Here is a better question. When Both Kawhi and Durant landed, was the other guys foot there in the landing spot? Yes or no?

Lol exactly! He can answer this one too.

Where was Zaza looking when Kawhi landed?
Where was LA looking when Durant landed?


I think Durant summed it up perfectly in his press conference last night when asked about landing on LA's foot. He simply said big men are not used to guarding that far away from the basket and leaving space for a shooter isn't something that they do all the time or are trained to do.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Anyone can form fit a question to get the answer they are looking for.

Here is a better question. When Both Kawhi and Durant landed, was the other guys foot there in the landing spot? Yes or no?

If you watch the video LMA took a step forward and noticed he was gonna be short...so he took another step foward for good measure.

Lol, simple question. Did Durants foot move forward from where he jumped or backward. Easy question that even you can answer.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Lol, simple question. Did Durants foot move forward from where he jumped or backward. Easy question that even you can answer.

Neither of those two will answer your questions. You should know that by now.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Lol, simple question. Did Durants foot move forward from where he jumped or backward. Easy question that even you can answer.

His foot did move forward. Now answer my question, Did LMA takes 2 steps in? Did his foot move foward as well? I bet your rhetoric will be "it doesnt matter" because you know that LMA didnt even attempt to block the shot. His intention was to purely injure by stepping in looking for the landing. Thats why he moved it twice.

You seem to ignore the last 2 times I posted that. Then you sit here and demand an answer to your question. Like I said, you are forming your argumement by fixing questions that do nothing but take a single side.

LMA steps in 2 times to get the landing. Which means he wasnt even trying to defend. He was merely moving in as much as it took to break Durants ankle. Thats the plain and simple truth. It didnt work. Now you are upset because you dirty tactic didnt work out.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

His foot did move forward. Now answer my question, Did LMA takes 2 steps in? Did his foot move foward as well?

His foot moved about 2 inches, yes. Same exact way his foot moved the other day against Curry that got Mike Brown all upset. Next question... did his foot ever pass the point of which Durant jumped from?



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[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by pgisback

His foot moved about 2 inches, yes. Same exact way his foot moved the other day against Curry that got Mike Brown all upset. Next question... did his foot ever pass the point of which Durant jumped from?

It didnt need to. Here is exactly what he did...and watch the video.

Durant Jumps
LMA plants his foot
LMA looks to see where Durant will land
LMA takes another step to replant in position
Durant comes down on LMA shoe.

Why did he need to re adjust post shot. More importantly why did LMA adjust again if he wasnt even attempting to block the shot?

Answer: Because the intent of planting his foot so Durant would land on it was the only intention. There was no intention to block the shot.

The icing on the cake? When LMA turns around and skips back looking to see if a fight will break out. Why would any player have concerns of someone knocking him out if he didnt do anything wrong? He wouldnt. But he knows what he did hence why he skips back as if he is fearing for his life.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by pgisback

His foot moved about 2 inches, yes. Same exact way his foot moved the other day against Curry that got Mike Brown all upset. Next question... did his foot ever pass the point of which Durant jumped from?



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It moved twice. Why?

Again you didnt answre my question . Why did you ask me to answer yours if you are going to ignore mine?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

It didnt need to. Here is exactly what he did...and watch the video.

Durant Jumps
LMA plants his foot
LMA looks to see where Durant will land
LMA takes another step to replant in position
Durant comes down on LMA shoe.

Why did he need to re adjust post shot. More importantly why did LMA adjust again if he wasnt even attempting to block the shot?

Answer: Because the intent of planting his foot so Durant would land on it was the only intention. There was no intention to block the shot.

The icing on the cake? When LMA turns around and skips back looking to see if a fight will break out. Why would any player have concerns of someone knocking him out if he didnt do anything wrong? He wouldnt. But he knows what he did hence why he skips back as if he is fearing for his life.

Now you're just blatantly making stuff up. Aldridge is not looking at Durant's feet to see where he lands.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

It moved twice. Why?

Again you didnt answre my question . Why did you ask me to answer yours if you are going to ignore mine?

Same movement he had against curry. A little extra hitch. At no point does he ever get to the point of which Curry or Durant jumped from. Both Curry and Durant stuck out their legs at points ahead of where they jumped.

You guys can be a little honest with yourselves. One is jumping backwards and getting his back leg taken out while the other is jumping forward getting their forward leg contact. That's something you don't even need an NBA expert to verify for you. You can use your own eyes.

[pgisback]

And another reason why durant was fine was it wasn't his landing foot that was taken out. It was his front foot. If Aldridge wanted to be a goon like Zaza he would have taken out his back left foot there. That would have caused an ankle sprain since that's where all your weight is.

[Scottish Punk]

I don't think anybody can look at the second clip by Aldridge and not think it is a sly retaliation for Kawhi. The first one with Curry looks accidental since Curry initiated the contact by flailing his feet forward. The second Aldridge is exactly the same small hop,step,hitch whatever that Zaza did. If you posit that Aldridge is accidental and just an awkward big man closeout, than Zaza falls into the same category.

Hopefully, this is akin to each team hit a batter and now it is over and we can all move on.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Now you're just blatantly making stuff up. Aldridge is not looking at Durant's feet to see where he lands.

So why move twice? More over, why move IN twice? Whats the point of replanting if you're doing nothing to block?

Originally Posted by pgisback

Same movement he had against curry. A little extra hitch. At no point does he ever get to the point of which Curry or Durant jumped from. Both Curry and Durant stuck out their legs at points ahead of where they jumped.

You guys can be a little honest with yourselves. One is jumping backwards and getting his back leg taken out while the other is jumping forward getting their forward leg contact. That's something you don't even need an NBA expert to verify for you. You can use your own eyes.

Is jumping forward and backwards something that doesnt happen? Ive seen players kick forward and other players jump backwards. In both cases the man is in the air and the player is planting their feet down.

At this point what you are trying to say is Durant purposely jumped and moved forward looking to land on LMAs foot to injure himself? Oookay there! As if a players looks to break his own ankles. Ill take the mroe plausible stance that LMA moves in looking to break an ankle. You need to be honest with yourself. You need to get glasses and see the 2 step shuffle done by LMA to break Durant. Then watch him run scared back down the court as if he was guilty of something.

[Scottish Punk]

Let me just add. I don't think either case a player's intent was to injure and "take somebody out". It is more plausible, since neither was directly looking at their plant foot, that the intent was too over crowd the shooter, get in his space, and make him feel uncomfortable. That way you can say with a straight face, "I didn't intended to injure". Still bush league, but I don't think Zaza and LMA went into a huddle and said I am taking my guy out on the next play.

Option B: is there a both clumsy big men and it wasn't intentional.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

So why move twice? More over, why move IN twice? Whats the point of replanting if you're doing nothing to block?



Is jumping forward and backwards something that doesnt happen? Ive seen players kick forward and other players jump backwards. In both cases the man is in the air and the player is planting their feet down.

At this point what you are trying to say is Durant purposely jumped and moved forward looking to land on LMAs foot to injure himself? Oookay there! As if a players looks to break his own ankles. Ill take the mroe plausible stance that LMA moves in looking to break an ankle. You need to be honest with yourself. You need to get glasses and see the 2 step shuffle done by LMA to break Durant. Then watch him run scared back down the court as if he was guilty of something.

So what you're telling me is at no point did Lemarcus Aldridge's feet during his close out pass the point of which the shooter shot from... but Zaza was about 2 feet passed where Kawhi took off. That's all you needed to say. No need for the rest of the fluff.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by pgisback

I see you're going to ignore reality and continue to be unrealistic. Carry on...

wow pgisback------I like your insight on things, but your losing it here.


This was clear intent by Aldridge even more so than Zaza, and it's not even close....

[TBarn291]

Spurs trying to fight fire with fire sometimes to beat a dirty team you have to get a little bit dirty yourself

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

wow pgisback------I like your insight on things, but your losing it here.


This was clear intent by Aldridge even more so than Zaza, and it's not even close....

There's no intent to it whatsoever. He made the same exact movement when contesting Curry's shot. He doesn't even reach the point of where durant shot from. If you want to injure someone you do what Zaza did, not move your foot an inch.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

wow pgisback------I like your insight on things, but your losing it here.


This was clear intent by Aldridge even more so than Zaza, and it's not even close....

Agreed, we all know pgisback has said before that he hates the Warriors but for him to not see Aldridge try and gravitate his foot under where Durant lands is pretty ridiculous

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by duwal

Agreed, we all know pgisback has said before that he hates the Warriors but for him to not see Aldridge try and gravitate his foot under where Durant lands is pretty ridiculous

He rotates his heal like an inch, lol. If a player doesn't even extend their foot to the point the shooter shoots from, you can't cry foul. That's on the shooter for extending their foot. If you want to be a dirty goon trying to injure someone, you do what Zaza did.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by pgisback

There's no intent to it whatsoever. He made the same exact movement when contesting Curry's shot. He doesn't even reach the point of where durant shot from. If you want to injure someone you do what Zaza did, not move your foot an inch.

Look at the gif again of Aldridge on Durant. His first movement was an inch in front of the three point line and then he moves it again to be a few inches past the three point line

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by duwal

Look at the gif again of Aldridge on Durant. His first movement was an inch in front of the three point line and then he moves it again to be a few inches past the three point line

I've seen it plenty of times. It is a completely innocent move where it wasn't even Durant's planting foot. He does the exact same little hitch in the close out on Curry, never once getting to the point where the shooter takes off from. It was a gentle landing, lol. If you want to injure someone you do what Zaza did and get underneath their body and take out their plant foot, not little inch like movements of your gigantic foot.

[blackbears86]

I also heard there was a play involving Livingston? But he's not a superstar so nothing being said on that....

Did anyone see that play?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I also heard there was a play involving Livingston? But he's not a superstar so nothing being said on that....

Did anyone see that play?

Was it anything like this?



Or was it a soft play like the Aldridge one that Warriors are trying to use to justify their cheating goon play?