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View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump 44 53.66%
Joe Biden 38 46.34%
Trump Wins Florida 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Florida 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia 12 14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio 43 52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania 27 32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania 34 41.46%
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:20 AM   #58326
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Total and absolute clown show.

I see the quote. Georgia wide open if the number was 50,000 (now 46,500 after the first batch reported this morning).
On the surface, it looks like they just keep changing the number until they get a desired outcome.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:20 AM   #58327
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A small batch of votes (about 3,000) just reported in Georgia, broke Trump's way. We're at the point now where if the SOS in GA is telling the truth, Trump wins.

Stands Trump +18,000 votes and we're told less than 22,000 votes left to count.
CNN reported that there was 50k votes outstanding in Georgia.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:21 AM   #58328
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Total and absolute clown show.

I see the quote. Georgia wide open if the number was 50,000 (now 46,500 after the first batch reported this morning).
Wasn't Georgia a dumpster fire in 2018? My memory ain't what it used to be.

I'm really starting to think we should have Federal control of Federal elections AS LONG as we follow the Florida model.
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CNN reported that there was 50k votes outstanding in Georgia.
Might as well say 200k at this point.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:23 AM   #58330
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Wasn't Georgia a dumpster fire in 2018? My memory ain't what it used to be.

I'm really starting to think we should have Federal control of Federal elections AS LONG as we follow the Florida model.
Feels that way, but a bad idea. You can stuff it with partisans and make the process even worse.

Keep it on the state level but fix it. Florida has shown it can be done, let's work to do it. What we have goin' on right now can never ever ever happen again.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:23 AM   #58331
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You can’t just take out a whole state so it fits your narrative, the people are there. Their vote matters just as much as anyone else’s.
The Electoral College makes it pretty clear that their votes don't matter as much as everyone else's.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:23 AM   #58332
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SO a friend posted
"C'Mon AZ and NV do it for us"

I replied, "Should it be 1/2 of us?"

One of his ULTRA liberal friends, who buy the way suggests that MORE white women voted for Trump this time because they were forced to by their male significant others, replies to me with.....

" Just because Republicans are currently too brainwashed or ignorant to know their candidate plans to end democracy, doesn’t mean they deserve to have it happen. The people capable of critical thinking need to protect everyone, including the ignorant."

I replied with
Statements like yours are what got the Orange Moron elected in the 1st place. Looking down on people and behaving like you are better than people.

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Old 11-05-2020, 09:25 AM   #58333
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I hope they live stream Hunter Biden's victory party. As the kids say, it will be lit.
I can't wait for Trump's twitter timeline
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:26 AM   #58334
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They are communicating with each other in an echo chamber. That's the problem.
Bingo. I used to have friends of all stripes on Facebook but many of the ones of opposite political persuasion opted to excommunicate leaving both end with the echo chamber. I've always believed it's healthy to be exposed to a diversity of ideas.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:29 AM   #58335
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Early report says the Trump campaign is filing a lawsuit alleging 10,000 votes were counted by people who lived out of state.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:31 AM   #58336
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It's fully possible that a 270-268 expected vote, swings 268-270 in the opposite direction with faithless electors.

Imagine that insanity.

Meanwhile, a hearty batch of Covid cases and 750,000 new unemployment filings came in...no matter who wins, celebration is not in order.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:32 AM   #58337
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is there a chance for a recount in AZ?

what happens if it ends up 269-269?
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:33 AM   #58338
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is there a chance for a recount in AZ?

what happens if it ends up 269-269?
This would be the most 2020 thing ever
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:36 AM   #58339
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is there a chance for a recount in AZ?

what happens if it ends up 269-269?
Have to wait for them to count first! Will be days before they're finished they said.

And 269-269; Trump wins. The election kicks back to the State houses of all 50 states, and each state casts a vote. Based on the results of the election, there will be 27 State Republican Houses and 23 State Democratic Houses. So the votes will go to Trump.

(They pick the VP the same way, but with Senate Houses, and those too are Republican majority in the US).
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It's fully possible that a 270-268 expected vote, swings 268-270 in the opposite direction with faithless electors.

Imagine that insanity.

Meanwhile, a hearty batch of Covid cases and 750,000 new unemployment filings came in...no matter who wins, celebration is not in order.
Chaos and cities burning are though!!
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Chaos and cities burning are though!!
646 arrests last night around Minneapolis
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:41 AM   #58342
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Chap correct me if I’m wrong, but all the %’s of votes remaining is a straight guess. They don’t have a real # they are just modeling and projecting.
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And every one of them verified Democrats!

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Betting markets keep heading towards Biden. Betfair Exchange has Biden at 86% to win, Trump at 14%. The odds of Biden getting all of AZ / NV / GA / PA to reach 306 in the EC are around 30%.
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It's fully possible that a 270-268 expected vote, swings 268-270 in the opposite direction with faithless electors.

Imagine that insanity.

Meanwhile, a hearty batch of Covid cases and 750,000 new unemployment filings came in...no matter who wins, celebration is not in order.
COVID is a thing still?
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Chap correct me if I’m wrong, but all the %’s of votes remaining is a straight guess. They don’t have a real # they are just modeling and projecting.
Correct. It's a guessing game. When you search the map, you'll find states where you think there's still 4% - 7% of the vote out ... but they're 100% counted. The modeling is imperfect. For example, Philly just dumped 20k votes and the model changed from 70% in to 81% in. Amazing shift in Trump's direction because they expect a lot fewer votes in Philly now than before.

There is no real number. They just keep adding until the Secretary of State says they're done.
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Betting markets keep heading towards Biden. Betfair Exchange has Biden at 86% to win, Trump at 14%. The odds of Biden getting all of AZ / NV / GA / PA to reach 306 in the EC are around 30%.
Biden a heavy fav now because of PA. It seems Biden is likely to win PA now
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COVID is a thing still?
Wait for the coming shutdowns by idiots like Gov Wolf here in PA again.
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It's fully possible that a 270-268 expected vote, swings 268-270 in the opposite direction with faithless electors.

Imagine that insanity.

Meanwhile, a hearty batch of Covid cases and 750,000 new unemployment filings came in...no matter who wins, celebration is not in order.
That would be absolutely chaos. The fact that not all states (some do) don’t have laws in place to prevent this from a couple narcissists that think what they think is more important than the whole state, is bad

No matter who wins, we all need to root for a Bare minimum of 280 to help protect against this. 275 is probably fine but let’s be safe with 280
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