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[tacoma34]

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Yes I own a car. Car insurance is required so I pay it willingly. Yes I own a home. Home owners insurance is required so I pay it willingly. I am covered medically however I do not use it and it costs me money. I should not be required to pay for something I never use or pay a fine to the government. Do you understand the difference? I am sure you don't and that's OK. Like I said, fundamental differences in opinion play a role in this debate.

There isn't a difference. If you want to own a home you are required to have homeowners insurance. If you want to own a car you are required to have car insurance. If you choose not to there isn't a "fine", but there is a penalty, which would be you not owning said car or home.

Actually, in the case of the car there is a fine to be paid if you're pulled over while driving.

I'd venture to guess you use your medical insurance more often than your car/homeowners. At least I would hope so. Either you're not going to the doctor enough or you have awful luck driving...

Now it's just that if you want to live in this country you are required to have health insurance.

Again, like you said, you could choose not to own a house or a car. Same way you could choose to move to another country. They truly are all one in the same...

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Why is that?

Stop it......... it's hard to resist.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

There isn't a difference. If you want to own a home you are required to have homeowners insurance. If you want to own a car you are required to have car insurance. If you choose not to there isn't a "fine", but there is a penalty, which would be you not owning said car or home.

Actually, in the case of the car there is a fine to be paid if you're pulled over while driving.

I'd venture to guess you use your medical insurance more often than your car/homeowners. At least I would hope so. Either you're not going to the doctor enough or you have awful luck driving...

Now it's just that if you want to live in this country you are required to have health insurance.

Again, like you said, you could choose not to own a house or a car. Same way you could choose to move to another country. They truly are all one in the same...

For the last time. I want to own a car so I pay insurance. I want to own a home so I pay insurance. I do not want medical insurance. I no longer have that option but I am forced to pay a fine.Simple enough break down for you?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

There isn't a difference. If you want to own a home you are required to have homeowners insurance. If you want to own a car you are required to have car insurance. If you choose not to there isn't a "fine", but there is a penalty, which would be you not owning said car or home.

Actually, in the case of the car there is a fine to be paid if you're pulled over while driving.

I'd venture to guess you use your medical insurance more often than your car/homeowners. At least I would hope so. Either you're not going to the doctor enough or you have awful luck driving...

Now it's just that if you want to live in this country you are required to have health insurance.

Again, like you said, you could choose not to own a house or a car. Same way you could choose to move to another country. They truly are all one in the same...

Homeowners insurance is not required by law. A mortgage lender may require if you have a loan. Otherwise, not required.

Car insurance IS required. Why? For the benefit of the OTHER driver. Who wants the non violent drug addict smashing into their 50k car and drug addict has no insurance?

Health insurance should not be required by law. Plain and simple.

[natbornkiller]

if health care is a right , then when is an fetus entitled to this right

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Stop it......... it's hard to resist.

You're such a cutie.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

You're such a cutie.

You have called alot of us "cuties". Addison calls us cupcakes.

Not sure which I prefer.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

if health care is a right , then when is an fetus entitled to this right

Rights are for people.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

For the last time. I want to own a car so I pay insurance. I want to own a home so I pay insurance. I do not want medical insurance. I no longer have that option but I am forced to pay a fine.Simple enough break down for you?

Strange world indeed where people value their cars and homes more than they value themselves. I'm glad you haven't needed health insurance, but if you ever do need it, you'll be glad you have it. Not having it when or if something catastrophic occurred could've ended up costing you that house and that car, the same way you could've lost your house or car were they not covered, and something bad happened to one or both of them.

But take heart, Ray, the Democrats are working on a way for you to have health insurance without having to pay for it at all, utilizing our government's ability to make a wise investment in our most important resource of all, our people (and before anyone comes in with cost to the taxpayer, I'll just say I'd rather have Ray and the entire Ray family covered with that money than see it used to buy another bag of screws for a Stealth Bomber.)

Get aboard, everyone!

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

You have called alot of us "cuties". Addison calls us cupcakes.

Not sure which I prefer.

Cupcakes are soft.

Cuties are passive aggressive people.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

-You are forced to purchase car insurance if you have a car.
-You are forced to purchase homeowners insurance if you have a home.
-You are forced to purchase renters insurance if you rent.

What is the difference?

Not sure where you live but I never heard of someone being forced to have insurance if they rent.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

For the last time. I want to own a car so I pay insurance. I want to own a home so I pay insurance. I do not want medical insurance. I no longer have that option but I am forced to pay a fine.Simple enough break down for you?

Are your kids in public school?

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Strange world indeed where people value their cars and homes more than they value themselves. I'm glad you haven't needed health insurance, but if you ever do need it, you'll be glad you have it. Not having it when or if something catastrophic occurred could've ended up costing you that house and that car, the same way you could've lost your house or car were they not covered, and something bad happened to one or both of them.

But take heart, Ray, the Democrats are working on a way for you to have health insurance without having to pay for it at all, utilizing our government's ability to make a wise investment in our most important resource of all, our people (and before anyone comes in with cost to the taxpayer, I'll just say I'd rather have Ray and the entire Ray family covered with that money than see it used to buy another bag of screws for a Stealth Bomber.)

Get aboard, everyone!

Healthcare should not ever, under any circumstances, be free for anyone. But god bless those Democrats for utilizing my tax dollars better than I could have ever dreamed in an attempt to create a perfect oasis here on Earth.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Strange world indeed where people value their cars and homes more than they value themselves. I'm glad you haven't needed health insurance, but if you ever do need it, you'll be glad you have it. Not having it when or if something catastrophic occurred could've ended up costing you that house and that car, the same way you could've lost your house or car were they not covered, and something bad happened to one or both of them.

But take heart, Ray, the Democrats are working on a way for you to have health insurance without having to pay for it at all, utilizing our government's ability to make a wise investment in our most important resource of all, our people (and before anyone comes in with cost to the taxpayer, I'll just say I'd rather have Ray and the entire Ray family covered with that money than see it used to buy another bag of screws for a Stealth Bomber.)

Get aboard, everyone!

You are living proof that some people will believe anything if it fits their narrative.

Obamacare had nothing to do with healthcare for the uninsured. The government could have simply decided to pay for healthcare for these people. Obamacare is very expensive accident insurance where one trip to the hospital can have a working class family teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Obamacare has more pork and greed than any Republican could have dreamed up. There is no mechanism to deliver the $2,500 per family that Obama promised. The manufacturer of the Epipen is allowed to carry out disgusting price gouging. America got totally screwed with Obamacare because the doctors, lawyers, insurance comapnies, drug makers and more continue to get rich on the backs of the American people. The paid off politicians turn their back and continue to peddle their product like they are personally doing Americans a favor.

We are not in a position where we can trust our politicians to fix this mess.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by chezball

Not sure where you live but I never heard of someone being forced to have insurance if they rent.

While its not forced who in their right mind would not want to insure their personal items from damage/fire/theft/etc. especially if they are collectors like most of us are on here

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

For the last time. I want to own a car so I pay insurance. I want to own a home so I pay insurance. I do not want medical insurance. I no longer have that option but I am forced to pay a fine.Simple enough break down for you?

And you want to live in this country so you pay medical. Like the 2 examples above, you could choose to live elsewhere. You want something so you abide by the rules.

My point is instead of fighting against strictly the Heath insurance mandates, why not also fight against the requirements for car insurance and homeowners. At least then in my eyes you'd then come across evenly in your resentment for being forced to purchase something. That's all.

And cruiser is right, but a house outright and poof no homeowners insurance. Unfortunately you'd have to buy it outright and for the majority of this country you'd have to save for a long period of time in which case you'd be renting and be forced to purchase renters insurance.

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by duwal

While its not forced who in their right mind would not want to insure their personal items from damage/fire/theft/etc. especially if they are collectors like most of us are on here

Very true, but not the point. It's not mandated like someone tried to claim.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by duwal

While its not forced who in their right mind would not want to insure their personal items from damage/fire/theft/etc. especially if they are collectors like most of us are on here

Renting in Austin, TX it is 100% required. You can't get an apartment/condo without it. They won't even give you your keys until you submit the policy.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

You want something so you abide by the rules.

On the contrary, in this instance, I do not want something but am "forced" to play by the rules.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

On the contrary, in this instance, I do not want something but am "forced" to play by the rules.

Do you actually want car insurance and/or homeowners? Are you stating that if you weren't required to have them you would pay for them anyway?

If so, more power to you.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Do you actually want car insurance and/or homeowners? Are you stating that if you weren't required to have them you would pay for them anyway?

If so, more power to you.

I really wish I was on my laptop instead of a phone so I could post a gif of a hamster running around his wheel.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I really wish I was on my laptop instead of a phone so I could post a gif of a hamster running around his wheel.

Well, I can envision it so is that good enough?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I really wish I was on my laptop instead of a phone so I could post a gif of a hamster running around his wheel.

Here you go.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Well, I can envision it so is that good enough?

Would have sufficed but......

Originally Posted by chezball

Here you go.

Chez comes through in the clutch.