2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

"When 60 Minutes and Leslie Stahl are too tough for you, you ain't all that tough. If you gotta walk outta a 60 Minutes interview, then you aren't gonna stand up to a dictator" -President Obama

Says the man who had the media kissing his feet for 8 years.

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[BTownCards]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Exactly. Now we are getting somewhere.

We have established that presidents can bring people together during times of crisis. There is a long list of them that did it.

We have also established that lots of people either dislike Trump (boycotted inauguration) or don't trust him.

One plus one equals two here, folks.

Many presidents could've gotten us on the same page. Trump cannot, could not, has not. Hmm...maybe the problem is....

wait for it....

Trump!

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The man could literally prop you up as a great person and you know what the media would do ?

DESTROY your life, dredge up anything you have ever said and twist it to for their narrative.

The very people you thought you were verbally marching with would turn on you over night.

Get real, there is nothing he could say or do from before he was even president to bring the country together, we don’t want to be brought together or divided. More than half the people in the USA just want to be left alone and be able to go to work and spend time with OUR families and not have politics be everything we see on TV.

Admit it, the left is a skinny starving wild dog running around our neighborhood barking and tipping over trash cans. The Democratic Party will shed its skin after this and return back towards the center.

All of these minorities (politicians included) have been played by woke capitol used for monitory gains via commercials and everything else in regards to selling services and material.

The politicians are documented on social media with Anti white anti capitalist rhetoric that will not be forgotten by their peers in congress and senate.

You have just watched politicians and people disenfranchise themselves at a scale never seen before.

Thanks social media, you can censor us, but you should be deleting/censoring your own. Unless this is the plan all along....


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[cnewby]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Any idiot can read garbage and figure out which color it represents.



Because you made your decision before you have even read it depending on the poster. Like I said to you last month....you’re (<—-just for granmar cop cneedy) close minded. Unless its sports related.



Yes drink...probably less of a douchebag when you do...

Racist
Racist

Now your drunk....



Yep....just remind your kids that you support a man that degrades women and its ok to grab them in the P if your famous. Great example.....

I’ll take my lumps...what you got tonight? Any bets on my ban from this thread? Over/under 11/3....?
What are the rules for side bets on the election results?

definitely ok to grab them by the pansy.

Rough night for you - hope you are still around today.

[NeedChapmans]

Thank you Oreo. Life lessons from a cookie company to live by.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Dammit rman. By seconds!

Would have been 3 in a row had I been awake and logged on.
Starting to wonder if the masks are causing some to experience a lack of oxygen.

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[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Onions

Unless you want to believe it to reinforce your hate for Trump. I have seen a lot of stupid in this thread but today might take the cake. It's almost as if they see the election slipping away from them.

Too bad Heelie is not here to spread more stupid.

This has been my observation after reading the past 5-6 pages. Did something happen that I don’t know about? The anti Trump crowd seems nervous, and I’m not sure why. Back to insulting those who will vote / already voted for trump... less of that arrogance about them. More of the same “use a bunch of words but never say anything” type posts. Unhinging has come full circle now.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

Hoping that maybe I am just so disappointed in America that I am expecting the worst but that Biden actually wins. But then again even if he does win we already know Trump is going to dispute the elections results and the Supreme Court will side with him give he will have 3 lackeys on the court.

Do you ever stop feeling sorry for yourself?

This is America, and on Election Day our process will run its course. If Biden wins, good game, and may the next four years be everything you dreamed they’d be. If Trump wins, I will anxiously be awaiting videos of liberals crying... that sh** never gets old.

[NeedChapmans]

This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/davereaboi/statu...98063920361474

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by rman112

She is scared of admitting to being wrong in a disagreement with someone she doesn't like.

Yeah, maybe so.

Moreso than that, though, I tire of explaining simple things to people that only wish to argue because I happen to have been the one that said it.

You seem to have devolved to that level as well. Or perhaps you were there all along and I just missed it. Either way, I say good day to you, sir.

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[jlzinck]

Alright you blowhards.
Join my secret santa and I will match you up with someone on the opposite political spectrum and you can do something nice for them.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...5#post16581115

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by jstephens24

that's not how it displays. You said Trump was one thing...Needs disagreed and asked proof. You said he is attacking you even though it was without calling you names. What you said isn't 2+2=4

Interesting take. I suppose it's true. But look at it from my point of view for a moment, if you will.

Yes, I summarized a few of Trump's positions I happen to disagree with. Then NC disagreed and asked for proof. That's true.

Obviously he was attacking me. But let's set that aside for a moment. He asked for proof of things like Trump's anti-trans policy. There have been many instances where Trump has attempted to curtail the rights of LGBTQ people. One simply needs to type "Trump transgender policy" into their google search bar and dozens of instances pop up like magic.

Am I supposed to take the hour or two out of my life to copy/paste or retype all that because some blowhard on the internet that would disagree with me for saying oranges are orange is too lazy to type three words into his search bar and educate himself? Am I somehow mandated to do that? Why would I?

I chose instead to simply request that the man educate himself, rather than impose upon me to do so. If he seemed interested in intellectual debate, I may indeed have wasted the time to get him up to speed on the issue, but he did not. He wanted to argue about how many apples were still in his refrigerator. I simply have no desire to do that, so I decided to find someone else to converse with, someone that didn't require me to do their half of the legwork necessary prior to intellectual debate.

You are obviously free to judge things however you like. I just hope you consider both sides.

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[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Interesting take. I suppose it's true. But look at it from my point of view for a moment, if you will.

Yes, I summarized a few of Trump's positions I happen to disagree with. Then NC disagreed and asked for proof. That's true.

Obviously he was attacking me. But let's set that aside for a moment. He asked for proof of things like Trump's anti-trans policy. There have been many instances where Trump has attempted to curtail the rights of LGBTQ people. One simply needs to type "Trump transgender policy" into their google search bar and dozens of instances pop up like magic.

Am I supposed to take the hour or two out of my life to copy/paste or retype all that because some blowhard on the internet that would disagree with me for saying oranges are orange is too lazy to type three words into his search bar and educate himself? Am I somehow mandated to do that? Why would I?

I chose instead to simply request that the man educate himself, rather than impose upon me to do so. If he seemed interested in intellectual debate, I may indeed have wasted the time to get him up to speed on the issue, but he did not. He wanted to argue about how many apples were still in his refrigerator. I simply have no desire to do that, so I decided to find someone else to converse with, someone that didn't require me to do their half of the legwork necessary prior to intellectual debate.

You are obviously free to judge things however you like. I just hope you consider both sides.

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I asked you as well what Anti-Trans policies he put in place. I decided to look it up since I wasn't familiar and really all I saw was like I said. He cut them off from the healthcare to be able to do the procedure. I then followed up by asking if that was what you were referencing and asked if you wanted to debate because I think the problem is deeper than that.

Like I've said, you're better than this.

[Boo]

"I can send every single qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion," Biden said.

"After our interview, Mr. Biden's staff told us he misspoke, and that the cost of free public college could be twice as much as he said," CBS' Norah O'Donnell said.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

I asked you as well what Anti-Trans policies he put in place. I decided to look it up since I wasn't familiar and really all I saw was like I said. He cut them off from the healthcare to be able to do the procedure. I then followed up by asking if that was what you were referencing and asked if you wanted to debate because I think the problem is deeper than that.

Like I've said, you're better than this.

https://transequality.org/the-discri...administration

This is just the first thing that came up when I typed Trump transgender policy into my search bar.

ETA: I counted 71 instances of the Trump administration curtailing or attempting to curtail transgender rights. Many might be bogus claims, but many are not. And this is just the first thing google spit at me.

Again, I'm not going to copy/paste for a week and a half to demonstrate how Trump has trampled the Constitution. Google Trump tramples Constitution. Then we can debate the merits of each accusation if you wish.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Boo

"I can send every single qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion," Biden said.

"After our interview, Mr. Biden's staff told us he misspoke, and that the cost of free public college could be twice as much as he said," CBS' Norah O'Donnell said.

The genius of socialism and advocating for socialist policies is that once you start, you can never go back. The citizenry becomes dependent on the government for things and it's impossible to claw that freedom back. Imagine if Joe were successful in the endeavor above. Every American family would be taxed to pay for college for all and after say 8 years, a Republican comes in and wants to get rid of the policy.

You think the people that have paid 8 years in and have kids getting close to college age are going to want that policy discarded? LOL. They've spent eight years spending elsewhere and not having to worry about paying for college, how dare you take that away from these people yo soulless, racist fascist!

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

https://transequality.org/the-discri...administration

This is just the first thing that came up when I typed Trump transgender policy into my search bar.


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Have you read a lot of them or do you just post links? For example, The first one is saying a trans woman can’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter. If you can’t see why someone with a mind of a man shouldn’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter I can’t help you. If anything, you’re probably encouraging sexual harassment.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Have you read a lot of them or do you just post links? For example, The first one is saying a trans woman can’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter. If you can’t see why someone with a mind of a man shouldn’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter I can’t help you. If anything, you’re probably encouraging sexual harassment.

One of them is the nomination of Neil Gorsuch.

Here's the "republican" telling you why that's bad. Too on brand.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Have you read a lot of them or do you just post links? For example, The first one is saying a trans woman can’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter. If you can’t see why someone with a mind of a man shouldn’t live in a woman’s only homeless shelter I can’t help you. If anything, you’re probably encouraging sexual harassment.

Perfect example. Whether or not we agree on this is irrelevant when discussing this administrations transgender rights policy. Transgender people feel one way. Trump feels another. No matter who we agree with, we should be able to agree that Trump and transpeople are on opposite sides of the issue. Trump is against what they feel their rights are.

For the record, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm pretty sure how Trump feels though. Trump is anti.

Can we agree on that?

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[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

One of them is the nomination of Neil Gorsuch.

Here's the "republican" telling you why that's bad. Too on brand.

I think it’s clear she’s liberal which I don’t mind. She brings up a lot of great points but I hate to see her backpedaling into the left that just wants to blame everything on trump. She’s definitely more open than a lot of liberals on this thread but I think this is a prime example of her letting the media get to her.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Perfect example. Whether or not we agree on this is irrelevant when discussing this administrations transgender rights policy. Transgender people feel one way. Trump feels another. No matter who we agree with, we should be able to agree that Trump and transpeople are on opposite sides of the issue. Trump is against what they feel their rights are.

For the record, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm pretty sure how Trump feels though. Trump is anti.

Can we agree on that?

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Protecting the rights of people is never anti anything. Would you be safe going into a bathroom where guys were allowed to go into as well? I’m sorry but I have no problem what you identify as, but when it comes to places of privacy, that doesn’t matter to me anymore. It’s not anti anything. It’s called protecting the privacy rights of people. There’s a reason we both dont use the same public restrooms

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

I think it’s clear she’s liberal which I don’t mind. She brings up a lot of great points but I hate to see her backpedaling into the left that just wants to blame everything on trump. She’s definitely more open than a lot of liberals on this thread but I think this is a prime example of her letting the media get to her.

Label me however you like. I don't mind. I'd like to think I don't fit neatly into either category, square peg in a round hole if you will. I think I lean right. I explained why. NC wanted me to write a book to prove it. No thanks.

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[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Alright you blowhards.
Join my secret santa and I will match you up with someone on the opposite political spectrum and you can do something nice for them.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...5#post16581115

Thank you jlzinck for all you do for this community.
This is the season for giving and party affiliation has no baring on this.

I know we all get foolish in here, however I have no doubts this group of people will be thoughtful and generous with each other.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Protecting the rights of people is never anti anything. Would you be safe going into a bathroom where guys were allowed to go into as well? I’m sorry but I have no problem what you identify as, but when it comes to places of privacy, that doesn’t matter to me anymore. It’s not anti anything. It’s called protecting the privacy rights of people. There’s a reason we both dont use the same public restrooms

Ahhh, but here we go.

Two groups feel differently. Group A thinks they have the right to do X. Group B feels like Group A doing X steps on their right to do X. Group A and Group B both feel their rights are in need of protection.

Anyone that takes a stand here will be protecting one group's rights and denying the other group's perception of their rights. Pro A equals anti B.

Insert immigration, Constitutional issues, whatever...still pro A equals anti B.

Trump is both pro-normal people's rights and anti-trans rights at the same time.

Honestly, I thought "Trump is anti-trans" was common knowledge. Isn't that part of why righties dig him?

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Ahhh, but here we go.

Two groups feel differently. Group A thinks they have the right to do X. Group B feels like Group A doing X steps on their right to do X. Group A and Group B both feel their rights are in need of protection.

Anyone that takes a stand here will be protecting one group's rights and denying the other group's perception of their rights. Pro A equals anti B.

Insert immigration, Constitutional issues, whatever...still pro A equals anti B.

Trump is both pro-normal people's rights and anti-trans rights at the same time.

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Okay, so based on what you said, your pro LGBT so you support the procedures and no restroom requirements? Is that what proLGBT is these days? I have to basically give up my rights to be supportive of another group? Or does being pro LGBT means that I support their outlook on life when it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Okay, so based on what you said, your pro LGBT so you support the procedures and no restroom requirements? Is that what proLGBT is these days? I have to basically give up my rights to be supportive of another group? Or does being pro LGBT means that I support their outlook on life when it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others?

Wow, there's a lot there ^^ to disect. You said a lot in a few words, lol.

I am pro, yes...in a general sense. Just like I can lean right without agreeing straight down the ticket, I can be pro LGBTQ rights without agreeing on every single issue they face. Correct so far?

Do I support the procedures and no restroom requirements? Kind of. I'd like to see the bathroom issue revisited in a different way, actually. I'd prefer bathrooms were single-user. Go in, do your thing, next person goes in after. I get creeped out by anyone of any gender in a bathroom with me. I also think that solves the trans thing too. Bathrooms (women's, anyway) already have stalls for private use. Make the stalls more robust, problem solved.

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