Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[kabrune2]

Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

There were rules! Reimagine the iconic card. Was it a coincidence the majority of artist played by those rules?

I have to agree with 1977 here, I was ok with oma using different photos from the same year the original Topps photos were used if he kept the card design somewhat the same, but when he deletes the photo, the border, and everything that made the card ‘iconic’ to whoever decided it was ‘iconic’ at Topps, it’s not reimagining the iconic card but rather throwing away the entire card and creating a new one... and in the Frank Thomas card he created a magazine, not even a card imho.

With that said I like the way it looks, very visually appealing to me, but I wouldn’t consider it a reimanged 1990 Topps Frank Thomas, but just a new Frank Thomas card produced in 2020.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

You would be fine if for Frank Thomas an image of Joe Thiesmann breaking his leg to indicate "The Big Hurt" was done? It is reimagining an iconic card not creating a card of an iconic player.

I wouldn't like it, I would want to try to understand it. I would disagree with that artist's interpretation because a grotesquely broken leg isn't the same kind of "hurt" as Frank Thomas. But it would fall within the bounds of the project since it was an interpretation of a card.

An artist could release a card that is a Cardinal's red colored rectangle (with a border so Topps can print it offcentered) for Bob Gibson. I wouldn't like it. I don't like monochromatic art. But it would fall squarely within the bounds of an interpretation of the card.

Man, never go to a modern art museum you would hate it. Some of the art isn't even hyperrealistic! Some of the artists can do hyperrealism and, get this, they choose not to.

How is that Frank Thomas by oma a reimagination of that card? I, and the majority of others took that as holding some sort of continuity of the original/iconic card.

As I mentioned earlier it's a clear homage to Beckett Baseball Card Monthly and Sports Illustrated. I love it. Sorry not sorry. When his rookie card came out there were a lot of these publications that were everywhere, it's awesome to have that on a card. Yeah I wish the date was sometime in 1990. Yeah, I would change minor things about. But I'm not OMA. I'm sorry it's so far "out there" that you don't appreciate it. That's about all I can say. It's not the Thiesmann break. False equivalences are pointless.

[AirplaneDon]

Super excited to check back in on everyone’s definition of “reimagine” this evening.

This project never ceases to deliver.

[Oliroller]

Here is my unpopular take of the day sure to generate pages of disdain...….a year or two after this Project is over, OMA will be the most collected full artist set in this Project.

[DMS6391]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

We had this discussion many pages back. "Reimagining" apparently means replicating the actual card to most in this forum. If we wanted to twist this to someone other than OMA though, how many artists kept the "original, iconic" Koufax and Clemente cards horizontal? Not many. So where are the haters on all of the artists for turning them vertical?

Yes. There have been several cards from several artists that, in a side by side comparison, totally deviate from the original and have little in common with the original. And that’s ok. Somehow this critique seems to get applied to certain artists and not others though...

I don’t think it’s a totally invalid criticism. But I also don’t think that criticism is being applied equally to all artists.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Here is my unpopular take of the day sure to generate pages of disdain...….a year or two after this Project is over, OMA will be the most collected full artist set in this Project.

why is that?

[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Here is my unpopular take of the day sure to generate pages of disdain...….a year or two after this Project is over, OMA will be the most collected full artist set in this Project.

Makes for a better topic of conversation since El-Davo is 100% correct on the other topic. So the next 12 hours of bickering is better spent on this comment, which is actually an opinion.

[Oliroller]

I believe that OMA's cards appeal to more of the average baseball card collector than the other artists. I think they will appreciate the vintage look of his cards. I may be wrong, but time will tell.

[ThoseBackPages]

OMA has been consistently terrible since day one with his 1991 Fleer Gwynn

[WhoKilledTupac]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Here is my unpopular take of the day sure to generate pages of disdain...….a year or two after this Project is over, OMA will be the most collected full artist set in this Project.

VIDES!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

I believe that OMA's cards appeal to more of the average baseball card collector than the other artists. I think they will appreciate the vintage look of his cards. I may be wrong, but time will tell.

that would be Vides lol

[WhoKilledTupac]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

OMA has been consistently terrible since day one with his 1991 Fleer Gwynn

Is there any difference between OMA Mariano vs. the original? Did he even do anything to/with that card? Added a slightly bigger border, cool, done.

[Oliroller]

OMA changed the background on the Rivera as well. I will admit, I think OMA got much better after those first two cards. We can sit here and find a card or two we dislike from every artist in this set though

[Oliroller]

Two of the first three...…..the OMA Koufax is beautiful. To me, one of the nicest cards in the set.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by WhoKilledTupac

Is there any difference between OMA Mariano vs. the original? Did he even do anything to/with that card? Added a slightly bigger border, cool, done.

Originally Posted by Oliroller

OMA changed the background on the Rivera as well.

Pretty sure we decided he also blurred a pant leg? At least I recall that complaint.

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by DMS6391

Yes. There have been several cards from several artists that, in a side by side comparison, totally deviate from the original and have little in common with the original. And that’s ok. Somehow this critique seems to get applied to certain artists and not others though...

I don’t think it’s a totally invalid criticism. But I also don’t think that criticism is being applied equally to all artists.

I think this is mostly because they're exceptionally good. When OMA and Shore (and Don C) do something out of the box, it helps that it's well-thought out and striking and looks good and has consistency with their other work.

[fjdlrw]

Originally Posted by BigEd

Email regarding Sophia's companions:



I'm happy to hear she's using thicker stock. Those should be really awesome.

I was excited to see that, as well. Also, I'm hoping to be lucky to get one of the bonus items that she says she'll include. I'm something like 0-14 with any companion autos, and this would be my last shot at one. Don't ask me for lotto numbers. Lol.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Here is my unpopular take of the day sure to generate pages of disdain...….a year or two after this Project is over, OMA will be the most collected full artist set in this Project.

Probably because his cards will be the most affordable because, along with Vides, they will be tough to give them away.

[cavsfan70]

like it: buy it!

don't like it: come on here rip it to shreds as-if it's the worst thing ever invented.

everyone wins!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by cavsfan70

like it: buy it!

don't like it: come on here rip it to shreds as-if it's the worst thing ever invented.

everyone wins!

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Probably because his cards will be the most affordable because, along with Vides, they will be tough to give them away.

I might double my purchase of the amount of OMA's Thomas given the very convincing arguments on this thread!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I might double my purchase of the amount of OMA's Thomas given the very convincing arguments on this thread!

i think that is a good idea!

[Oliroller]

Well I know the PR for OMA's Thomas will be at least 5...….lol

[WhoKilledTupac]

Hot take: both cards from yesterday are incredible! I enjoy both, one more so than the other.

[ThoseBackPages]

id like to see todays cards