2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2103

DegaBama · 10-25-2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

So?

Are you afraid of losing a couple bucks? Would you sacrifice a few bucks to save your neighbor?

Why are you so afraid of a recession?

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Few bucks? Sure. My livelihood? Nope. It's my job to take care of my family. Not to take care of yours.

Jgil316 · 10-25-2020, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by discostu

You are most certainly not "creating awareness."

Please don't confuse yourself.

Agreed - only awareness I am seeing is that people are gullible and believe the Q nonsense that is seeping into the GOP, from the fringe.

Jgil316 · 10-25-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Few bucks? Sure. My livelihood? Nope. It's my job to take care of my family. Not to take care of yours.

Thank god the greatest generation did not believe like this.

If they did, we would be goose-stepping.

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Few bucks? Sure. My livelihood? Nope. It's my job to take care of my family. Not to take care of yours.

If Americans were this selfish, you'd be speaking german and saluting a fuhrer.

Mighty patriotic of you there.

ETA: Sometimes the best way to take care of your family is to take care of your neighbor. You don't get to pick and choose when you want to be part of a community.

DegaBama · 10-25-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

Thank god the greatest generation did not believe like this.

If they did, we would be goose-stepping.

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

If Americans were this selfish, you'd be speaking german and saluting a fuhrer.

Mighty patriotic of you there.

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I don't care, it's never been my job to destroy my family to help yours. You can be a decent human being too. We've spent 250 years doing that. But now it's selfish to want to take care of YOUR own family before taking care of someone else's.

Astros19 · 10-25-2020, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

If Americans were this selfish, you'd be speaking german and saluting a fuhrer.

Mighty patriotic of you there.

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If taking care of my family makes me selfish, I'll wear that badge with honor.
Regarding the recession, I watched as both my mother, and my in-laws lost tens of thousands of dollars of their savings a few years back and all of them suffer from it. I'd rather not see it happen to me and my wife.
Call me selfish, I don't give 2 sh!ts.
Will you when I call you stupid for not caring about your life savings?

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gopherfan · 10-25-2020, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

I'd personally be reluctant to separate myself from one of my children, especially if his worst "crime" was having a substance abuse problem, which he overcame, to his credit.

It's rare, but I agree completely. I will always stand by my kids. I will tell them when they make what I consider bad decisions, I will be disappointed in them, mad at them sometimes, but I will always stand by them.

thenwhatjk · 10-25-2020, 10:56 AM

Who is advocating not prioritizing one’s own family in life? What are y’all even arguing?

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

If taking care of my family makes me selfish, I'll wear that badge with honor.
Regarding the recession, I watched as both my mother, and my in-laws lost tens of thousands of dollars of their savings a few years back and all of them suffer from it. I'd rather not see it happen to me and my wife.
Call me selfish, I don't give 2 sh!ts.
Will you when I call you stupid for not caring about your life savings?

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Lol, my life savings is safe. Recession-proofing isn't all that hard. My financial house is in order.

If you're not willing to replace your $6 soy latte crapacchino for a 25 cent cup of coffee to better your country, then you do not deserve to be a citizen. Lucky for you, citizenry is given here. If it was earned, you'd be Canadian or something.

Belt-tightening is coming. Deal with it. The choice is not yours to make.

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AwesomeBrian · 10-25-2020, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

If Americans were this selfish, you'd be speaking german and saluting a fuhrer.

Mighty patriotic of you there.

ETA: Sometimes the best way to take care of your family is to take care of your neighbor. You don't get to pick and choose when you want to be part of a community.

I was about to say a something similar to your ending there... If you read back you'll know Mr. Bama there is not gonna change his tune so it's pointless to continue with him.

gopherfan · 10-25-2020, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Jong Un and Trump are buddies?

They should be, Trump golfs everyday, and Jong Un once shot an 18. He could be Trump's coach and mentor.

Astros19 · 10-25-2020, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Lol, my life savings is safe. Recession-proofing isn't all that hard. My financial house is in order.

If you're not willing to replace your $6 soy latte crapacchino for a 25 cent cup of coffee to better your country, then you do not deserve to be a citizen. Lucky for you, citizenry is given here. If it was earned, you'd be Canadian or something.

Belt-tightening is coming. Deal with it. The choice is not yours to make.

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lol
Yea, I'm a soy latte crapacchino drinking, Trump supporting 59 year old Iowan. Belt tightening and cheap coffee is part of the reason I have a life savings.
Be better.
On another topic, somebody should tell Biden all of those plexiglass walls he wants installed between every single student in every single school and between every single worker in every single business across America, well, they're made out of you guessed it, petroleum.
You can't make this sh!t up.

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rman112 · 10-25-2020, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

No one knows? Okay, I guess literally that's true. But it's pretty ridiculous to assume we can't make educated guesses.

Let's get the smartest mfers we can find, stick em in a room, and let them guide us. Or, we can ignore the people we already had in place for that and instead just wing it. Excellent.

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Isn't that what we did with the IHME models?

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Isn't that what we did with the IHME models?

I'm not 100% educated on this and I don't claim to be. This is why I advocate for smarter people than myself in the room.

I think the IHME models are part of the situation, sure. They help define what we are facing and what might happen if we took certain courses of action, is that correct? The folks in that room hopefully considered the models and gave them whatever weight was appropriate.

Unfortunately, some of our leaders listened to the people in that room and some didn't. Some apparently assumed they were smarter than the smartest people we could find. Trump was one that didn't listen. He discredited some of them, even though he picked them in the first place.

Some of our governors listened to some of the recommendations. That's all that happened.

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JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

lol
Yea, I'm a soy latte crapacchino drinking, Trump supporting 59 year old Iowan. Belt tightening and cheap coffee is part of the reason I have a life savings.
Be better.
On another topic, somebody should tell Biden all of those plexiglass walls he wants installed between every single student in every single school and between every single worker in every single business across America, well, they're made out of you guessed it, petroleum.
You can't make this sh!t up.

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This entire post is irrelevant.

Be better.

ETA: the second part is pretty funny though. Irony rocks sometimes. : )

DegaBama · 10-25-2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'm not 100% educated on this and I don't claim to be. This is why I advocate for smarter people than myself in the room.

I think the IHME models are part of the situation, sure. They help define what we are facing and what might happen if we took certain courses of action, is that correct? The folks in that room hopefully considered the models and gave them whatever weight was appropriate.

Unfortunately, some of our leaders listened to the people in that room and some didn't. Some apparently assumed they were smarter than the smartest people we could find. Trump was one that didn't listen. He discredited some of them, even though he picked them in the first place.

Some of our governors listened to some of the recommendations. That's all that happened.

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Who listened to the recommendations?

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Who listened to the recommendations?

Some of them listened to some of the recommendations. I don't think anyone listened to all of it.

I could be incorrect though.

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DegaBama · 10-25-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Some of them listened to some of the recommendations. I don't think anyone listened to all of it.

I could be incorrect though.

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I agree, I think all listened to some of it.

Astros19 · 10-25-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

This entire post is irrelevant.

Be better.

ETA: the second part is pretty funny though. Irony rocks sometimes. : )

Irrelevant?
You're the one who brought up both soy lattes and people being selfish for wanting to put their own families first.

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JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:32 AM

I remember watching TV a couple decades ago with a man that became one of my mentors in life. It was the 80s, so don't judge me, haha. The TV said, "If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...the A-Team".

My mentor suggested never to forget that. I never have.

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rman112 · 10-25-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'm not 100% educated on this and I don't claim to be. This is why I advocate for smarter people than myself in the room.

I think the IHME models are part of the situation, sure. They help define what we are facing and what might happen if we took certain courses of action, is that correct? The folks in that room hopefully considered the models and gave them whatever weight was appropriate.

Unfortunately, some of our leaders listened to the people in that room and some didn't. Some apparently assumed they were smarter than the smartest people we could find. Trump was one that didn't listen. He discredited some of them, even though he picked them in the first place.

Some of our governors listened to some of the recommendations. That's all that happened.

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The models sucked, though. That was the point I wanted to make.

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

Irrelevant?
You're the one who brought up both soy lattes and people being selfish for wanting to put their own families first.

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Lol. Soy latte was a metaphor.

And family vs country is not a binary choice. There are degrees. Small sacrifices for one might be worth larger gains for the other. Nobody is advocating destroying your family. You can have both.

This is why I found the post irrelevant. I meant no disrespect.

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JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

The models sucked, though. That was the point I wanted to make.

Fair enough.

We needed smarter people, lol. And we needed to listen to them.

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mike1498 · 10-25-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Lol. Soy latte was a metaphor.

And family vs country is not a binary choice. There are degrees. Small sacrifices for one might be worth larger gains for the other. Nobody is advocating destroying your family. You can have both.

This is why I found the post irrelevant. I meant no disrespect.

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If you agree with this statement, we shouldn't be locking down the economy.

I don't think it should be binary. I think we should look for ways to reduce the spread of the disease while coexisting with the climate.

rman112 · 10-25-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Fair enough.

We needed smarter people, lol. And we needed to listen to them.

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So what happens when the people that are deemed smart are wrong? What happens when their own biases get in the way?

Blame Trump?

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JustRachel Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 5,663	I remember watching TV a couple decades ago with a man that became one of my mentors in life. It was the 80s, so don't judge me, haha. The TV said, "If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...the A-Team". My mentor suggested never to forget that. I never have. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk