Cousins to golden state - Page 21

BGT Masters · 07-03-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

We all know that if a superstar went to Lebron's team for $5MM that the Lebron fans would have no problem with it.

Did the Lakers win the championship last year in a sweep? Or did they miss out on a playoff spot by 12 games? To be fair. Sure fans of any team want their team to get every single best player they can get, but comparing the two teams and situations aren't the same.

Chris P · 07-03-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

We all know that if a superstar went to Lebron's team for $5MM that the Lebron fans would have no problem with it.

And people that hate Lebron would...works both ways

tazz1213 · 07-03-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

We all know that if a superstar went to Lebron's team for $5MM that the Lebron fans would have no problem with it.

Lebron went to a team that won 37! games last year and was 12 games out of the #8 seed. Actually, fans of the game, not just Lebron James fans, would love to see a rebuild of a legendary franchise. So, Cousins signing for 1 year at the MLE in order to COMPETE against the GSW juggernaut would have been applauded. Instead, he is now a snake like KD was/ is!

elee712 · 07-03-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Jesus, even the most devoted Warriors fan that gave a damn about them before they rolled out an entire team of all-stars should look at this and just shake their head. I’m a Patriots fan, and I know everyone hates them with a passion because they keep winning, but they do it without having 20 stud players on their roster. They win because of the culture and the mindset. This garbage is just bad for everyone. Even if I’m a real Warriors fan, I feel dirty.

Not at all. If you went thru the 20 years prior, nobody cared that we were a perennial lottery team, nobody wanting to play here and only able to overpay for past their prime players. I am enjoying the success now because I know nothing lasts forever and happy we have a well run franchise which is a desired destination rather than a last choice place to play. I'm sure every franchise strive to be in this position.

I'm not a big fan of the cousins move but I'm speaking in general terms.

blackandgold · 07-03-2018, 05:17 PM

Can’t hide the stats here:
Since obtaining Cousins in February 2017, the Pelicans were 34-31 with him in the lineup and 30-21 without him. In that span, their longest winning streak with him was four games. Without him, they reeled off winning streaks of 10, nine and four games.

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

That sounds like.. piggybacking.

No sounds like healing as it is 3 teams that will not rush him onto the court and risk his long term health.

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tazz1213

Lebron went to a team that won 37! games last year and was 12 games out of the #8 seed. Actually, fans of the game, not just Lebron James fans, would love to see a rebuild of a legendary franchise. So, Cousins signing for 1 year at the MLE in order to COMPETE against the GSW juggernaut would have been applauded. Instead, he is now a snake like KD was/ is!

Now he can in 2019 sign with the Lakers for 4 years $60 million and help rebuild a legendary franchise.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

No sounds like healing as it is 3 teams that will not rush him onto the court and risk his long term health.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

No sounds like healing as it is 3 teams that will not rush him onto the court and risk his long term health.

Curious.. did he also call those other two teams to let them know he'd sign for relative peanuts?

patchgenie · 07-03-2018, 05:31 PM

will silver void the deal?

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Curious.. did he also call those other two teams to let them know he'd sign for relative peanuts?

Houston's MLE looks to be used up. Maybe Houston offered him a 2-3 year deal instead and that was the problem there they wanted him too cheap in Year 2 and 3.

XM Radio NBA Reporters said Boston sources didnt want to upset the locker room.

Based on that and the fact that GSW would be a great place to mature with that group and heal I can see why he made the move.

You said either of those 3 would be piggybacking, any of those 3 would be healing.

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

No spin, just smart business by another NBA player.

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patchgenie

will silver void the deal?

No reason for him to at all, does not violate an NBA rule and the NBA does not own the Warriors.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Houston's MLE looks to be used up. Maybe Houston offered him a 2-3 year deal instead and that was the problem there they wanted him too cheap in Year 2 and 3.

XM Radio NBA Reporters said Boston sources didnt want to upset the locker room.

Based on that and the fact that GSW would be a great place to mature with that group and heal I can see why he made the move.

You said either of those 3 would be piggybacking, any of those 3 would be healing.

What Cousins did was absolutely piggybacking.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

No spin, just smart business by another NBA player.

Spinning is making it seem as if he didn't sign with GS for cheap in exchange for a ring.

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

What Cousins did was absolutely piggybacking.

So he should have taken a deal with less money in years 2 and 3 for the good of the league? Give me a break.

He went to a team that will not be able to sign him in 2019. This means he did not check off a team like the Lakers.

Went to a team with the MLE.

Went to a team that can allow him to heal and won't feel pressured to rush him.

Went to a team that is respected in the league and can help him with his maturity issues.

Went to a team that also gave him a one year deal, so he can prove himself.

Went to a team that also would take him as there were multiple teams that were not interested in him period.

That is not piggybacking, that is smart business and looking out for your future.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

So he should have taken a deal with less money in years 2 and 3 for the good of the league? Give me a break.

He went to a team that will not be able to sign him in 2019. This means he did not check off a team like the Lakers.

Went to a team with the MLE.

Went to a team that can allow him to heal and won't feel pressured to rush him.

Went to a team that is respected in the league and can help him with his maturity issues.

Went to a team that also gave him a one year deal, so he can prove himself.

Went to a team that also would take him as there were multiple teams that were not interested in him period.

That is not piggybacking, that is smart business and looking out for your future.

Omission:

Went to a team to win a championship

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Omission:

Went to a team to win a championship

Not an omission at all as another team had the #1 seed in the Playoffs.

He could have gone to a number of teams to compete for a title and had to sign a multi-year deal that is unfair to his future, but he chose not to do that. Even Pelicans put forth a multi-year deal which was way below his recent salaries.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not an omission at all as another team had the #1 seed in the Playoffs.

He could have gone to a number of teams to compete for a title and had to sign a multi-year deal that is unfair to his future, but he chose not to do that. Even Pelicans put forth a multi-year deal which was way below his recent salaries.

LOL! Give me a break. The Warriors just swept in the finals! In a landslide! #1 seed, very relevant.

To say that teams would have been lined up at the door to give him 8 or 10 million for one year is an understatement. Even a team like Boston, who I'm sure had doubts of his attitude (and rightfully so) would've given him more than 5.3 for one year.. easily.

No offers? Yeah, because teams knew he wanted a big deal. So 2 days into free agency he bails.

elee712 · 07-03-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Now he can in 2019 sign with the Lakers for 4 years $60 million and help rebuild a legendary franchise.

That's right. I dont get what the hub bub is about. If cousins plays well and behaves theres no way in hell he is resigning with the warriors. It's a half year rental for essentially 20 million.

Lakers werent contending this year for the title anyways. Warriors are just rehabbing him for anybody who is willing to give him a long term contract next year.

elee712 · 07-03-2018, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Curious.. did he also call those other two teams to let them know he'd sign for relative peanuts?

Did he have to? If no team was willing to sign him for anything more than the mid level, why cant he pick where he goes to?

Yaz1966 · 07-03-2018, 06:16 PM

He turned down 2 years $40 million from the Pelicans

Cavaliercards · 07-03-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

LOL! Give me a break. The Warriors just swept in the finals! In a landslide! #1 seed, very relevant.

To say that teams would have been lined up at the door to give him 8 or 10 million for one year is an understatement. Even a team like Boston, who I'm sure had doubts of his attitude (and rightfully so) would've given him more than 5.3 for one year.. easily.

No offers? Yeah, because teams knew he wanted a big deal. So 2 days into free agency he bails.

Offers were known days before, same as any other year. Gonna go with NBA reporters who do this for a living that said Boston wasn’t interested. Paul getting injured hurt that series.

rman112 · 07-03-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaz1966

He turned down 2 years $40 million from the Pelicans

Boogie is playing the victim mentality so hard.

“I was f—– up,” Cousins said. “I said to [agent] Jarin [Akana], ‘Let’s make a call.’ He was shocked. It was very insulting to not receive an offer. But I understand. I prepared myself for this.”

Reality translation:

"..not receive an offer." -- > "not receive a MAX offer"

elee712 · 07-03-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Omission:

Went to a team to win a championship

I dont think many people in life would be interested in taking less money to go to a bad situation.

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blackandgold Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lockport La Posts: 9,127 guidry2732	Can’t hide the stats here: Since obtaining Cousins in February 2017, the Pelicans were 34-31 with him in the lineup and 30-21 without him. In that span, their longest winning streak with him was four games. Without him, they reeled off winning streaks of 10, nine and four games.

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patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,873 americansportscards	will silver void the deal?

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Yaz1966 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Zealand (US postal address) Posts: 984	He turned down 2 years $40 million from the Pelicans