2019-20 Panini Chronicles Basketball- Pre-release Thread

[ThePackLife]

Originally Posted by staypuft39

Found and opened a 4 blasters today (Alberta) and seemed I got some "hot" ones? Every blaster only had 2 or 3 chronicles base cards and the rest were rookies/stars. Weird to get packs with no base. Also hit Coby White and DeAndre Hunter silvers and an auto (Ty Jerome). Nothing crazy, but has anyone else had blasters with barely any base? Was hitting 1 or 2 per pack in my last batch.

One of my fatpacks had only two base cards the rest were rookies including 3 Hachimuras. This was actually the norm for Chronicles last year as I broke multiple packs that had at least 3 Lukas in them.

[ThinkOTB]

Originally Posted by staypuft39

Found and opened a 4 blasters today (Alberta) and seemed I got some "hot" ones? Every blaster only had 2 or 3 chronicles base cards and the rest were rookies/stars. Weird to get packs with no base. Also hit Coby White and DeAndre Hunter silvers and an auto (Ty Jerome). Nothing crazy, but has anyone else had blasters with barely any base? Was hitting 1 or 2 per pack in my last batch.

Pretty normal. I opened a lot and the majority was very rookie heavy. I ended up with 52 Zion and 48 Ja. Even more Coby white, etc.

[21Pittsburgh58]

I opened a blaster that had zero Ja or Zion's until the last pack: (2) Ja base RC's and a Zion green Essentials RC.

Found (3) Megas, (4) hangars, (4) blasters. Opened 'em all. Loved it!

[Howie7107]

Busted a blaster and a bunch of the cellos that I found earlier. Think the rest is going on eBay. Just takes too long to sort through all of this stuff and I have more Zion and Ja now than I know what to do with. Still dumbfounded at people leaving this to take out all of the Illusions earlier.

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by rippev

BO and DAC have bounties for megas, so they’ll never drop below them.

Not necessarily true. The two most recent hangers sold for 32 and 28 on ebay. DAC is offering 40.

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by Sticks33

Not necessarily true. The two most recent hangers sold for 32 and 28 on ebay. DAC is offering 40.

It's definitely slightly imperfect. A far smaller percentage of sellers are aware of the bounties put out by DAC and BO than you think.

[Retail Fool]

Originally Posted by ThePackLife

Walked through the card aisle at one of my Targets yesterday and there was atleast a good 10-15 people browsing the same aisle. One had a Stock X shirt on too. It's safe to say that retail cards at retail prices is pretty much non-existent for me. With that said, None Today! LOL

LOL. If i saw someone with a stockX shirt on where i'm at, I think i would call it a year.

Originally Posted by staypuft39

Found and opened a 4 blasters today (Alberta) and seemed I got some "hot" ones? Every blaster only had 2 or 3 chronicles base cards and the rest were rookies/stars. Weird to get packs with no base. Also hit Coby White and DeAndre Hunter silvers and an auto (Ty Jerome). Nothing crazy, but has anyone else had blasters with barely any base? Was hitting 1 or 2 per pack in my last batch.

Which Coby Silver did you pull?

[Fratboy]

Ja Bronze Phoenix just went for $153.00.... Wasn't listed as a Bronze

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Fratboy

Ja Bronze Phoenix just went for $153.00.... Wasn't listed as a Bronze

yeah it was hanging out at $20something for a long time, a bunch of us tried to snipe it knowing that it was a bronze. I was 2nd highest with the 15x

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by jjo1776

Ya I got a Nunn Bronze Phoenix for $34 on eBay which is on the way

If it's the same one I spotted a few days ago it was mislabeled...
Send a pic when you get it!

[Spacemanspif]

we'll probably never know an exact number, and may take months for the POP report to reflect any real differences in parallels, but not sure how rare Bronze actually is. Between the mislabels and ones I've bid on or bought, I feel like there have been as many show up for certain cards as there have /99 or /49. btw, the numbers of #'d chrome have been really low, I wonder what % of Hobby has actually been ripped

[rifleman69]

Opened a box of fatpacks and I think I came out with 16 or 17 bronze...

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

we'll probably never know an exact number, and may take months for the POP report to reflect any real differences in parallels, but not sure how rare Bronze actually is. Between the mislabels and ones I've bid on or bought, I feel like there have been as many show up for certain cards as there have /99 or /49. btw, the numbers of #'d chrome have been really low, I wonder what % of Hobby has actually been ripped

I still think Teal is easily the most scarce, at least in general. Maybe it varies once you talk about chrome though? I think the teal aren't too far off from the print run of Red numbered.

[2balls1strike]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I still think Teal is easily the most scarce, at least in general. Maybe it varies once you talk about chrome though? I think the teal aren't too far off from the print run of Red numbered.

Zion Teal Crusade- 3 sold, 2 currently for sale
Zion Bronze Crusade- 2 sold, 1 for sale

Ja Teal Crusade- 3 sold, 0 for sale
Ja Bronze Crusade- 0 sold, 0 for sale


That's just a quick search. I think bronze are SSP.

There have been 2 purple Crusade /49 Zion sold and 2 for sale. I would guess the bronze are >25

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by 2balls1strike

Zion Teal Crusade- 3 sold, 2 currently for sale
Zion Bronze Crusade- 2 sold, 1 for sale

Ja Teal Crusade- 3 sold, 0 for sale
Ja Bronze Crusade- 0 sold, 0 for sale


That's just a quick search. I think bronze are SSP.

Bronze are definitely ssp imo. Tons of fat packs have been opened and there are few bronze listed. My guess is that there's not that many teals because people are holding megas and not opening them.

[2balls1strike]

Originally Posted by mikejones

Bronze are definitely ssp imo. Tons of fat packs have been opened and there are few bronze listed. My guess is that there's not that many teals because people are holding megas and not opening them.

That's an excellent point.

[ThePackLife]

Are they doing /5 SSP Bronzes again this year? Those were the chase for sure last year and I only got one but that's the main reason I gravitated to fat packs. You can say that the Fat Pack exclusive bronzes are pretty SP but you're guaranteed atleast one non-numbered bronze per pack sometimes multiples.

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jamz33

I'd add Clarke to that list.

Jaren Jackson Jr is too injury prone and Clarke will eventually take that spot in the rotation.

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I picked out all these guys plus Coby, Reddish and Nunn

[poomplavk]

Originally Posted by TSonn

If it's the same one I spotted a few days ago it was mislabeled...
Send a pic when you get it!

I think that one is still up... ironically both are the same price. The bronze is still there under sold listings.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by ThePackLife

Are they doing /5 SSP Bronzes again this year? Those were the chase for sure last year and I only got one but that's the main reason I gravitated to fat packs. You can say that the Fat Pack exclusive bronzes are pretty SP but you're guaranteed atleast one non-numbered bronze per pack sometimes multiples.

no way they're /5, as noted above we've seen AT LEAST 3 of Ja Crusade and I've seen at least 3 of Ja Phoenix, there's probably more that have been mislabeled that we've missed, plus ones going directly to grading, or still in sealed. I think the PR of each colored parallel could be <100, but definitely going to be somewhere north of 20

[Retail Fool]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

Opened a box of fatpacks and I think I came out with 16 or 17 bronze...

But how many bronze chrome?

[GTguy]

Originally Posted by 2balls1strike

That's an excellent point.

Not really. Teals are absolutely the rarest just by logic alone. Megas are Target exclusive and have pretty much dried up. That’s aside from the fact that there have been by far fewer teals listed than any other color.

To say people are holding Megas and penalize Teals but then not apply that sentiment to other formats / colors is just silly.

[ThePackLife]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

no way they're /5, as noted above we've seen AT LEAST 3 of Ja Crusade and I've seen at least 3 of Ja Phoenix, there's probably more that have been mislabeled that we've missed, plus ones going directly to grading, or still in sealed. I think the PR of each colored parallel could be <100, but definitely going to be somewhere north of 20

The true SSP Bronzes were all serial numbered. The one I pulled is a Bruce Brown Chronicles numbered 3/5, I have to double check on the exact number but it's definitely serialed. They also had the non-numbered bronzes as well which is what I think youre talking about. That's why I was asking if they did the SSP's /5 again this year.

[2balls1strike]

Originally Posted by GTguy

Not really. Teals are absolutely the rarest just by logic alone. Megas are Target exclusive and have pretty much dried up. That’s aside from the fact that there have been by far fewer teals listed than any other color.

To say people are holding Megas and penalize Teals but then not apply that sentiment to other formats / colors is just silly.

To search a few more, there are 3 Nunn Crusade Teal listed or sold. 0 Bronze.
Bol Bol, 1 of each. 4 Teal Herro, 1 Bronze. Coby White, 1 Teal and 0 Bronze.

Both are SSP, but Bronze is THE SSP here imo. So I'm clear, I'm looking at the Crusades.

[2balls1strike]

Originally Posted by ThePackLife

The true SSP Bronzes were all serial numbered. The one I pulled is a Bruce Brown Chronicles numbered 3/5, I have to double check on the exact number but it's definitely serialed. They also had the non-numbered bronzes as well which is what I think youre talking about. That's why I was asking if they did the SSP's /5 again this year.

Last year it looks like the Bronze were numbered. This year they are not. We need CalculusDork to chime in. With a name like that, he's the one I trust.