2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[Astros19]

Obama's a racist.
Hillary's a racist.
Don't agree, disprove it.
See how stupid that argument is?

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[SanAntonioSpurs]

So, can someone explain why Obama, having one of the biggest racists (Al Sharpton) in America over to the White House on a regular basis, then making him his race ambassador, and no one says a word?

The left does a lot of attacking an the right stays off balance because they keep trying defend their selves over every little thing. The right needs to take a cue from the left and just brush it off, refuse to answer for it, instead of constantly trying to justify something. That's how Hillary, Obama, Holder, and all the other left crooks get away with stuff.

The amount of political correctness in this thread is also laughable and exactly why race issues, and the problems in America will never get fixed.

[TheHeel]

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Bronco Buster

Trump is going to have the same problem Obama did. He's making all these promises and guarantees but in the end it's impossible to keep them because it's one thing to say what your going to do and actually being able to do it.

Even let's say Trump gets elected. Anyone with a brain knows you aren't going to build this huge wall the span of the US/Mexico border and deport 11 million + illegal immigrants in a 4 yr. span. That's not to mention all these other things he wants to do.


4 yrs. just isn't a long enough time span to get anything done and make noticeable changes. I've always said elections should be every 8 yrs not 4 yrs. and there should be no maximum term limit. If the majority believe you are doing good enough to stay then you should stay. If you aren't getting it done trust me they won't keep you around.

Have you seen the Hillary supporters on here begging for Obama 2.0? Obama has possibly been the worst in history and the left is clamoring for more.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs

So, can someone explain why Obama, having one of the biggest racists (Al Sharpton) in America over to the White House on a regular basis, then making him his race ambassador, and no one says a word?

The left does a lot of attacking an the right stays off balance because they keep trying defend their selves over every little thing. The right needs to take a cue from the left and just brush it off, refuse to answer for it, instead of constantly trying to justify something. That's how Hillary, Obama, Holder, and all the other left crooks get away with stuff.

The amount of political correctness in this thread is also laughable and exactly why race issues, and the problems in America will never get fixed.

Because the only response the left has towards most anything anybody on the right has to say is that they're racist, bigoted, or sexist.
It's their playbook and has been for decades.

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[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Have you seen the Hillary supporters on here begging for Obama 2.0? Obama has possibly been the worst in history and the left is clamoring for more.

How is he one of the worst in history?

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs

So, can someone explain why Obama, having one of the biggest racists (Al Sharpton) in America over to the White House on a regular basis, then making him his race ambassador, and no one says a word?

The left does a lot of attacking an the right stays off balance because they keep trying defend their selves over every little thing. The right needs to take a cue from the left and just brush it off, refuse to answer for it, instead of constantly trying to justify something. That's how Hillary, Obama, Holder, and all the other left crooks get away with stuff.

The amount of political correctness in this thread is also laughable and exactly why race issues, and the problems in America will never get fixed.

Simple, if you say anything negative about Obama, the Dem side immediately calls you a racist. It's their easiest excuse to continue pushing their pro-Dem agenda. Race card trumps everything (no pun intended), and they use it every chance they get.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How is he one of the worst in history?

How is he one of the best?

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How is he one of the worst in history?

How is he one of the best?

We have talked about why he is one of the worst in this thread. Nobody has backed up their statement that he is one of the best.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Because the only response the left has towards most anything anybody on the right has to say is that they're racist, bigoted, or sexist.
It's their playbook and has been for decades.

Maybe so, but where do you think the Left got the idea?
When so many on the Right ARE exactly that way, it's a pretty effective playbook, and it's not really been a priority of the Right to change that perception, so here we are.
Don't like it? Talk to your people.
Tell them to not be so racist, bigoted, and sexist and that playbook wouldn't be so effective.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

Fair enough. But if I had a choice as to where my tax dollars go, I'd rather it went to help children here illegally from say Mexico who just want a better life, instead of going to the fat slob US citizen sitting on her couch pumping out babies from multiple fathers who will never work a day in her life and just wants to milk the governments free ride. If that doesn't make sense to you, then there's nothing else to say.

Are there "bad people" here from Mexico? Of course, but they aren't much worse then a good chunk or US citizens who should be classified as domestic terrorists (see gangs). However, most people that I've met from Mexico are good, honest, hard working people just trying to make a good life for their families.

Personally, I've never had a bad encounter with a Hispanic individual. They have always been polite. My wife has dealt with many Hispanic families in Healthcare and says that a large majority are courteous and appreciate the care they are receiving. Also, most are strong family units.

That said, we do need immigration reform. I respect anyone who comes here legally. I just don't have any tolerance for illegals. They hurt our economic health and are clearly a major disruption to border states with large crime numbers.

This is why I was curious what Houdini has as a vision for handling the children of illegal immigrants. Believe it or not, I like to hear what others propose.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

How is he one of the best?

We have talked about why he is one of the worst in this thread. Nobody has backed up their statement that he is one of the best.

Exactly, I'm not going to waste my time typing out Obamas flaws for it to fall on deaf ears by blind sheep. It will be quoted and replied to with an Obama meme.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Maybe so, but where do you think the Left got the idea?
When so many on the Right ARE exactly that way, it's a pretty effective playbook, and it's not really been a priority of the Right to change that perception, so here we are.
Don't like it? Talk to your people.
Tell them to not be so racist, bigoted, and sexist and that playbook wouldn't be so effective.

That's funny, the majority vote on here is republican but you see the majority of the problem in this thread coming from the other side. But yeah, both sides has its own problems.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

Simple, if you say anything negative about Obama, the Dem side immediately calls you a racist. It's their easiest excuse to continue pushing their pro-Dem agenda. Race card trumps everything (no pun intended), and they use it every chance they get.

Sorry that hurts your feelings to the point where you feel the need to cry out in despair over it. There are actually professionals who can help you with that. When I am called something I am not, it doesn't bother me. No one whom I care about would believe it anyway, and if they did, I would simply show them that it wasn't true.
You can get there, too, but obviously, you've got a tremendous amount of work to do.
Good luck.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How is he one of the worst in history?

He makes them mad. Real mad. They don't like that. They like to pick and choose what to be mad at, and not have someone force their hand. There's only so much blunt anger to go around. It's very tiring to be that way all the time.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by davesportscards

how is he one of the best?

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

how is he one of the best?

We have talked about why he is one of the worst in this thread. Nobody has backed up their statement that he is one of the best.

Originally Posted by pingbling23

exactly, i'm not going to waste my time typing out obamas flaws for it to fall on deaf ears by blind sheep. It will be quoted and replied to with an obama meme.

Originally Posted by theheel

he did nothing except....

Health care reform, stimulus package for a destroyed economy by his predecessor, gave the go ahead to basically invade another country to kill the most wanted terrorist in the world (i should add if he made the wrong decision, he would have been scorched around the world), improved civil rights for all americans, carried out new laws to improve our environment, increased help for veterans (even though, imo, there is still much more to be done for servicemen/women), avoided scandal unlike many of the previous presidents, improved america's image around the world, education and energy reform, stock market doubled in 8 years, unemployment down....

Now, if trump is elected, be prepared for another war. Obama is diplomatic with these crazy leaders around the world. Imagine if trump and putin get into a verbal spar. Their egos will start ww3. Clinton is weak (for not leaving her cheating husband) but lesser of the two evils and she will hopefully carry on obamas vision.

Is he perfect? No
is he one of the best? Yes

should i go on with accomplishments?

This was just off the top of my head....

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[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Personally, I've never had a bad encounter with a Hispanic individual. They have always been polite. My wife has dealt with many Hispanic families in Healthcare and says that a large majority are courteous and appreciate the care they are receiving. Also, most are strong family units.

That said, we do need immigration reform. I respect anyone who comes here legally. I just don't have any tolerance for illegals. They hurt our economic health and are clearly a major disruption to border states with large crime numbers.

This is why I was curious what Houdini has as a vision for handling the children of illegal immigrants. Believe it or not, I like to hear what others propose.

I absolutely agree we need reform. Let me tell you a story of what I'm dealing with first hand. I have an employee who asked to take a year off to serve on a Mercy Ship in Africa. We of course said yes, so off she went. While there, she met a man on the ship, a Kenyan, who had been serving for a couple years. They hit it off and fell in love. She returned to the US after her year was up and came back to our company, he stayed and continued to serve. They kept their relationship going and she would fly back to visit him every few months. He finally asked her to marry him, she accepted, and her entire family flew to Kenya for the ceremony. They had to do it there as he could not come here, legally of course. They immediately filed the paperwork for him to come here legally, they want to live in the US and start a family. He has no criminal background, comes from a good family with no criminal history, hard working good man who gives back every chance he can in his country. There is no reason for him to be denied citizenship here, he's married to a US citizen, he has a full time job waiting for him here in the US, yet it's been almost two years and he can't get his citizenship approved by the US. I have to wonder, why is that? Hillary and Obama bring in thousands upon thousands of "refugees", yet this guy can't come here doing everything right by our legal system that is in place.

While I don't agree with illegal immigration, doesn't this make you understand a little bit why good honest people may say FU to the legal process and come here illegally? The system is so broken it's sick, and no one abuses the system more than our elected government. Whatever, the blind Dem's will just keep following the herd because that is what they are brain washed to do. They won't open their eyes and admit that their elected government is responsible for more illegals than anyone else, they just hide it by calling them refugees.

[pac213up]

It is hard to evaluate any President at this point when you have such a unbelievably useless Congress. Obama has been very average IMO. With that said he has been far better than the person before him and is currently at a 52% approval rating. I have a feeling, regardless of who is the next couple of Presidents, it is going to be difficult for them to really shine. The leadership of both parties is such an absolute mess. We pay far too much attention to the role of President and not enough on those really running the show.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

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Nice try, Heel, but a few pages from now, once he comes up again, we'll see more "why doesn't anyone ever list Obama's accomplishments" posts as though they haven't been listed repeatedly here already. Most of these guys don't even read dissenting posts, so you can see how they miss it, but it's a well-worn page in their playbook to say something wholly disproven or otherwise without merit, and then have three of four other dudes who do the same thing come in and tell them how smart they are. This is a big part of why they were so surprised by Obama's easy election victories. They only listen to each other, and as a result, they honestly believed Obama would lose in a landslide both times. Hearing these types talk about Trump being elected is music to my ears.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by pac213up

It is hard to evaluate any President at this point when you have such a unbelievably useless Congress. Obama has been very average IMO. With that said he has been far better than the person before him and is currently at a 52% approval rating. I have a feeling, regardless of who is the next couple of Presidents, it is going to be difficult for them to really shine. The leadership of both parties is such an absolute mess. We pay far too much attention to the role of President and not enough on those really running the show.

While we're talking approval rating, George w averaged 49% to obamas 47%.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Why are the children of illegals "entitled" to citizenship? You support deporting the parents but leaving the kids behind? Who will financially support the children?

Those are real questions, not ones to be confrontational. This is a very hot topic and the fact you support deportation but allowing children to stay has me curious.

Jus soli.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.

They are citizens regardless of their parentage. They may also have dual citizenship if their parents' country has jus sanguinis.

I didn't say I support leaving the kids behind - you said that. I said they are entitled to citizenship. They retain that citizenship whether they leave with their parents or not.

If I were deported my kids would be coming with me unless I felt that they were safer staying and I had family here to take them - but that is neither here nor there.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

While we're talking approval rating, George w averaged 49% to obamas 47%.

Can I see the data on that? I bet the September 11 skewed the percentage. I will be back to see if I can find something.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Can I see the data on that? I bet the September 11 skewed the percentage. I will be back to see if I can find something.

Research Gallup.com. It also shows blacks favor Obama 40-50% more over whites, 20-30% over Hispanics, and around 20% over non whites. Is this just due to skin color?

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Can I see the data on that? I bet the September 11 skewed the percentage. I will be back to see if I can find something.

And yes, George w was very high for several years due to the response to the terrorist attack. ended on a low note due to liberal media slamming him for the war although the majority of our military that know much more then we do supported the war.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

While we're talking approval rating, George w averaged 49% to obamas 47%.

After 8 years of Bush....what was it? People's opinion changed real quick once they realized Iraq was a lie and the economy went into freefall.