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[StrongandFree86]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Had to look up what Recon was. Not one that appeals to me but that seems like a crazy low price for something /8?!

Yeah, I'm not crazy about the Recon design itself, but I do really like the Lucky Envelopes. Hard to go wrong with a Zion RC /8 for that price in my opinion.

[JRuck504]

The Bronze Hometown Heroes I found on Facebook for $30 finally came in!!

Has a couple small 'chrome card' type dimples but overall I'm thrilled.

[22emmittfan]

Spaceman not sure if you saw couple optic autos ending tonight give you a good gauge on your gold

[RobbieD]

Wanted this card for quite a while.
I finally got one at a really decent price... stoked.
Card looks very clean, worth grading!?



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[regularp]

Originally Posted by RobbieD

Wanted this card for quite a while.
I finally got one at a really decent price... stoked.
Card looks very clean, worth grading!?



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It's always worth grading (at normal prices).

[22emmittfan]

Just got a notice from psa on an upcharge ��. Was supposed to be 75$ they gave me upcharge to $500. Will post pictures of the big fella when comes in. Not too upset at the upcharge but I don’t know what value they place on it at that price

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Just got a notice from psa on an upcharge ��. Was supposed to be 75$ they gave me upcharge to $500. Will post pictures of the big fella when comes in. Not too upset at the upcharge but I don’t know what value they place on it at that price

I've only gotten upcharged with group submissions, do they provide any sort of proof of updated value?

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Just got a notice from psa on an upcharge ��. Was supposed to be 75$ they gave me upcharge to $500. Will post pictures of the big fella when comes in. Not too upset at the upcharge but I don’t know what value they place on it at that price

sounds like a good problem to have. Super Express ($300) goes up to $5k DV, so I guess they're upping you to a higher value than that? Sweeeeet

[22emmittfan]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I've only gotten upcharged with group submissions, do they provide any sort of proof of updated value?

They did not, I did send an email asking why? My listed value was 1900 on it. Will be a pop of 1

[mcgee2134]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

They did not, I did send an email asking why? My listed value was 1900 on it. Will be a pop of 1

Walkthru costs $600 with a max value of $10K so PSA would value it between $5K-$10K.

[22emmittfan]

Little disappointed he didn’t make any of the three all nba teams. Wonder if he didn’t get hurt at end of season if he wouldn’t have made all nba third team

[mcgee2134]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Little disappointed he didn’t make any of the three all nba teams. Wonder if he didn’t get hurt at end of season if he wouldn’t have made all nba third team

Paul George over Zion!?! Must be because of his defense because Zion is twice the offensive player that PG is. Zion can lead a top 5 offense, PG is not even close to doing that.

[Spartyon]

Stan Van Gundy fired. Check!


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[brothertona]

3rd coach in his third season, that's good.

[22emmittfan]

Originally Posted by mcgee2134

Paul George over Zion!?! Must be because of his defense because Zion is twice the offensive player that PG is. Zion can lead a top 5 offense, PG is not even close to doing that.

Originally Posted by Spartyon

Stan Van Gundy fired. Check!


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Pg was the one I was thinking of too. Tatum had a great year and got left off. Lebron missed a good chunk of the season but he is Lebron. Thought Zion could have been at least third team. The only other one I don’t like is butler.

Svg gone no idea what they are doing there. The gm can’t fire himself but he should be next. Holiday makes all defense team in Milwaukee while Bledsoe makes all … all . Never mind.

Does next coach come in and make him point forward again? No idea who they should go after?

[Spartyon]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Pg was the one I was thinking of too. Tatum had a great year and got left off. Lebron missed a good chunk of the season but he is Lebron. Thought Zion could have been at least third team. The only other one I don’t like is butler.



Svg gone no idea what they are doing there. The gm can’t fire himself but he should be next. Holiday makes all defense team in Milwaukee while Bledsoe makes all … all . Never mind.



Does next coach come in and make him point forward again? No idea who they should go after?

No clue, but watching them choke away all those leads last year leads me to think SVG was part of the problem, not the solution. You don’t blow that many double digit leads with good coaching



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[rustywest]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Pg was the one I was thinking of too. Tatum had a great year and got left off. Lebron missed a good chunk of the season but he is Lebron. Thought Zion could have been at least third team. The only other one I don’t like is butler.

Svg gone no idea what they are doing there. The gm can’t fire himself but he should be next. Holiday makes all defense team in Milwaukee while Bledsoe makes all … all . Never mind.

Does next coach come in and make him point forward again? No idea who they should go after?

The team wasn't responding to Stan. That was plain to see. And look what the players were saying. He's too old school and the new NBA has passed him by. Perplexing hire, and the right move to to let him go sooner rather than later. Griffin is fine, he deserves more time.

I VERY MUCH like the idea of Jason Kidd (IF) they plan on keeping Lonzo. Lonzo has some Kidd inside him...

[bigjbasketball]

^ Kidd might be good. How about D’Antoni? He is in talks for a lot of head coaching jobs now.

[Spacemanspif]

I think someone like D’Antoni would be great for Zion. He’s the most humble, respectful young superstar right now and even if he disagreed with SVG he just kept his head down and did what he was told. D’Antoni would 100% form his strategies around the strengths of his players, along with turning the team into even more of a highlight factory than it is now

Here’s what I’d do:

1. Trade Ingram and Bledsoe for Fox, Hield, and Wright. I know people are high on Ingram but I don’t think he fits with Zion, and Fox is just as good a player and a much more fierce competitor. As an added bonus, you bring back one of the best shooters in the league while dumping Bledsoe’s horrible contract (also trading Ingram is the only way I could think of to dump Bledsoe). Sac then can build around Ingram / Halliburton / Bagley (lol) without having to deal with the inevitable “can Fox and Halliburton coexist?”


2. Trade Lonzo for Kelly Oubre. Both are in the last year of their deals so worth experimenting, and each could use a change of scenery. With my imaginary Fox trade above, Lonzo is expendable, and Oubre is exactly the type of athletic forward they need to pair with Zion. He’s obviously talented, just didn’t fit with Golden State and a good “buy low” candidate. Lonzo could provide the extra ball handling / playmaking the Warriors need when Curry is out or triple teamed.



3. Hire D’Antoni and have him unleash these guys. With a lineup of Fox / Hield / Oubre / Zion / Hayes, that’s probably one of the fastest lineups ever assembled. Adams’s salary was too ridiculous to try and line up in a trade but as an expiring could be a trade chip down the line

[regularp]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I think someone like D’Antoni would be great for Zion. He’s the most humble, respectful young superstar right now and even if he disagreed with SVG he just kept his head down and did what he was told. D’Antoni would 100% form his strategies around the strengths of his players, along with turning the team into even more of a highlight factory than it is now

Here’s what I’d do:

1. Trade Ingram and Bledsoe for Fox, Hield, and Wright. I know people are high on Ingram but I don’t think he fits with Zion, and Fox is just as good a player and a much more fierce competitor. As an added bonus, you bring back one of the best shooters in the league while dumping Bledsoe’s horrible contract (also trading Ingram is the only way I could think of to dump Bledsoe). Sac then can build around Ingram / Halliburton / Bagley (lol) without having to deal with the inevitable “can Fox and Halliburton coexist?”


2. Trade Lonzo for Kelly Oubre. Both are in the last year of their deals so worth experimenting, and each could use a change of scenery. With my imaginary Fox trade above, Lonzo is expendable, and Oubre is exactly the type of athletic forward they need to pair with Zion. He’s obviously talented, just didn’t fit with Golden State and a good “buy low” candidate. Lonzo could provide the extra ball handling / playmaking the Warriors need when Curry is out or triple teamed.



3. Hire D’Antoni and have him unleash these guys. With a lineup of Fox / Hield / Oubre / Zion / Hayes, that’s probably one of the fastest lineups ever assembled. Adams’s salary was too ridiculous to try and line up in a trade but as an expiring could be a trade chip down the line

This is such an utterly laughable trade proposal straight out of the Bill Simmons playbook. Why on earth would Sacramento make that deal?

[22emmittfan]

Zion named a finalist one of 57 for Olympic team

[ninjacookies]

Shoulda been all nba 3rd team. Now I love me some Jimmy Buckets and Pandemic P...but last year? Just lol. Rie missed over a quarter of the season...clearly a list assembled based on name power.

It's all gravy. Z isn't out for the accolades. He's just not that kinda dude. He's out for the big rangs.


Torn on the SVG firing. On one hand, he seemed like he was a bit throttled by that roster and some ill-fitting pieces. But I wasn't really feeling his offensive rotations half the time, and late game execution was absolutely deplorable.

Excited to see what 2022 holds. Hopefully some big eyebrow raising moves to come. The squad is young, but definitely could use a shake-up.

[hairyangryfella]

Been some interesting Chronicles sales recently, some poorly listed possible steals.
What's the hierarchy of that set? I assume Crusade is up there and the likes of Essentials and XR are at the bottom.

[Dame]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

^ Kidd might be good. How about D’Antoni? He is in talks for a lot of head coaching jobs now.

Kidd would be the worst choice for a player like Zion.

[YeahBuddy]

D'antoni would speed up a knee injury for Zion ...