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[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by Addison

"Textbook definition"

Saying someone is unfit for their position simply because of who they are is disgusting.

He has made countless sexist comments over the decades. If the judge were a woman, and he said she is unfit to do her job because of that, would that rhetoric not be sexist?

100% agreed, he's made many comments that are racist and can't be defended. Now, is any pro-Hillary Dem here going to agree that she is a criminal who should be in federal custody right now? Its sad that Dem's will stand behind their nominee and vote for her when she is a proven liar and committed criminal acts. It's like it doesn't matter to them, Dem for life no matter what. She's no better then her hubby who lied to the country when he was Pres. I don't know if there has ever been a man and woman more perfect for each other, and if elected, wouldn't shock me if she gets impeached too.

[Athey49]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Trump says Mexico not bringing their best, lists the worst. Media says Trump racist toward Mexican heritage, draws judge with Mexican heritage. Asks judge to recuse himself for conflict of interest, declared racist by you simply for the request.

You haven't provided a single quote of anything. Racially charged actions, inflammatory rhetoric, sexist analogy ... blah blah blah. A whole lot of nothing because there is nothing.

Former employees of Donald Trump have also accused the real estate mogul of racism. John R. O'Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, wrote in his 1991 book Trumped! that Trump frequently used racial slurs:


"And isn't it funny. I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

We obviously have different opinions on what is and what isn't racist. I mean you have google you're just being a troll at this point. If you're honestly going to legitimately argue that these things aren't racist and that he's not a bigot then there's really not a point of you and I discussing what is and what isn/t racist.

Donald Trump?s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained - Vox

I've read it. (The original from Fortune).

And there is no point of us arguing because as you say, I don't believe the man to be racist. I've never heard him say anything to the contrary, and the examples in that article are not ones of racism. He's not disparaging any ethnicity, he's not holding any race superior ... he's someone who in 50 years of his life has hired and fired thousands of people, built hundreds of businesses, filed a dozen bankruptcies and worked on hundreds of projects. Not every single person he encounters is going to give him a glowing review.

Hell, Houdini called me an awful, selfish human being who takes advantage of his friends for my own personal gain. We've never spoken on the phone, met in person ... but that was his assessment of me. Does that make it so? (I hope not).

Media just off and running, trying to justify it's conclusion with evidence, rather than the evidence speak for itself.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Trump says Mexico not bringing their best, lists the worst. Media says Trump racist toward Mexican heritage, draws judge with Mexican heritage. Asks judge to recuse himself for conflict of interest, declared racist by you simply for the request.

You haven't provided a single quote of anything. Racially charged actions, inflammatory rhetoric, sexist analogy ... blah blah blah. A whole lot of nothing because there is nothing.

The Judge is an American from Indiana. Again, what does his being of Mexican descent have anything to do with how how he performs his job?

Do you have proof that he has exercised any bias? I'll wait.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

100% agreed, he's made many comments that are racist and can't be defended. Now, is any pro-Hillary Dem here going to agree that she is a criminal who should be in federal custody right now? Its sad that Dem's will stand behind their nominee and vote for her when she is a proven liar and committed criminal acts. It's like it doesn't matter to them, Dem for life no matter what. She's no better then her hubby who lied to the country when he was Pres. I don't know if there has ever been a man and woman more perfect for each other, and if elected, wouldn't shock me if she gets impeached too.

I think she is unfit for office if that's any consolation.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

The Judge is an American from Indiana. Again, what does his being of Mexican descent have anything to do with how how he performs his job?

Do you have proof that he has exercised any bias? I'll wait.

It doesn't. and I have none. But asking a judge to recuse himself is not racist, on any grounds. If Trump had said "Comcast representatives never send their best" and the Media called out Trump for being cable-ist, and the judge was a noted Comcast subscriber, he would have asked him to recuse himself all the same.

Stupid, but not racist. He simply wanted him recused for his connection to the words Trump spoke earlier. The words spoken did not matter, the heritage did not matter. The connection matter to Trump (wrongly).

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by houdini

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

Huffington Post, of course. Every single one is an opinion, not a fact.

Not a single valid example. I love #4 too "Refused to condemn white nationalist support". Already been discussed in this thread but he's condemned David Duke five separate times since 1991. I wonder how many times it takes before Huff Po acknowledges it happened.

Number 5 is funny too. Questioning where the President was born means he's racist. Classic.

Number 11, uses black people as tokens ... HA.

I bet Huffington Post wrote that same article 100 different ways too.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by Addison

I think she is unfit for office if that's any consolation.

Why?
What has she done to make her unfit?
Where is the same passion to attack her as you have for any Republican?

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It doesn't. and I have none. But asking a judge to recuse himself is not racist, on any grounds. If Trump had said "Comcast representatives never send their best" and the Media called out Trump for being cable-ist, and the judge was a noted Comcast subscriber, he would have asked him to recuse himself all the same.

Stupid, but not racist. He simply wanted him recused for his connection to the words Trump spoke earlier. The words spoken did not matter, the heritage did not matter. The connection matter to Trump (wrongly).

Trying to equate private sector cable providers to race in your analogy is pretty weak.

And so what if he subscribes to Comcast, it still doesn't mean he can't do his job. And the fact Trump would call for him to step down because he thinks his background or this case cable provider choice by definition makes him biased. It doesn't unless there is proof to the contrary which of course there is not.

Again, "textbook definition" of a racist comment. Not my words.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by corndog

Why?
What has she done to make her unfit?
Where is the same passion to attack her as you have for any Republican?

Voting for the Iraq war.
Emails.
Corruption.

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by corndog

Why?
What has she done to make her unfit?
Where is the same passion to attack her as you have for any Republican?

He doesn't have to have passion, he already said way more than most pro-Hillary people in this thread have. The fact that he even said she is unfit proves he has an open mind and will at least listen to both sides whether he agrees or not. Unlike the wonder twins in this thread who when asked questions just ignore and move on to their next personal agenda.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

Trying to equate private sector cable providers to race in your analogy is pretty weak.

And so what if he subscribes to Comcast, it still doesn't mean he can't do his job. And the fact Trump would call for him to step down because he thinks his background or this case cable provider choice by definition makes him biased. It doesn't unless there is proof to the contrary which of course there is not.

Again, "textbook definition" of a racist comment. Not my words.

Yea, the words of Paul Ryan, noted fan of Donald Trump.

To be racist, you would have to convince me that Trump is specifically asking this judge to recuse himself because Trump does not like people of Mexican Heritage, or thinks people of Mexican Heritage should not be judges. I don't believe that to be true. I believe if Trump came down that escalator and said what he said about country or race X, and the judge he received was of the same race ... then he would have asked him to recuse himself.

The race of the judge only mattered because it was connected to the media rampage. Could have been Italian, German, Jewish, Irish ... whatever and if Trumps first words matched the ethnicity of his judge, he would have done exactly what he did for this judge.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by houdini

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.

You can pretend he isn't racist. It doesn't bother me any. Just like people calling Hillary a criminal - that doesn't bother me any.

Hillary is a liar - no doubt.

If you want to support Trump, own it. Stop pretending he is not a racist. Own it.

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

I think all illegal immigrants should be deported. All of them. If they have children here though, those children are entitled to citizenship.

Why are the children of illegals "entitled" to citizenship? You support deporting the parents but leaving the kids behind? Who will financially support the children?

Those are real questions, not ones to be confrontational. This is a very hot topic and the fact you support deportation but allowing children to stay has me curious.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Why are the children of illegals "entitled" to citizenship? You support deporting the parents but leaving the kids behind? Who will financially support the children?

Those are real questions, not ones to be confrontational. This is a very hot topic and the fact you support deportation but allowing children to stay has me curious.

The 14th Amendment of the Constitution. Perhaps give it a read some time.

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Why are the children of illegals "entitled" to citizenship? You support deporting the parents but leaving the kids behind? Who will financially support the children?

Those are real questions, not ones to be confrontational. This is a very hot topic and the fact you support deportation but allowing children to stay has me curious.

Even if it wasn't constitutional, it's called having a heart (in my opinion). They are children, that should be good enough for most human beings.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Addison

The 14th Amendment of the Constitution. Perhaps give it a read some time.

Except that doesn't address ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Big difference, in my opinion and that of others, that if you shouldnt be here to begin with those rights do not apply.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

Even if it wasn't constitutional, it's called having a heart (in my opinion). They are children, that should be good enough for most human beings.

And that that point I'd say visit me in the "controversial topics" thread so we can discuss abortion.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Except that doesn't address ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Big difference, in my opinion and that of others, that if you shouldnt be here to begin with those rights do not apply.

It's a shame your opinions don't override the Constitution doesn't it...?

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

And that that point I'd say visit me in the "controversial topics" thread so we can discuss abortion.

Fair enough. But if I had a choice as to where my tax dollars go, I'd rather it went to help children here illegally from say Mexico who just want a better life, instead of going to the fat slob US citizen sitting on her couch pumping out babies from multiple fathers who will never work a day in her life and just wants to milk the governments free ride. If that doesn't make sense to you, then there's nothing else to say.

Are there "bad people" here from Mexico? Of course, but they aren't much worse then a good chunk or US citizens who should be classified as domestic terrorists (see gangs). However, most people that I've met from Mexico are good, honest, hard working people just trying to make a good life for their families.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by houdini

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.

You can pretend he isn't racist. It doesn't bother me any. Just like people calling Hillary a criminal - that doesn't bother me any.

Hillary is a liar - no doubt.

If you want to support Trump, own it. Stop pretending he is not a racist. Own it.

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

I think all illegal immigrants should be deported. All of them. If they have children here though, those children are entitled to citizenship.

Huffington Post. That's funny.

[TheHeel]

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

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The fact you post his pictures in this thread all the time speaks volumes on how bad of a president he is.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

The fact you post his pictures in this thread all the time speaks volumes on how bad of a president he is.

Your statement makes zero sense but alrighty then.

Best President in the last 50 years. In the end, he will be listed as top 5-10.

[CrownCollector]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

In the end, he will be listed as top 5-10.

Attachment 345591

Sure, depending on who you poll of course. I can twist numbers and prove every President is top 5 all time, just by asking the right people who fit their agenda.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by CrownCollector

Sure, depending on who you poll of course. I can twist numbers and prove every President is top 5 all time, just by asking the right people who fit their agenda.