2015 Prospect Rush Draft Hit Parade

[preakness]

Originally Posted by izybone

There was a lot more value in that box than just that one card.


Pretty sure he meant box.

My bad. Yes, meant box.
So even with the "a lot more value in that box" would you argue that it approached 5K, 6K? 4? 9K? in total value?

In regards to the Kershaw auto, it sounds like it was from an unopened pack.

Sure PR added that pack in there but let's not try to make it seem like he specifically added a nice Kershaw auto

[preakness]

Originally Posted by Cubs_rock21

It's a group break product all day! Great for risk takers! I will buy into every Houdini break of this product until it's gone

Do you buy 1 slot per break?
just curious how many slots a typical person buys when they buy in for $9.01

[Cubs_rock21]

Originally Posted by preakness

Do you buy 1 slot per break?
just curious how many slots a typical person buys when they buy in for $9.01

Yes last one I did, but I'm going to buy a few in each the next break. I love the repacks. I did some team drafts on blowoutTV for a couple boxes also.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by T3sT

Which seal? If it's PR sticker on the cardboard box, houdini broke it when he is joking while checked the seal before the video is saved. I watch it live and all seal is normal.

And the other 2 seals that this dolt company purchased on the inner box can come off with ZERO security.

While houdini didnt do crap and to suggest so is comical this product has some serious security issues. All one has to do is obtain the few seals from some online company and clean out the boxes. It has come to my attention that ALL SEALS on this box can be ordered online, even the one which says PR name.

The ones on the plastic "box" come off with no residue left behind if you take 2 seconds to be carefu and the outer one can be bought for cents if you order 100.

[T3sT]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

And the other 2 seals that this dolt company purchased on the inner box can come off with ZERO security.

While houdini didnt do crap and to suggest so is comical this product has some serious security issues. All one has to do is obtain the few seals from some online company and clean out the boxes. It has come to my attention that ALL SEALS on this box can be ordered online, even the one which says PR name.

The ones on the plastic "box" come off with no residue left behind if you take 2 seconds to be carefu and the outer one can be bought for cents if you order 100.

I agree.. that plenty void sticker on the pelican case is comical and the s/n sticker just didn't stick with pelican box.

as vinny stated best

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Unfortunately not odd after watching a bunch of breaks. PR didn't do a good job on the stickers because those Pelican cases have a kind of non-stick surface. Almost every box has loose stickers.
Dare I say he was in a rush and took those type stickers and the boxes for granted.

Vinny

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by T3sT

I agree.. that plenty void sticker on the pelican case is comical and the s/n sticker just didn't stick with pelican box.

as vinny stated best

I agree. And considering people make these all over the internet the one on the cardboard box can be had also. Lets be honest the person making them will not know who PR is and make them with no hesitation. So all are easily replaceable sadly for the consumer.

[Rooftop]

Originally Posted by houdini

So let me get this straight - just to be clear - you think I am such a big scumbag that I actually somehow obtained the Noah Syndergaard superfractor auto and then added it to this case...

That would be a genius move since the product has been trashed every day since the first break and the only breaks filling are mine at $9.01. So, I added a ~$5k (guess) card to this box to what purpose? What do I supposedly gain from such an action?

Also, I think it is funny that your genius theory has me adding a $5k card to the box through unscrupulous means (for what purpose)... but not keeping it. If I am so untrustworthy, why wouldn't I keep it?

Chillax

I didn't accuse you of anything. I just said it was odd that the sticker that is supposed to act as a seal did not work properly. Was this fault of the PR? Probably so. You would think that someone that charges 8k for crap product could afford a freakin sticker that actually does what it was supposed to do.

I'm on the record with others that think this type of product is a cancer to the hobby. It's junk. I get your position as a 'breaker'. I doubt you could care less if it PR, draft, or graded sets that you are breaking. Break it and ship it. You are very good at what you do and I have no beef with you, its the product I do not care for.

I'm not a fan of how this whole deal PR Draft went down. ML starts a thread claiming to be regular Joe that is going to break 250 cases. Stating that he got such a great price point that it was worth the gamble. He was willing to sell cards to individuals to help fill their needs. Halfway thru, somebody figures out that ML was behind PR. Game changer. Now, nothing is for sell. It turned into self promoting, 'look at what I just hit'. Everyone knows the rest of the story from here.

All repack products are open for corruption. I think we can agree on that. When PR numbered the boxes on the outside it makes it more suspicious. Is it possible that PR knows what numbered boxes have what cards in them? Sure it is. Is it possible that he knows what cases contain said boxes. I'd say that is possible? Is it possible to remove stickers to open boxes to see what #'s are on each box? Yes, that was proven last night. Is it possible that BO sent known hot boxes to you to break? Possible. I will stop there.

I do not think you would purchase a card and insert into a PR box. That makes no sense. I and others just question the timing of the hit. Coincidence? Possible

[DSizzle31]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Chillax

I didn't accuse you of anything. I just said it was odd that the sticker that is supposed to act as a seal did not work properly. Was this fault of the PR? Probably so. You would think that someone that charges 8k for crap product could afford a freakin sticker that actually does what it was supposed to do.

I'm on the record with others that think this type of product is a cancer to the hobby. It's junk. I get your position as a 'breaker'. I doubt you could care less if it PR, draft, or graded sets that you are breaking. Break it and ship it. You are very good at what you do and I have no beef with you, its the product I do not care for.

I'm not a fan of how this whole deal PR Draft went down. ML starts a thread claiming to be regular Joe that is going to break 250 cases. Stating that he got such a great price point that it was worth the gamble. He was willing to sell cards to individuals to help fill their needs. Halfway thru, somebody figures out that ML was behind PR. Game changer. Now, nothing is for sell. It turned into self promoting, 'look at what I just hit'. Everyone knows the rest of the story from here.

All repack products are open for corruption. I think we can agree on that. When PR numbered the boxes on the outside it makes it more suspicious. Is it possible that PR knows what numbered boxes have what cards in them? Sure it is. Is it possible that he knows what cases contain said boxes. I'd say that is possible? Is it possible to remove stickers to open boxes to see what #'s are on each box? Yes, that was proven last night. Is it possible that BO sent known hot boxes to you to break? Possible. I will stop there.

I do not think you would purchase a card and insert into a PR box. That makes no sense. I and others just question the timing of the hit. Coincidence? Possible

Are you serious? It wasn't "figured out" that ML was behind PR halfway through the 250 case break. ML has been a member here for years and has released two other series of PR. This is common knowledge.

If you're gonna trash a guy, at least get your facts straight so you look like a bit less of a fool.

[mickdapug]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Chillax

I didn't accuse you of anything. I just said it was odd that the sticker that is supposed to act as a seal did not work properly. Was this fault of the PR? Probably so. You would think that someone that charges 8k for crap product could afford a freakin sticker that actually does what it was supposed to do.

I'm on the record with others that think this type of product is a cancer to the hobby. It's junk. I get your position as a 'breaker'. I doubt you could care less if it PR, draft, or graded sets that you are breaking. Break it and ship it. You are very good at what you do and I have no beef with you, its the product I do not care for.

I'm not a fan of how this whole deal PR Draft went down. ML starts a thread claiming to be regular Joe that is going to break 250 cases. Stating that he got such a great price point that it was worth the gamble. He was willing to sell cards to individuals to help fill their needs. Halfway thru, somebody figures out that ML was behind PR. Game changer. Now, nothing is for sell. It turned into self promoting, 'look at what I just hit'. Everyone knows the rest of the story from here.

All repack products are open for corruption. I think we can agree on that. When PR numbered the boxes on the outside it makes it more suspicious. Is it possible that PR knows what numbered boxes have what cards in them? Sure it is. Is it possible that he knows what cases contain said boxes. I'd say that is possible? Is it possible to remove stickers to open boxes to see what #'s are on each box? Yes, that was proven last night. Is it possible that BO sent known hot boxes to you to break? Possible. I will stop there.

I do not think you would purchase a card and insert into a PR box. That makes no sense. I and others just question the timing of the hit. Coincidence? Possible

This post is TRASH...just loaded with stupidity!!!

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Chillax

I didn't accuse you of anything. I just said it was odd that the sticker that is supposed to act as a seal did not work properly. Was this fault of the PR? Probably so. You would think that someone that charges 8k for crap product could afford a freakin sticker that actually does what it was supposed to do.

I'm on the record with others that think this type of product is a cancer to the hobby. It's junk. I get your position as a 'breaker'. I doubt you could care less if it PR, draft, or graded sets that you are breaking. Break it and ship it. You are very good at what you do and I have no beef with you, its the product I do not care for.

I'm not a fan of how this whole deal PR Draft went down. ML starts a thread claiming to be regular Joe that is going to break 250 cases. Stating that he got such a great price point that it was worth the gamble. He was willing to sell cards to individuals to help fill their needs. Halfway thru, somebody figures out that ML was behind PR. Game changer. Now, nothing is for sell. It turned into self promoting, 'look at what I just hit'. Everyone knows the rest of the story from here.

All repack products are open for corruption. I think we can agree on that. When PR numbered the boxes on the outside it makes it more suspicious. Is it possible that PR knows what numbered boxes have what cards in them? Sure it is. Is it possible that he knows what cases contain said boxes. I'd say that is possible? Is it possible to remove stickers to open boxes to see what #'s are on each box? Yes, that was proven last night. Is it possible that BO sent known hot boxes to you to break? Possible. I will stop there.

I do not think you would purchase a card and insert into a PR box. That makes no sense. I and others just question the timing of the hit. Coincidence? Possible

A) you seem to know nothing about this forum or the history of it's users and
B) No one forced anyone to buy PR. People bought it from their own greed chasing what they saw as something they could possibly profit off of.

I wish this happened more often maybe people would actually research products instead of just throwing money at it hoping to hit a quick profit.

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by trixstar

A) you seem to know nothing about this forum or the history of it's users and
B) No one forced anyone to buy PR. People bought it from their own greed chasing what they saw as something they could possibly profit off of.

I wish this happened more often maybe people would actually research products instead of just throwing money at it hoping to hit a quick profit.

It's happening again with the Sportkings repack.

A fool and his money . . .

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by Cubs_rock21

It's a group break product all day! Great for risk takers! I will buy into every Houdini break of this product until it's gone

5000th post of the thread deserves to be quoted

I agree with your assessment as well. I do enjoy the thread as a whole. Tin foil hats and all.

[T3sT]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

It's happening again with the Sportkings repack.

A fool and his money . . .

more and more BO member are jumping into repacker, ML, cstampa (pastime), and mwheeler

more will follow in the future i think, this is the best way to clear inventory while making money lol

oh... and cstampa is no longer active in this forum (and maybe ML will follow)

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by T3sT

more and more BO member are jumping into repacker, ML, cstampa (pastime), and mwheeler

more will follow in the future i think, this is the best way to clear inventory while making money lol

oh... and cstampa is no longer active in this forum (and maybe ML will follow)

Maybe??? I think it's more likely Haiku comes back here with "beats for everyone" than PR ever posts here again.

How can he justify posting again after putting out this garbage and then disappearing? What could he possibly say? "My internet was out last summer but I'm back to break cases of 2015 Draft?"

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

Maybe??? I think it's more likely Haiku comes back here with "beats for everyone" than PR ever posts here again.

How can he justify posting again after putting out this garbage and then disappearing? What could he possibly say? "My internet was out last summer but I'm back to break cases of 2015 Draft?"

He's just the shepherd with his flock of sheep. He'll be back and the sheep will follow.

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by trixstar

He's just the shepherd with his flock of sheep. He'll be back and the sheep will follow.

I understand what you are saying, but seriously, how can he return and have any credibility? He pimps his product for months as the greatest ever. He is on here non-stop. Updates daily, etc. Then as soon as it releases and people see it's complete garbage, he never shows his face again. I would have to think he would at some point in time have to justify his disappearing act.

In conclusion, if there is a Prospect Rush 4 and it sells ANY boxes, I think I'm going to give up on humanity...or at least on people in the BO forum.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I understand what you are saying, but seriously, how can he return and have any credibility? He pimps his product for months as the greatest ever. He is on here non-stop. Updates daily, etc. Then as soon as it releases and people see it's complete garbage, he never shows his face again. I would have to think he would at some point in time have to justify his disappearing act.

In conclusion, if there is a Prospect Rush 4 and it sells ANY boxes, I think I'm going to give up on humanity...or at least on people in the BO forum.

I honestly don't remember the first or 2nd release, were they not similar in nature to this one?

[wheeler281]

Will is like a good car salesman. Difference he put it all in writing here on the forum. Never put anything in writing. At least that what we were told when I worked summers between semesters(back in the day) lol

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Will is like a good car salesman. Difference he put it all in writing here on the forum. Never put anything in writing. At least that what we were told when I worked summers between semesters(back in the day) lol

LOL...I am a car salesman. I put everything in writing and stand behind everything I say. If I promise you a price of $28K and it should have been $29K (I made an error,) we stand by $28K.

Please don't offend car salesmen by putting them in league with Will! We don't take kindly to that!

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I honestly don't remember the first or 2nd release, were they not similar in nature to this one?

Yes, but they were at about 10% of the price point. Increase the stakes...increase the ill feelings.

[chezball]

The people who make these type products will now be known as "Repack Burglars"

[illadelf]

Once more, from the 250 Case Thread...

Originally Posted by Prospect Rush

EDIT: I do care what people think, to me reputation and character are all we have. While some prefer to ignore the critics, I prefer to be up front and listen to what customers want. At times it would be easier to just ignore what's said about me and my company, hiding is not my style.

[Cubsfanp]

This Parade turned into a Mob a very long time ago.

[theRLO]

Originally Posted by illadelf

Once more, from the 250 Case Thread...

Originally Posted by Prospect Rush

Believe as you wish, I'm not a liar. I felt my post laid it out pretty clearly a couple weeks ago, this hobby amazes me. Feel free to set up the lie detector test and I'll make myself available. I suppose I could post all the PM's about the break and the plans I had for it prior to the Rush 3 announcement, I simply need to keep working. As I mentioned in the other post those close to me in this hobby know the truth, for me that's what matters.

EDIT: I do care what people think, to me reputation and character are all we have. While some prefer to ignore the critics, I prefer to be up front and listen to what customers want. At times it would be easier to just ignore what's said about me and my company, hiding is not my style.

[izybone]

Originally Posted by illadelf

Once more, from the 250 Case Thread...

I honestly don't think he's hiding. If you want to contact him there are several ways to do so. He's just not posting. Hiding would be making no contact whatsoever, and not showing up at the National.

He gains nothing by posting in this thread. You guys would be all over him like a pack of hyenas. If he does post in this thread it will be with info pertaining to the product and not to respond to the vultures.