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[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It is, and here's a whopper for you.

Did you know the KKK actually endorsed Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump? All this blah blah blah about David Duke commenting on Trump policy speeches, and it's actually Clinton whom the organization has come out and endorsed. But the media goes "Shhhhhhh".

Classic. All we will get is deflections or weak excuses just like they do every time.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Yup, every-time David Duke writes something about Trump. the media goes crazy "Disavow, Disavow" "You see, the KKK loves him cause he's racist". But someone actually in the KKK says they endorse Hillary Clinton, and I guarantee most people don't even know who William Quigg is, and when this happened. Where are all of the "Disavow, Disavow" calls for Clinton?

Type in William Quigg, Clinton into Google vs. David Duke, Trump ... and you'll find 100 articles about Trump for every 1 on Clinton. And Quigg is the guy actually in the KKK.

False equivalency.

If Quigg was supporting Clinton for racial reasons or if he said she'd be good for the white cause and provided justifications for it, it would have gotten more coverage. Just because some grand wizard cartoon thinks Hilary is secret Hitler, it is more of a novelty than anything worth covering.

So is the implication Hilary is secretly a racist? No.

Trump has said many things that are viewed as racist. He had an opportunity to disapprove of KKK support which he punted.

Trump may receive less % of the Black vote than segregationist George Wallace.

Clinton may be a center right/neocon corportist democrat but she isn't an uber conservative running a southern strategy. She has overwhelming support of the black population which was demonstrated in the primaries and will further be shown during the national election.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

False equivalency.

If Quigg was supporting Clinton for racial reasons or if he said she'd be good for the white cause and provided justifications for it, it would have gotten more coverage. Just because some grand wizard cartoon thinks Hilary is secret Hitler, it is more of a novelty than anything worth covering.

So is the implication Hilary is secretly a racist? No.

Trump has said many things that are viewed as racist. He had an opportunity to disapprove of KKK support which he punted.

Trump may receive less % of the Black vote than segregationist George Wallace.

Clinton may be a center right/neocon corportist democrat but she isn't an uber conservative running a southern strategy. She has overwhelming support of the black population which was demonstrated in the primaries and will further be shown during the national election.

Wrong. Donald Trump disavowed the KKK within 48 hours of David Duke speaking out for the first time in favor of his campaign. Even CNN reported as such ... and the quotes are clear.

Donald Trump denounces David Duke, KKK - CNNPolitics.com

William Quigg, someone actually a member of the KKK unlike David Duke, threw an endorsement to Clinton 6 months ago. Where's your link for Clinton's disavow? (Save your time, there isn't one).

But it's clear you're uninformed, because you suggested Donald Trump is "Uber Conservative". Trump is the least Conservative Republican Nominee in the history of the World. I'm not sure why you would even say such a thing, it's ridiculous.

[NeedChapmans]

Damn me for quoting the Washington Post, but there's a timeline of Trump and David Duke from interviews. 1991, 2000, 2015 ... all times Donald Trump has said "I don't want David Duke's endorsement, he's a bad guy" ...

How many times does the guy have to say he wants nothing to do w/ him? Seriously.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cord/#comments

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Wrong. Donald Trump disavowed the KKK within 48 hours of David Duke speaking out for the first time in favor of his campaign. Even CNN reported as such ... and the quotes are clear.

Donald Trump denounces David Duke, KKK - CNNPolitics.com

William Quigg, someone actually a member of the KKK unlike David Duke, threw an endorsement to Clinton 6 months ago. Where's your link for Clinton's disavow? (Save your time, there isn't one).

But it's clear you're uninformed, because you suggested Donald Trump is "Uber Conservative". Trump is the least Conservative Republican Nominee in the history of the World. I'm not sure why you would even say such a thing, it's ridiculous.

Much like when Sandusky was asked if he was attracted to young boys and didn't respond immediately with "no" when Trump was asked if he rejected white supremacists groups, he plead ignorance. If your first reaction isn't no, that's unnerving.

Where did I claim Trump was Uber Conservative?

George Wallace was an Uber Conservative who ran a Southern strategy.

And again, if there was legitimate concern for Hil being a closet racist, the story would have gotten traction. Just because some dragon wizard wants to throw a political unfounded hail mary that she is actually Hitler (and what, do a genocide?) then that's his choice but in the eyes of Black people, she has nothing to defend herself of unlike her opponent.

She has plenty to defend herself of, but being a racist is not one.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

Much like when Sandusky was asked if he was attracted to young boys and didn't respond immediately with "no" when Trump was asked if he rejected white supremacists groups, he plead ignorance. If your first reaction isn't no, that's unnerving.

Where did I claim Trump was Uber Conservative?

George Wallace was an Uber Conservative who ran a Southern strategy.

And again, if there was legitimate concern for Hil being a closet racist, the story would have gotten traction. Just because some dragon wizard wants to throw a political unfounded hail mary that she is actually Hitler (and what, do a genocide?) then that's his choice but in the eyes of Black people, she has nothing to defend herself of unlike her opponent.

She has plenty to defend herself of, but being a racist is not one.

You don't even know what you said 10 minutes ago. Awesome. Clinton may be a center right/neocon corportist democrat but she isn't an uber conservative running a southern strategy

And Trump if you read the link I showed you, Trump had disavowed David Duke at minimum, three separate times already over the last 30 years. Even so, thousands of articles have been written just in the last few months tying Duke to Trump, with no basis for fact whatsoever.

But a current leader in the KKK throws support to Clinton, and one-one cares. Trump repeadedly says David Duke is a horrible guy, wants nothing to do w/ him, and the media eats up anything Duke says. 12 hours ago, Huff Po all over it.

David Duke And His Pals Loved Trump's Immigration Speech

No basis in fact of any kind, but the media just pummels us with all of this non-sense, everyday.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

You don't even know what you said 10 minutes ago. Awesome. Clinton may be a center right/neocon corportist democrat but she isn't an uber conservative running a southern strategy

And Trump if you read the link I showed you, Trump had disavowed David Duke at minimum, three separate times already over the last 30 years. Even so, thousands of articles have been written just in the last few months tying Duke to Trump, with no basis for fact whatsoever.

But a current leader in the KKK throws support to Clinton, and one-one cares. Trump repeadedly says David Duke is a horrible guy, wants nothing to do w/ him, and the media eats up anything Duke says. 12 hours ago, Huff Po all over it.

David Duke And His Pals Loved Trump's Immigration Speech

No basis in fact of any kind, but the media just pummels us with all of this non-sense, everyday.

I was likening Uber conservatism to George Wallace, if that wasn't clear, fine.

If he has been against him for so long, why did he pretend like he doesn't know in that interview?

Simple. He wasn't sure how to answer because he didn't want to alienate any support in a heated primary. It was a political coin flip. Say no and lose support or so yes and lose support. He plead ignorance and deflected.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Addison

I was likening Uber conservatism to George Wallace, if that wasn't clear, fine.

If he has been against him for so long, why did he pretend like he doesn't know in that interview?

Simple. He wasn't sure how to answer because he didn't want to alienate any support in a heated primary. It was a political coin flip. Say no and lose support or so yes and lose support. He plead ignorance and deflected.

At no point, has he ever said anything positive about David Duke. Interviewed time and time again, disavowed time and time again. Over the course of 25 years, multiple times, he's not once said "I like him, I respect him, I want him on my side". And because the 4th time he was asked to disavow David Duke while running a primary, you believe he was doing it intentionally even though immediately after, he disavows yet again.

Simply doesn't make sense. The same way I agree w/ you that an endorsement from a CURRENT KKK leader holds *no water for Clinton. But the point is, the media is covering one 1,000,000 harder than the other. In the same way they cover whites killing blacks a million times more than the reverse ... they pour it on as thick as possible, to influence as many voters as they can to vote blue, without providing honest, factual reporting.

[xbignick]

What an idiot.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by xbignick

What an idiot.

Technically my grandparents were illegal immigrants from Sweden. Should all post-grandparents be deported as well? I'd argue my entire family isn't legal, but who the hell knows.

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Technically my grandparents were illegal immigrants from Sweden. Should all post-grandparents be deported as well? I'd argue my entire family isn't legal, but who the hell knows.

Oh I don't care about the actual issue, it's him being offended by the term and then being pushed like a kid to admit the guy is correct.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by xbignick

What an idiot.

Feel the Johnson

[chezball]

Obama Has Granted More pardons Than the Past 6 Presidents Combined

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

At no point, has he ever said anything positive about David Duke. Interviewed time and time again, disavowed time and time again. Over the course of 25 years, multiple times, he's not once said "I like him, I respect him, I want him on my side". And because the 4th time he was asked to disavow David Duke while running a primary, you believe he was doing it intentionally even though immediately after, he disavows yet again.

Simply doesn't make sense. The same way I agree w/ you that an endorsement from a CURRENT KKK leader holds *no water for Clinton. But the point is, the media is covering one 1,000,000 harder than the other. In the same way they cover whites killing blacks a million times more than the reverse ... they pour it on as thick as possible, to influence as many voters as they can to vote blue, without providing honest, factual reporting.

The media is hard to take seriously anymore. It is best to watch videos on what exactly Clinton or Trump say. You are correct that the media jumps on Trump 10 fold compared to Clinton. Hopefully Americas are getting wise to the manipulation of the media. I will say that the information Wikileaks has leaked should be an eye opener for Americans, but then again Debbie Wasserman Schultz won her primary. "You can't fix stupid" Ron White

Media justify anti-Trump bias, claim he's too 'dangerous' for normal rules | Fox News

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by chezball

Obama Has Granted More pardons Than the Past 6 Presidents Combined

Such a shame. Found this story below. Wonder how many more innocent lives will be lost.

Crack Dealer Freed Early Under Obama Plan Murders Woman, 2 Kids - Judicial Watch

[Panthersfans]

Originally Posted by xbignick

What an idiot.

Do not use the word illegal! ......... But when they came in to the country it was not legal......

I thought he was going to punch the reporter for a second there. Seriously though I've never seen a clip of Johnson before so I guess it's unfair to base who he is on one clip but he seems a little unhinged.

[ensbergcollecto]

Originally Posted by xbignick

What an idiot.

looks like someones word of the day calendar taught him incendiary that day

[chezball]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Such a shame. Found this story below. Wonder how many more innocent lives will be lost.

Crack Dealer Freed Early Under Obama Plan Murders Woman, 2 Kids - Judicial Watch

Where's the media on this story, seems like important news to me.
271 days since hillary's last press conference.

[thebrett]

Just checking in to make sure people still passionate and convicted

As expected the conclusion jumping, slope slipping and conspiracy curtain peeking are on point today

Nice work everyone

Hopefully by November the entire country can be discussing the KKK, which color lives matter to what level and e-mail.

I would hate it if the ridiculously complex tax code, underperforming relative to the world / resource structure educational system or small business growth became front page news.

Does anyone know who the Kardashian's are endorsing?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by thebrett

Just checking in to make sure people still passionate and convicted

As expected the conclusion jumping, slope slipping and conspiracy curtain peeking are on point today

Nice work everyone

Hopefully by November the entire country can be discussing the KKK, which color lives matter to what level and e-mail.

I would hate it if the ridiculously complex tax code, underperforming relative to the world / resource structure educational system or small business growth became front page news.

Does anyone know who the Kardashian's are endorsing?

Kanye for President

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by chezball

Where's the media on this story, seems like important news to me.
271 days since hillary's last press conference.

Well the story is over 6 months old and not completely spin free.

Was he released early? Yes

Was he scheduled to be released early under the Bush administration? Yes

Was he scheduled to be released 10 months earlier than his previous early release date under the Obama administration? Yes

Would he have killed the people even if under the Obama administration the U.S. Sentencing Commission didn't rectify the sentencing disparities between dealers who sold crack and those who dealt powdered cocaine? Probably


Dating back to 2006 before he was arrested on federal drug charges:

"...a Columbus police report from 2006, taken while Callahan’s federal case was pending, Hammonds said that he had beaten and choked her so severely that she thought he “would have killed her if (a) good Samaritan didn’t pass by.”

I hope you and the original poster of this weren't trying to insinuate that President Obama is responsible for this triple-murder. That would be pretty ignorant of both of you.

Regardless, what do you mean by "Where's the media on this story?" The media did cover it back in January when it happened. That's how you know about it.

Why is this important news? People die everyday.

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by Panthersfans

Do not use the word illegal! ......... But when they came in to the country it was not legal......

I thought he was going to punch the reporter for a second there. Seriously though I've never seen a clip of Johnson before so I guess it's unfair to base who he is on one clip but he seems a little unhinged.

someone tell him technically Hispanic is a racist term

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Well the story is over 6 months old and not completely spin free.

Was he released early? Yes

Was he scheduled to be released early under the Bush administration? Yes

Was he scheduled to be released 10 months earlier than his previous early release date under the Obama administration? Yes

Would he have killed the people even if under the Obama administration the U.S. Sentencing Commission didn't rectify the sentencing disparities between dealers who sold crack and those who dealt powdered cocaine? Probably


Dating back to 2006 before he was arrested on federal drug charges:

"...a Columbus police report from 2006, taken while Callahan’s federal case was pending, Hammonds said that he had beaten and choked her so severely that she thought he “would have killed her if (a) good Samaritan didn’t pass by.”

I hope you and the original poster of this weren't trying to insinuate that President Obama is responsible for this triple-murder. That would be pretty ignorant of both of you.

Regardless, what do you mean by "Where's the media on this story?" The media did cover it back in January when it happened. That's how you know about it.

Why is this important news? People die everyday.

Considering he was one of many people to be considered non-violent which in fact is not true. I am sure this will not be the only case, yes it is older, but I thought relevant since President Obama continues to release criminals back in to society.

Once the 2010 law went into effect the sentences of inmates convicted of crack-related crimes were recalculated to make them more like today's sentencing guidelines.

This was great news for Wendell Callahan, a "non-violent" crack dealer serving 12 1/2 years in federal prison in Ohio. Callahan was released 4 1/2 years early, with officials citing his "good behavior" while in prison.

Guess no one thought Callahan's previous conviction in a 1999 non-fatal shooting incident mattered, nor did an earlier drug case. And no one red-flagged the violent domestic abuse charges filed against Callahan by his ex-girlfriend, Erveena Hammonds, in 2006. Callahan was released from federal prison on Aug. 8, 2014.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by chezball

Obama Has Granted More pardons Than the Past 6 Presidents Combined

Hopefully he gets to all 11k that are still pending.


http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/trump-...ounds-6105294/

#tacotrucksoneverycorner

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Hopefully he gets to all 11k that are still pending.


Latinos for Trump founder warns of #TacoTrucksOnEveryCorner | Metro News

#tacotrucksoneverycorner

I've very much enjoyed sites like Deadspin run w/ this. It's pretty funny.