2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by Ooosh

davepeters239 is WilsonValdez

You mean the baseball player or the wannabe hipster who trolls this message board.

[Ooosh]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

You mean the baseball player or the wannabe hipster who trolls this message board.

I thought I liked him but not if he is a hipster...

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

You can buy it off of me. Make me an offer.

I would pay you double what I paid for mine but I would need to see a scan of the back first.

[WilsonValdez]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

You mean the baseball player or the wannabe hipster who trolls this message board.

Wannabe hipster? the fk?


Are we just throwing out random titles now, you (wannabe) half-brained hippy goat molester!


And I don't have to troll this message board...it trolls itself enough with its collective stupidity.

[davepeters239]

To reason this thread is 19 pages long is because some people continue to post nonsense and stupid pictures.

There are however others here and myself who want to find out what this card is, so I ask people to stop posting the nonsense if they aren't interested in this card.

[WilsonValdez]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

To reason this thread is 19 pages long is because some people continue to post nonsense and stupid pictures.

There are however others here and myself who want to find out what this card is, so I ask people to stop posting the nonsense if they aren't interested in this card.

[natbornkiller]

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

To reason this thread is 19 pages long is because some people continue to post nonsense .

Like your nonsense posts?

[MetDude]

It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.
It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.



It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.
It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.

[DaBaddestHic]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Don't worry Will, just for you sweetie, I'll get it. No excuses just facts. I don't care about Dave Peters card. I know I have it, if no one believes me, then thats their problem. In that whole time, do you think I thought one bit about this stupid card and getting it?

Why don't you just stop posting in Dave's threads? You're not adding anything valuable anymore. We get it - this card isn't worth your time. You don't care about Dave or anyone else's opinion. Blah blah blah. You're just belittling people at this point.

Originally Posted by Jenkinssssss

how the hell did this idiot troll ya'll for 19 pages? i can't believe some of you are that stupid to repeatedly argue with some dumb kid.

Call me stupid if you want, but I'm actually trying to be reasonable here. I don't feel like I'm being trolled, because I think Dave is waking up to one of the things we've been trying to get him to understand; that there actually is a super auto out there. Now until that super actually shows up, or someone with another copy of this card who finds it worth their time to take full scans comes along, Dave may not be convinced that what he has isn't a 1/1. And it's doubtful that Topps is going to remember what the card he has actually is anymore.

But I don't think it's trolling. A little hard headed yeah. But unlike others he's actually kept his cool while being repeatedly insulted and told how wrong he is. I can respect that.

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by MetDude

It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.
It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.



It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.
It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1. It's not a 1/1.

Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by death2redemptions

Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.
Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is. Dave Peters: yes it is.

[death2redemptions]

The Dave Peters theory: IGNORE the facts. EMBRACE ignorance.

[charnick]

i gotta say, i checked of of chiming into this thread because it appears that Dave just won't listen to reason, but I have been enjoying all the animated GIF's!

[tonedef2oo8]

All of this for a card purchased on ebay for less than $25.00 amazing.

[natbornkiller]

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by charnick

i gotta say, i checked of of chiming into this thread because it appears that Dave just won't listen to reason, but I have been enjoying all the animated GIF's!

Listen to who or what?

Did I miss somewhere where you or someone else proved there was a superfractor out there?

[37Jetson]

Dabaddesthic - do you still believe that he is not trolling?

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Did I miss somewhere where you or someone else proved there was a superfractor out there?

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Dabaddesthic - do you still believe that he is not trolling?

I am going to report you. I am tried of you guys making accusations and harassing me.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

Listen to who or what?

Did I miss somewhere where you or someone else proved there was a superfractor out there?

Did I miss where you proved your unstamped, unstickered unsigned card that topps told you was accidentally put in packs, that others have shown a picture of having, that we found a thread from a user on another board describing having pulled one from a pack as well IS actually a 1/1 auto ?


didnt think so


If your card was supposed to be THE 1/1 Topps would have fixed this years ago, and you wouldnt have had to file a BBB complaint despite having bought the card on the secondary market

Occams Razor - think about it.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by MetDude

Did I miss where you proved your unstamped, unstickered unsigned card that topps told you was accidentally put in packs, that others have shown a picture of having, that we found a thread from a user on another board describing having pulled one from a pack as well IS actually a 1/1 auto ?


didnt think so


If your card was supposed to be THE 1/1 Topps would have fixed this years ago, and you wouldnt have had to file a BBB complaint despite having bought the card on the secondary market

Occams Razor - think about it.

I have said time and time again why I think my card is what it is and I have offered proof.

Everyone keeps saying I am wrong yet I have not seen one person offer proof.

The way it stands right now is my card is graded, it is authentic, and it is in the Beckett population report as the 1/1.

Now I want to keep an open mind that there may be a superfractor autograph version but unless someone can offer some sort of proof mine will be considered the 1/1.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have said time and time again why I think my card is what it is and I have offered proof.

Everyone keeps saying I am wrong yet I have not seen one person offer proof.

The way it stands right now is my card is graded, it is authentic, and it is in the Beckett population report as the 1/1.

Now I want to keep an open mind that there may be a superfractor autograph version but unless someone can offer some sort of proof mine will be considered the 1/1.

only by you....

the only thing you have proven relates to your state of mind and character.

[davepeters239]

Originally Posted by MetDude

only by you....

the only thing you have proven relates to your state of mind and character.

I have no idea what this even means.

I said I would contact Topps to find out more. That is all I can really do.

Now please stop trolling and harassing me as others are truly interested in what happened. If you do not stop I will report you.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by davepeters239

I have no idea what this even means.

I said I would contact Topps to find out more. That is all I can really do.

Now please stop trolling and harassing me as others are truly interested in what happened. If you do not stop I will report you.

You havent proven anything. I have not harassed you in anyway.
Note the lack of adjectives?

I have simply tried to show you the error of your ways...

Not one person has even remotely agreed that there is even a chance
your card is actually supposed to be a 1/1 auto

deal with it

[charnick]

dave, your logic is misplaced, and I'm sorry to see you can not see that. the proof of the existence of an actual 1/1 auto superfractor is not pertinent to the proving of whether your card is as rare as you believe it to be. it has been clearly established that:

a) your card is not a superfractor
b) your card is not autographed
c) your card is "not valid" as it doesn't have a sticker

however, you have trapped yourself in two well-known psychological heuristics that no amount of convincing from other board members will shake you out of.

Scarcity heuristic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you have convinced yourself of the rarity of your card, and no amount of proof will convince you otherwise. you have invested so much of your time and energy into it, that your brain will never let itself be convinced that your efforts might have been for naught.

Availability heuristic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you have also convinced yourself that your place in this situation is greater or more important that it is in actuality. that somehow topps and a-rod should succumb to your whims and create a new card that exists only in your reality as you see it.

it is 8 years later. topps will never concern themselves with this situation, for they have no reason to as a corporation. i do not think you're a scammer, i do not think you're a troll. i do think you're a grown man who has let themselves see the world in a certain way, one that makes your importance in the world be greater than it actually is. it's nothing to be ashamed of, the availability heuristic is the most common, and one that we all succumb to at some point. i've been guilty of it myself at many points in my life.

however, it could lead to greater unhappiness down the road as you continue to hit roadblocks in communicating with topps & a-rod. you have built up this reality so much that it's quite understandable not to want to see the forest for the trees. i make no judgements, and i wish you well.