Running CGC (old CSG) Order Tracker

[wrosy313]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

From their grading scale it looks like it automatically starts at 9 for the highest grade. A gem mint 9.5 can't have any surface flaws besides something under magnification.

https://www.csgcards.com/card-grading/grading-scale/

Thanks - yeah that was the same as I was reading then.


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[Stech36]

Originally Posted by Dukeboy73

That happened to me as well. I ignored the first and they sent a second 2 days later. I called and they said that the card I gave wouldn't go through. I gave them a new card yesterday and the grades popped today.

Oh interesting, I’ll give them a call tomorrow. Must have made a mistake on the form or something.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by ainmon

You gloss over the fact that right before they say 10 the words “we have more than” and then right after 10 “full time graders”. Are you so naive to think and believe that THE WORLD’S LEADING GRADING COMPANY would not have the resources to figure out how to shift resources??? Do you really think that they only have 10 people in the entire company capable of grading???

Every facet of their company is overwhelmed with backlogs. How can they shift resources around when their CGC trading cards is already three months behind schedule before PSA closing. Their trading cards are up to 144 days for bulk and 142 for economy, probably even worse than that right now. How did the WORLD’S LEADING GRADING COMPANY get so far behind in only a few months? They couldn't keep up with pokemon cards!

Originally Posted by ainmon

I would hazard a guess that as an established multinational company who has a reputation world-wide as experts in the field of grading know a tiny bit more than some key-board doom and gloom warrior with a tinfoil hat and crystal ball.

My crystal ball has been pretty accurate with what has been happening in this insane world of grading. I think CSG is hedging their bets on if PSA opens back up that they will have less cards being sent in three months from now. They are just hoarding submissions to have business for the next year.

Originally Posted by ainmon

CCG has done a slow roll out into cards (starting with TCG cards, slowly transitioning into sports cards). They hired arguably the world’s leading expert in card grading and took their time rolling things out. If you are going to hang your hat on a crystal ball and a feeling at least listen to everything they say and not regurgitate bits and pieces to fit your narrative.

What have they been saying? CSG has been dead silent about what has been happening since PSA closed. How many cards can they grade per day? How many packages do they have delivered per day? Exponential growth is not something any company can deal with overnight.

[ainmon]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Every facet of their company is overwhelmed with backlogs. How can they shift resources around when their CGC trading cards is already three months behind schedule before PSA closing. Their trading cards are up to 144 days for bulk and 142 for economy, probably even worse than that right now. How did the WORLD’S LEADING GRADING COMPANY get so far behind in only a few months? They couldn't keep up with pokemon cards!

Bulk and Economy sure, you pay for cheap service.... did you not notice that their standard grading at $25 per card is 31 days? So what if you have to wait for bulk you get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by discodanman45

My crystal ball has been pretty accurate with what has been happening in this insane world of grading. I think CSG is hedging their bets on if PSA opens back up that they will have less cards being sent in three months from now. They are just hoarding submissions to have business for the next year.

Why are you so concerned with the conspiracy theories that they are trying to hide things and trying to stock pile business.... They have been transparent with everything they have done... You don’t like the clock not starting until the order is checked in? Well hmm... who else does that... PSA, BGS, SGC...That’s pretty much industry standard.

Again, as someone else said, this CSG ORDER TRACKING thread does not need your fear porn doom and gloom BS

Originally Posted by discodanman45

What have they been saying? CSG has been dead silent about what has been happening since PSA closed. How many cards can they grade per day? How many packages do they have delivered per day? Exponential growth is not something any company can deal with overnight.

A multi-billion dollar international company who only does grading and has launched and runs the most respected grading standards in the world, isn’t smart enough to look at the market and forecast demand? Hmmm, I guess that 21,000 square foot building they purchased was really just an oversized break room for their other 320 employees to watch and laugh at the ten people grading cards

Get Frozen up in here and LET IT GO! No one wants to hear your ramblings about how bad of a company they are and whatever else you spout off.

[Dacubs]

Service level: Economy No Subs
# of Cards Submitted: 3

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:

Weird that my subgrades ones are done first??

Service level: Economy with subs
# of Cards Submitted: 4

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped: 04/13/2021

Kinda bummed...I guess I gotta look a little closer...not sure what the surface issues were either...Every card had something though that brought it down

Basketball
2009-10
SP
Signature Edition
INKredible
I-LJ
LeBron James
8.0 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.5 Corners
7.5 Edges
9.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2008
Upper Deck
Baseball Heroes
Autographs
114
Derek Jeter
Red
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.0 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020
Bowman
Sterling
Prospect Autographs
BSPA-BWJ
Bobby Witt Jr.
Speckle Refractor
9.5 Grade
10.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.0 Surface **How can you tell?? It's speckled??**
10.0 Auto

Basketball
2018-19
Donruss
Optic
177
Luka Doncic
Rated Rookie
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.0 Surface

[wrosy313]

Originally Posted by Dacubs

Service level: Economy No Subs
# of Cards Submitted: 3

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:

Weird that my subgrades ones are done first??

Service level: Economy with subs
# of Cards Submitted: 4

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped: 04/13/2021

Kinda bummed...I guess I gotta look a little closer...not sure what the surface issues were either...Every card had something though that brought it down

Basketball
2009-10
SP
Signature Edition
INKredible
I-LJ
LeBron James
8.0 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.5 Corners
7.5 Edges
9.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2008
Upper Deck
Baseball Heroes
Autographs
114
Derek Jeter
Red
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.0 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020
Bowman
Sterling
Prospect Autographs
BSPA-BWJ
Bobby Witt Jr.
Speckle Refractor
9.5 Grade
10.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.0 Surface **How can you tell?? It's speckled??**
10.0 Auto

Basketball
2018-19
Donruss
Optic
177
Luka Doncic
Rated Rookie
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.0 Surface

It’s great to see subs moving! Sorry about the grades. I think CSG is trying to be extra conservative with their grades to avoid a reputation of perfunctory gems.


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[Stech36]

Originally Posted by wrosy313

It’s great to see subs moving! Sorry about the grades. I think CSG is trying to be extra conservative with their grades to avoid a reputation of perfunctory gems.


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They’re tough from what I’ve seen. I guess I’ll know for sure once I get mine back.

[Dukeboy73]

Here are my results from the first order. Tough on a few but mostly how I thought they would go.

Baseball
2020 Bowman Draft Chrome Autographs CDA-ST Spencer Torkelson
Blue Wave Refractor
9.0 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.0 Edges
8.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020 Bowman Draft Chrome Autographs CDA-ST Spencer Torkelson
Purple Refractor
9.0 Grade
9.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.0 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020 Bowman Draft Chrome Autographs CDA-ST Spencer Torkelson
Refractor
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.0 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.0 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020 Bowman Draft Chrome Autographs CDA-RHA Robert Hassell
Gold Wave Refractor
9.0 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
9.0 Surface
10.0 Auto

Basketball
2003-04 Topps Chrome 114 Chris Bosh Refractor
9.0 Grade
9.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.5 Surface


Basketball
2003-04 Topps Chrome 114 Chris Bosh Refractor
9.0 Grade
8.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.5 Surface

Basketball
2003-04 Topps Chrome 113 Carmelo Anthony Refractor
9.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.5 Surface

Basketball
2003-04 Bowman Chrome 123 LeBron James
8.5 Grade
8.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
9.0 Surface

Football
2019 Panini Select Signatures SP-PM Patrick Mahomes II Maroon
9.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

[jjcan]

I am ok with their turnaround times.

PSA new submissions turnaround times right now is a BIG ZERO, so 80,90, 120 days beats that for sure. right now PSA orders i do have is around 7 to 8 months when logged.

So if i can get cards in 4-6 months from now with CSG its a plus, with PSA I wont even have cards logged with them if I send in July and WHO KNOWS WHAT THEIR BULK PRICE WILL BE???

Disco knows the future for sure I am sure he will tell us*PSA their BULK price will be in 3 months and their turnaround times..

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Dacubs

Service level: Economy No Subs
# of Cards Submitted: 3

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:

Weird that my subgrades ones are done first??

Service level: Economy with subs
# of Cards Submitted: 4

Order Shipped: 03/16/2021 USPS First Class
Postal Delivery: 03/23/2021
CSG Received: 03/31/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading:
CSG Grading / QC:
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped: 04/13/2021

Kinda bummed...I guess I gotta look a little closer...not sure what the surface issues were either...Every card had something though that brought it down

Basketball
2009-10
SP
Signature Edition
INKredible
I-LJ
LeBron James
8.0 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.5 Corners
7.5 Edges
9.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2008
Upper Deck
Baseball Heroes
Autographs
114
Derek Jeter
Red
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
8.0 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.5 Surface
10.0 Auto

Baseball
2020
Bowman
Sterling
Prospect Autographs
BSPA-BWJ
Bobby Witt Jr.
Speckle Refractor
9.5 Grade
10.0 Centering
9.5 Corners
10.0 Edges
9.0 Surface **How can you tell?? It's speckled??**
10.0 Auto

Basketball
2018-19
Donruss
Optic
177
Luka Doncic
Rated Rookie
8.5 Grade
9.5 Centering
9.5 Corners
9.5 Edges
8.0 Surface

Thanks for the update! My Economy+subs with 8 cards was delivered the same day and hasn't been "received" yet. Wonder what's going on there.

[Tails01]

My status went to "blank" and I cannot refresh the page. Hopefully this is a good sign that grading is over. Anyone else have this?

Received 3/8 and scheduled for grading on 3/15.

[ainmon]

Originally Posted by Tails01

My status went to "blank" and I cannot refresh the page. Hopefully this is a good sign that grading is over. Anyone else have this?

Received 3/8 and scheduled for grading on 3/15.

My first order to pop did that as well, for mine it took about a day of it being blank before it officially popped with grades. (I have another order that just went blank as well so fingers crossed).

[YayNJ]

my first ever sub to them got delivered today according to the tracking (from the UK) paid for economy with subs... now seeing well over 100 days already. *sigh*

[IAmNoName]

My first express order... this one got hung up as my 2nd express passed it. Looks like both will be heading back to me by Friday.

Order Shipped: 03/20/2021 (USPS Priority Mail)
Postal Delivery: 03/22/2021
CSG Received: 03/24/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading: 03/26/2021
CSG Grading / QC: 04/14/2021
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:

My second express is going to the last step. I can see all the sub grades but they haven’t put in the final overall grade. Pretty happy with what I saw.

[wrosy313]

Originally Posted by IAmNoName

My first express order... this one got hung up as my 2nd express passed it. Looks like both will be heading back to byFriday.

Order Shipped: 03/20/2021 (USPS Priority Mail)
Postal Delivery: 03/22/2021
CSG Received: 03/24/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading: 03/26/2021
CSG Grading / QC: 04/14/2021
CSG Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:

My second express is going to the last step. I can see all the sub grades but they haven’t put in the final overall grade. Pretty happy with what I saw.

Wow that’s awesome!


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[nicepakryan]

Originally Posted by ainmon

My first order to pop did that as well, for mine it took about a day of it being blank before it officially popped with grades. (I have another order that just went blank as well so fingers crossed).

Did you receive an email saying it was complete? I have a 10 card standard order that showed up with subgrades on them today but no final grade. Also had 3 of the cards with 0s as subgrades so I’m hoping everything will be updated and I receive some number grades on them.

[Dacubs]

my non-sub shipment got finalized and shipped today

[ainmon]

Originally Posted by nicepakryan

Did you receive an email saying it was complete? I have a 10 card standard order that showed up with subgrades on them today but no final grade. Also had 3 of the cards with 0s as subgrades so I’m hoping everything will be updated and I receive some number grades on them.

I received an email yes, but it was a day or so after the grades had been posted.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by nicepakryan

Did you receive an email saying it was complete? I have a 10 card standard order that showed up with subgrades on them today but no final grade. Also had 3 of the cards with 0s as subgrades so I’m hoping everything will be updated and I receive some number grades on them.

Mine currently went from Grading/QA to no status? Do you get an email when they are done?

[ainmon]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

Mine currently went from Grading/QA to no status? Do you get an email when they are done?

I got an email a day or so after the grades were posted.

[ArmyDC]

From the results that everyone is sharing, I am getting a since of dread because I sent a 50 card bulk with no subs that are about to be done and I will not have a explanation on the lower than expected grades.. no wonder they charged me already for my second order of bulk submission.. they probably knew that I would flip out and ask them to return them... oof

[ainmon]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

From the results that everyone is sharing, I am getting a since of dread because I sent a 50 card bulk with no subs that are about to be done and I will not have a explanation on the lower than expected grades.. no wonder they charged me already for my second order of bulk submission.. they probably knew that I would flip out and ask them to return them... oof

So you have dread that you sent in crap and they aren’t going to give out a bunch of 9.5’s??? They grade tough yes but if you look on their website they lay out what they look for.
https://www.csgcards.com/card-grading/grading-scale/

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by ainmon

So you have dread that you sent in crap and they aren’t going to give out a bunch of 9.5’s??? They grade tough yes but if you look on their website they lay out what they look for.
https://www.csgcards.com/card-grading/grading-scale/

Ok.. no if people are getting lower than expected grades then i would have bumped up to sub grades and only sent 1 order instead of 2... how about not being a dick?

[anusinha]

Do they automatically charge your CC when they are done? My buddy had an order finish and he had to call in his payment info before they would post the grades or ship.

[Jbenn26]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Do they automatically charge your CC when they are done? My buddy had an order finish and he had to call in his payment info before they would post the grades or ship.

I had a to call to give them my card # too lady said cards were finished grading idk about that though says it's still scheduled for grading on their site, looks as if they charge before grading even begins