Luka Doncic Questionable Autograph Analysis

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Hahaheee thats good.

Also, OP I didnt say the NT was identical to the mock. I said there were many similarities.

Speaking of the mock auto, your thoughts on it rogermaris? For me it doesnt really fit into the two Luka styles.

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[M4YH3M1]

still waiting for this video of him signing 5 cards in a row...

[theLUCKYshow]

Trying to get more info on these and if they were signed at the rookie photoshoot or not. Anyone else have info on these?

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[Biggums7]

Best video of him signing

https://youtu.be/dNyJ0XtGmuE

[Ross]

Yeah his cards look nothing like how he signs. They send boxes to their houses and the players have to “return them”. No telling who signed his stuff but it ain’t him


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[TheYoyo]

Originally Posted by Biggums7

Best video of him signing

https://youtu.be/dNyJ0XtGmuE

all of those definitely look like one type of signature and not the other. You would think out of the bunch they showed in that video at that least one would look more like the 'stretched out' lulu but was not the case.

Man not sure what would happen if something definitely does come out especially when Panini is right outside of Dallas. I live in the DFW area and all the autos I've seen at shops on jerseys/balls that he signed at events etc. all look like the signature in the video as well.

[dwtaylor1055]

Here is what his signature looked like when visiting Indy earlier this year on a Ball and Jersey(Both are NFT/NFS). Very nice and calm kid.

[RAV2773]

But...but....his autograph can't look the same all the time. Yeah ok. ALL of those autographs from that video look long and condensed, nothing like the big loopy LuLu autos that are in question here.

[cardlover29]

I have seen lots of his in person graphs, the cards are 100% not signed by him.

[KidKards101]

Case closed.. Video proof there. Can't say anything else about it.

[cp312]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Eh, he still hasn’t explained the Optics. He claims you can see two autos, but he’s clearly making that up. His theory is the moms sigs are consistent. The optics clearly are a mix and match of all the autos, loopy Os, different starting points, nice u’s, sloppy u’s. And the reason he ignores it is it shatters his entire theory that he’s been going on and on about in this thread.

There's literally only base versions that have varying sigs, all the silver and color has a lulu autograph (with zero exceptions), and there's actually very few of the non-lulu sigs on the base versions, which indicates to me that he likely did in fact sign some before realizing that both he and his mum couldn't sign in tandem because they look too different, or he just straight up had to go somewhere and they got finished for him

[chuckerrrr]

Ive been saying it since first release. Most of his autos the loopy wide Lulu’s just wreaks of female handwriting. Way too neat. Every female I know has super neat writing.

Now after seeing this video above Im 100 percent convinced that Panini autos not all but a very high percentage are signed by somebody else.

NT RPA. 12k card. Fake auto and player worn jersey which who knows could have been worn by Brunson.

The card hobby just gets better and better every day (sigh)




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[duron]

Video made me laugh, just because it somehow still won't be enough for some.

Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Ive been saying it since first release. Most of his autos the loopy wide Lulu’s just wreaks of female handwriting. Way too neat. Every female I know has super neat writing.

Now after seeing this video above Im 100 percent convinced that Panini autos not all but a very high percentage are signed by somebody else.

NT RPA. 12k card. Fake auto and player worn jersey which who knows could have been worn by Brunson.

The card hobby just gets better and better every day (sigh)

Never better for plebeian collectors like yours truly.

[Lee42]

Seems as though Fanatics have taken the proactive approach here.

They would have known about the rumours that some of his card autos are questionable, so they put out their own video to reassure their customers that the Memorabilia they sell has actually been signed by him.

It’s a smart move.

I really feel for those that have invested huge amounts in Lukas signed rookie cards and especially his NT Rookie cards.

For those that really collect Luka and are huge fans of his I feel for them as most of his signed rookie cards will forever be tainted with question marks in regards to the authenticity of his signature.

My guess is that if they haven't already been signed, Panini will try and get videos done his next signing...….but if his Flawless and Immaculate stuff is already signed, the horse has already bolted.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Those were his scribbles when he signed at the rookie photoshoot. When he signs l u l u he's sitting down with an anchored hand. And yes he takes his time with his bball card autos. I read an article somewhere (cant find it now of course) that talked about Luka collecting Panini cards as a kid. He was talking about how crazy it was to have his own NBA Panini cards now. So he has some pride in how he signs these.

Im looking forward to Lukas 5 inscriptions in NT surfacing.

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His hand looks pretty anchored in the fanatics video. What are your thoughts now???

[Siberian13]

Does this make is cards with real autos any more valuable or will it be business as usual? People will still overpay for the better brands with the fake autos?

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

His hand looks pretty anchored in the fanatics video. What are your thoughts now???

He is signing everything except a bball card and with a much larger signature. Again, there are plenty of IP examples of him signing differently than this fanatics video so its not just conjecture that he has several signature styles.

[TheRoundMound]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Does this make is cards with real autos any more valuable or will it be business as usual? People will still overpay for the better brands with the fake autos?

As long as people pay premiums for PSA10 and BGS9.5 as long will these also overpay for questionable licensed autos

[M4YH3M1]

GAME. SET. MATCH.

Completely FAKE autographs being peddled by Panini.

And even worse.. by Luka himself.

Disgraceful

[M4YH3M1]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

He is signing everything except a bball card and with a much larger signature. Again, there are plenty of IP examples of him signing differently than this fanatics video so its not just conjecture that he has several signature styles.

Luka Doncic Panini Instant cards are signed in the presence of Panini personnel.
Care to comment on those as they all look the same as the Authentics video style autograph, which IS completely different to 90% of his Panini hobby releases.

Also care to reference examples of these "IP examples of him signing differently than this fanatics video" ?
Preferably video evidence.

[ninjacookies]

IMO this should be handled like the Dak autopen scandal in football. Everyone should get a replacement 'real' auto signed in Paninis presence with a hologram. In a perfect world.....

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

IMO this should be handled like the Dak autopen scandal in football. Everyone should get a replacement 'real' auto signed in Paninis presence with a hologram. In a perfect world.....

Yeah I agree..though the Dak Autopen was contained within just Prizm correct? This is an even worse problem bc it's literally almost every release Panini has put out.

[ballhawkdawk]

I’m amazed there is still doubt. This was conclusive by like page 4. Those who believe he signs all of his cards need to do some self reflecting and figure out what it is that makes you such a knucklehead.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Yeah I agree..though the Dak Autopen was contained within just Prizm correct? This is an even worse problem bc it's literally almost every release Panini has put out.

That is correct..and yes, Panini has gotten themselves into a very deep situation. One would think this could easily fall into a class action suit considering the prices of his autos, no?

I have a loopy femme auto, and I don't find his mom to be hot. I'd like to be on that list.

[Luni]

I don't know how anyone can say that Luka's card autographs aren't being done by someone else at this point. I even own a really nice one and I think it is 100% not his. I mean I already knew this once I actually met Luka in person and he signed a photo for me. It looks nothing like the auto that is on his cards.

The real proof will be when his 2nd year autos all look like the real ones. Just wait.