1996-97 Topps Chrome Refractors Kobe Bryant RC BGS 10 PRISTINE "Black Label" - Page 2

usmc03vet · 02-24-2016, 01:06 PM

Take it to the top!

b00kzies · 02-24-2016, 03:47 PM

Geez, what are the chances that #0008995279 and #0008995280 got back-to-back black labels on a submission.

Either way, nice card.

usmc03vet · 02-24-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by b00kzies

Geez, what are the chances that #0008995279 and #0008995280 got back-to-back black labels on a submission.

Either way, nice card.

Chances are slim to none, doubt it would ever happen again...the same owner had both cards, and sent them in together. The other one was sold via eBay for $73,000 and I picked up the other one in a trade deal. Pretty incredible find if you ask me!

Thanks!
Joe

housecore · 02-24-2016, 06:58 PM

If I can afford such a card there is no way in hell im getting this thing shipped....

usmc03vet · 02-24-2016, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by housecore

If I can afford such a card there is no way in hell im getting this thing shipped....

I know what you mean, this card is way too valuable to trust with USPS but FedEx overnight is relatively secure. Of course given the price, it would make more sense to do an exchange in person.

Joe

bas · 02-25-2016, 01:17 AM

nice card but that seems like a not so great price, how many mj exquisite auto patches could u get for that

usmc03vet · 02-25-2016, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bas

nice card but that seems like a not so great price, how many mj exquisite auto patches could u get for that

According to the blog rules I had to throw a price in there somewhere so just because it is listed at $125,000 does not mean I will ONLY sell it for that price...it is just a starting point. Offers are more than welcome from anyone interested, whats the worst that can happen? I decline?

Secondly, it is not the refractor that is rare...or even the Pristine 10 that makes it rare, it is the POP 2 for the Black Label that makes it rare and worth the premium. What is the POP on MJ exquisite auto patches out there?

Thanks for checking out my card and for your comments.

enoch47 · 02-25-2016, 01:41 AM

Is Kobe's face changing color?

usmc03vet · 02-25-2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by enoch47

Is Kobe's face changing color?

enoch47, funny you should mention greening. A few days ago I had received a similar question from someone else.

This was my reply, "jpayne7787...No offense taken, I know what you are looking at and that is just the camera capturing the refractor qualities on the card. There is no "greening" to speak of on this card, highly doubt it would have graded a BGS 10 Pristine let alone qualify for the Black Label being all 10's. They would have dinged it on surface for sure!!!"

Hopefully that answers the question.

Thanks for checking out my listing!

Joe

enoch47 · 02-25-2016, 11:16 AM

No doubt...thanks for the reply

usmc03vet · 02-25-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by enoch47

No doubt...thanks for the reply

No worries, my pleasure! If you have a question, others probably do too so it is better to address any concerns.

Joe

usmc03vet · 02-26-2016, 10:27 AM

Friday, 07:30...To the top.

usmc03vet · 03-02-2016, 11:33 AM

Bump for 03/02/16.

Hbkhbk · 03-09-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jpayne7787

I don't mean any offense, but it seems like it's greening a bit, or is that just the scan? Espicially the arm and leg of Kobe.

There is definitely greening issue on this copy. For some reason BGS does not ding greening for surface grade. You see a lot Gold label Kobe chrome with a green Kobe.

The copy on eBay has the real perfect 10 surface color. If you put the two copies side by side, the green issue is pretty self evident.

If you seen a copy of this card in person then you know that the arm and leg part of the card does not have a refractor surface. The reason OP gave for off color is BS.

usmc03vet · 03-09-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hbkhbk

There is definitely greening issue on this copy. For some reason BGS does not ding greening for surface grade. You see a lot Gold label Kobe chrome with a green Kobe.

The copy on eBay has the real perfect 10 surface color. If you put the two copies side by side, the green issue is pretty self evident.

Good morning, I see that there has been a lot of discussion about "greening" on my Kobe Bryant card. First, I would like to say that it was never my intention to deceive anyone as to the condition of the card.

Therefore I will say this...upon comparing the two cards, the one that I have listed does indeed have some discoloration or "greening" as you put it. It is clearly a common issue with these Topps Chrome cards. I am somewhat disappointed to say the least that these cards graded by BGS were not more carefully considered for the Black Label based on what appears to be an issue among collectors.

Of the two in existence, mine is clearly the less appealing of the two for those who see "greening" as a flaw in the card, not just something that happens with these Topps Chrome cards.

In my opinion, that does not change the fact that it is still a Black Label Pristine 10 (1 of 2 at that), and the value still holds true based on low POP.

Thank you again for your input and please try to refrain from saying that anything shady is going on, it was simply an oversight on my part and I apologize to anyone who felt deceived.

Semper Fi!

usmc03vet · 03-15-2016, 01:59 PM

Check out the eBay auction for the sister of this card, #2 of 2...it will be amazing to see what PWCC ends at.

usmc03vet · 03-17-2016, 08:52 PM

Now that the auction ended yesterday at $58,100...I am now taking offers on my Kobe Bryant again, feel free to contact me. Thanks!!!

02-24-2016, 03:47 PM	#27
b00kzies Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 3 b00kzies	Geez, what are the chances that #0008995279 and #0008995280 got back-to-back black labels on a submission. Either way, nice card. __________________ ☆ Always looking for Jordan RC PSA/BGS 8-up or high end patch/auto.

02-25-2016, 01:17 AM	#31
bas Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 485	nice card but that seems like a not so great price, how many mj exquisite auto patches could u get for that __________________ http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x16/bas040/

02-24-2016, 01:06 PM	#26
usmc03vet Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 140 veterans_investment_group	Take it to the top!

02-24-2016, 06:58 PM	#29
housecore Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 622	If I can afford such a card there is no way in hell im getting this thing shipped....

02-25-2016, 01:41 AM	#33
enoch47 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 23	Is Kobe's face changing color?

02-25-2016, 11:16 AM	#35
enoch47 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 23	No doubt...thanks for the reply

02-26-2016, 10:27 AM	#37
usmc03vet Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 140 veterans_investment_group	Friday, 07:30...To the top.

03-02-2016, 11:33 AM	#38
usmc03vet Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 140 veterans_investment_group	Bump for 03/02/16.

03-15-2016, 01:59 PM	#41
usmc03vet Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 140 veterans_investment_group	Check out the eBay auction for the sister of this card, #2 of 2...it will be amazing to see what PWCC ends at.

03-17-2016, 08:52 PM	#42
usmc03vet Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 140 veterans_investment_group	Now that the auction ended yesterday at $58,100...I am now taking offers on my Kobe Bryant again, feel free to contact me. Thanks!!!