Official 2016 Big-10 Football Thread - Page 2

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

You guys can talk about high school kids all you want. MSU will just keep beating both of you

And be completely owned by Nick Saban.

hairysasquatch · 01-21-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

And be completely pwned by Nick Saban.

Fixed it for you.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

And be completely owned by Nick Saban.

For someone who believes MSU doesn't matter, that's all you seem to talk and think about.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitFan14

Michigan has lost a couple guys but this was expected..

"Lost" or Harbaugh pulled their scholarships?

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

For someone who believes MSU doesn't matter, that's all you seem to talk and think about.

I can't respond to what you wrote now?

Such a sally.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

I can't respond to what you wrote now?

Such a sally.

Go for it, and just admit you are completely obsessed with MSU.

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Go for it, and just admit you are completely obsessed with MSU.

I like how angry and defensive you get.

asujbl · 01-21-2016, 01:49 PM

"THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT “UNVERIFIED VORACITY.” Last week, Ohio State signed a record college apparel contract with Nike to the tune of $252 million over 15 years.

Not long after, That Hippie Up North popped his head out of his hole to dispute the real value of Ohio State's deal and insist that Michigan's 11-year, $122.32 million contract (with an option to extend to a 15-year, $169 million deal) was more valuable:

• Both schools have a 15-year deal; Michigan has an opt-out after 11.
• Michigan gets 12 million upfront; OSU gets 20.
• OSU gets 3.44 million for the first 11 years and 4.44 for the last four.
• M gets 4.82 million for the first ten years, 5.32 in 11, and 5.82 for the last four.
• Total dough: Michigan, 88.8 million. Ohio State, 75.6 million.

OSU gets more upfront but inflation isn't sufficient to make up the deficit, especially since Michigan has an opt-out four years earlier. So OSU's "biggest ever contract" actually delivers 13 million fewer dollars than Michigan's. But OSU gets more Nike volleyballs so they've got that going for them.

This is true—if you ignore the other elements of Ohio State's contract, which includes scholarship money, internships, and most importantly, $41 million to be used outside of athletics.

It takes a special kind of hubris to look at $75.6 million in cash and $94.5 million in apparel money and conclude that those come to $252 million, but that's the mind that reduces equipment and gear for 36 varsity sports to “more Nike volleyballs,” too.

Michigan Men: Bad at football. Bad at math"

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JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

I like how angry and defensive you get.

I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.

asujbl · 01-21-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.

Just met groundsupport today huh?

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.

Feel free to quote that for me.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

Feel free to quote that for me.

That was easy.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4...-post1281.html

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 02:11 PM

Fair enough.

Big35Hurt · 01-21-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

You guys can talk about high school kids all you want. MSU will just keep beating both of you

Nebraska and Alabama say hi.

CC_123 · 01-21-2016, 02:25 PM

Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread

JustinVerlander07 · 01-21-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

Nebraska and Alabama say hi.

Send them my best, bud!

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Originally Posted by CC_123

Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread

Hopefully groundsupport just gets banned and we never hear from him again on here.

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Send them my best, bud!

Hopefully groundsupport just gets banned and we never hear from him again on here.

See. Such anger.

All I did was bring up Nick Saban.

aliceinpains · 01-21-2016, 03:04 PM

Former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is a new member of the College football playoff committee.

Clemson's Deshaun Watson is a 9-to-2 favorite to win the 2016 Heisman Trophy. Ohio State's J.T. Barrett isn't far behind at 10 to 1

Kelper7 · 01-21-2016, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CC_123

Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread

As is every Big Ten thread except when O$U does something meaningful. I'm not even sure the rest of us are a minority on the board, but we're certainly not as vocal. Mostly because the blowhards deem factoids about our schools meaningless as our programs are "irrelevant" in their eyes. There are several Hoosiers, Badgers, Terrapins, etc around here in addition to your Gophers, but we can't be heard over the yelling of those that wish to bellow out their dominance.

groundsupport · 01-21-2016, 06:59 PM

Four-star CB David Long Jr. commits to Michigan football

Pot Roast · 01-21-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CC_123

Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread

I think the ground squirrels can cover against the Beavers this year.

CC_123 · 01-21-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pot Roast

I think the ground squirrels can cover against the Beavers this year.

Im not even 100% confident on it honestly. If Leidner is still under the helm, I am not confident in us winning any game. If Seth Green starts as a true freshman, I think he will take the Big Ten by storm. Strong arm, accurate, and can get out of the pocket and gain big yards. Pair him with Shannon Brooks and Rodney Smith in the backfield and it could be a deadly option offense. Sad thing is, I do not think the coaching staff for the Gophers will grow a pair and realize that they have better back up QB's then Leidner.

lambeauleap87 · 01-21-2016, 09:31 PM

Hopefully Urban will be able to turn all these great recruiting classes into some more offensive playmakers this year. Got a lot to replace, but he's never failed to put together a monster recruiting class in his time here. Plus they've made some very positive changes to the coaching staff, so there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Ohio State Football in 2016.

asujbl · 01-22-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Hopefully Urban will be able to turn all these great recruiting classes into some more offensive playmakers this year. Got a lot to replace, but he's never failed to put together a monster recruiting class in his time here. Plus they've made some very positive changes to the coaching staff, so there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Ohio State Football in 2016.

Very underrated by the general football fan. He added some really good guys to the staff. I was shocked he was able to get who he got even if it's only for 1 year before they take a promotion somewhere.

asujbl · 01-22-2016, 09:08 AM

Buckeyes need to pick up Rashard Lawrence today. That would be huge. I think he is announcing at 10:30. It's either us or LSU but of course it's not easy to get a kid to leave Louisiana. 247 sports has him as the #23 player in the Country.

If there is one spot that concerns me on the team it is at DT - he'd be a huge pickup for what we need

01-21-2016, 01:49 PM	#33
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 64,818 ohiosundevils	"THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT “UNVERIFIED VORACITY.” Last week, Ohio State signed a record college apparel contract with Nike to the tune of $252 million over 15 years. Not long after, That Hippie Up North popped his head out of his hole to dispute the real value of Ohio State's deal and insist that Michigan's 11-year, $122.32 million contract (with an option to extend to a 15-year, $169 million deal) was more valuable: • Both schools have a 15-year deal; Michigan has an opt-out after 11. • Michigan gets 12 million upfront; OSU gets 20. • OSU gets 3.44 million for the first 11 years and 4.44 for the last four. • M gets 4.82 million for the first ten years, 5.32 in 11, and 5.82 for the last four. • Total dough: Michigan, 88.8 million. Ohio State, 75.6 million. OSU gets more upfront but inflation isn't sufficient to make up the deficit, especially since Michigan has an opt-out four years earlier. So OSU's "biggest ever contract" actually delivers 13 million fewer dollars than Michigan's. But OSU gets more Nike volleyballs so they've got that going for them. This is true—if you ignore the other elements of Ohio State's contract, which includes scholarship money, internships, and most importantly, $41 million to be used outside of athletics. It takes a special kind of hubris to look at $75.6 million in cash and $94.5 million in apparel money and conclude that those come to $252 million, but that's the mind that reduces equipment and gear for 36 varsity sports to “more Nike volleyballs,” too. Michigan Men: Bad at football. Bad at math" http://www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-...-drive-in-snow __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

01-21-2016, 02:25 PM	#40
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01-21-2016, 09:31 PM	#48
lambeauleap87 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 24,744 LL87	Hopefully Urban will be able to turn all these great recruiting classes into some more offensive playmakers this year. Got a lot to replace, but he's never failed to put together a monster recruiting class in his time here. Plus they've made some very positive changes to the coaching staff, so there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Ohio State Football in 2016. __________________ I collect Packers, former Ohio State Buckeyes, Blue Jackets, and Cleveland Indians/Guardians.

01-22-2016, 09:08 AM	#50
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 64,818 ohiosundevils	Buckeyes need to pick up Rashard Lawrence today. That would be huge. I think he is announcing at 10:30. It's either us or LSU but of course it's not easy to get a kid to leave Louisiana. 247 sports has him as the #23 player in the Country. If there is one spot that concerns me on the team it is at DT - he'd be a huge pickup for what we need __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

01-21-2016, 02:11 PM	#38
groundsupport Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 16,233 groundsupportse	Fair enough.

01-21-2016, 03:04 PM	#43
aliceinpains Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,490	Former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is a new member of the College football playoff committee. Clemson's Deshaun Watson is a 9-to-2 favorite to win the 2016 Heisman Trophy. Ohio State's J.T. Barrett isn't far behind at 10 to 1

01-21-2016, 06:59 PM	#45
groundsupport Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 16,233 groundsupportse	Four-star CB David Long Jr. commits to Michigan football