Top 10 Quarterbacks of All-Time - Page 2

BirdLaw · 08-26-2015, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ntgm37

Falco's babe was way hotter than Utah's...so I can see why you put him #1...

Yes, but it takes a god tier level of toughness to put up with someone as psycho as Utah's babe. Gotta give him credit there.

Brafcauknid · 08-26-2015, 12:27 AM

1. Joe Montana
2. Johnny Unitas
3. Tom Brady
4. John Elway
5. Peyton Manning
6. Dan Marino
7. Brett Favre
8. Roger Staubach
9. Terry Bradshaw
10. Steve young

Honestly, you could argue about 5-6 more guys for the last couple spots..otto graham, Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, etc etc.

Archangel1775 · 08-26-2015, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

are you a Saints fan? Brees is good but I think Aaron Rodgers is better who isnt even on your list not to mention I think marino was better but to each his own.

When all is said and done, Rodgers will end up bumping someone off the list. My cut off for players was 2001. The fact that Peyton, Brady and Brees are still playing AND performing at an elite level is pretty damn amazing. I also tend to favor QB's that can run and gun.

Jay9Suited · 08-26-2015, 12:41 AM

I don't want to turn this into a Brady vs. Montana thread.. But if you don't have them as your 1-2 punch your list is incorrect.

I'll post my top 5 as 6-10 can be interchanged with 20+ QB's..

1 - Brady
2 - Montana
3 - Elway
4 - Manning
5 - Marino

ChicoCheese · 08-26-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay9Suited

I don't want to turn this into a Brady vs. Montana thread.. But if you don't have them as your 1-2 punch your list is incorrect.

I'll post my top 5 as 6-10 can be interchanged with 20+ QB's..

1 - Brady
2 - Montana
3 - Elway
4 - Manning
5 - Marino

I have no problem putting Montana as #1, but too much controversy surrounds the Patriots and Brady for me to say he is #2. That's just me.

TheMosh · 08-26-2015, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by theblemishedone

1-Shane Falco
2-Paul Crewe
3-Joe Kingman
4-Johnny Utah
5-Tom Brady
6=Peyton Manning
7-John Elway
8-Dan Marino
9-Sid Luckman
10-Johnny Unitas

no uncle rico

DMACcollector · 08-26-2015, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMosh

no uncle rico

What about Steamin Willie Beamen?

marinocollector · 08-26-2015, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tjenkins

Tarkenton had every major passing record until Marino came along and Marino's weapons were better. Problem was Tarkenton always laid an egg in the superbowls.I still think Tarkenton is a top 10 all time QB!

Chuck Foreman. He was the most valuable offensive player during their Super Bowl runs. If it wasn't for Foreman and that defense, Tarkenton would be nowhere close to top 10.

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Originally Posted by ntgm37

Brees is like top 5 all time in almost every category, and has a ring. He deserves top 10 for sure. Just my opinion tho.

Plays inside. Domes changes things big time. His QB rating drops 12 points when he plays outside.

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Originally Posted by Brafcauknid

1. Joe Montana
2. Johnny Unitas
3. Tom Brady
4. John Elway
5. Peyton Manning
6. Dan Marino
7. Brett Favre
8. Roger Staubach
9. Terry Bradshaw
10. Steve young

Honestly, you could argue about 5-6 more guys for the last couple spots..otto graham, Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, etc etc.

I don't understand the popular idea that surfaced 15 years ago that Unitas is a top 3 QB. It popped up out of nowhere when he passed. You know who thought Marino was a better QB than Unitas? Don Shula. He seemed like he knew what he was talking about, coaching both of them.

jasonm2121 · 08-26-2015, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BestRCs

1. Montana
2. Brady

And the rest is how I feel on that day.

Aaron Rodgers should be creeping in to the top 10 in a few years. He's been arguably the best QB in the league for a while now. Not many sustain that level for this long. (I know different era. Just sayin.)

Agree with this, Montana, Brady then hard to not argue the rest in terms of order. Rodgers prob end up top 10 in the end or top 5 if he can grab 2 more?

Greenfuzz · 08-26-2015, 09:20 AM

Montana
Brady
Unitas
Staubach
Young
Marino
Manning
Baugh
Elway
Favre

Whodey14 · 08-26-2015, 09:22 AM

Any list with bradshaw or without Otto Graham is disqualified.

trixstar · 08-26-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by twisty571

I might take either Steve Young or Bradshaw or Marino off for Otto Graham. Also might have to put Luck on there since he has been anointed already by the hobby and prices.

the mesiah · 08-26-2015, 09:59 AM

10.Otto Graham
9.Terry Bradshaw
8.steve Young
7.Roger Staubach
6.Johnny Unitas
5.Dan Marino
4.Peyton manning
3.John Elway
2.Tom Brady
1.Joe Montana

BirdLaw · 08-26-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by marinocollector

Plays inside. Domes changes things big time. His QB rating drops 12 points when he plays outside.

Well yeah, most QB's ratings drop in a sample that only includes road games.

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I don't understand the popular idea that surfaced 15 years ago that Unitas is a top 3 QB. It popped up out of nowhere when he passed. You know who thought Marino was a better QB than Unitas? Don Shula. He seemed like he knew what he was talking about, coaching both of them.

Wait, what? Johnny Unitas was considered the consensus GOAT for a good bit after he retired and was still in the top 3 long after that. If anything, the idea of him being out of the top 3 is new. I'd also like to see a source for Shula's view. It's an appeal to authority fallacy either way, but I'd still like to see the source.

twisty571 · 08-26-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

Yeah I know but I was never a big Marino fan & I still knock him some for not winning in the playoffs

But Luck should be taking his spot.

chansen10 · 08-26-2015, 11:24 AM

In terms of pure QB ability and not factoring in rings.. I'll go ahead and take Rodgers over anyone

BostonNut · 08-26-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicoCheese

I have no problem putting Montana as #1, but too much controversy surrounds the Patriots and Brady for me to say he is #2. That's just me.

Jerry Rice admitted to cheating his entire career.

Just saying...

jasonm2121 · 08-26-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Jerry Rice admitted to cheating his entire career.

Just saying...

yep, exactly

Kefka891 · 08-26-2015, 11:44 AM

Anyone that doesn't have Brady as #1 is trolling or salty of Brady's dominance.

Even cool joe himself would have struggled against the Seattle D. Joe Montana is an argument for GOAT, but never played any epic defenses like that in the super bowl.

Plus, the difference between Brady and Montana's SB results is, Brady led the game winning drives and his defense ultimately failed to make the stops, while Montanas held up. So lol at the 4-0 over 4-2 argument, which is absurd anyways because making 6 SB's and winning 4 and is better than winning 4 and failing to get there otherwise.

Brady #1.

bojesphob · 08-26-2015, 11:52 AM

Personally, I don't think you can compare QBs today to QBs in other eras. Dan Marino would probably have won 3 Super Bowls and had even more insane stats had his receivers had the protection they have today... But, he played in the 80's. I think it's even tough to compare Marino to Favre, mainly because the rules had changed enough at the end of Marino's career versus the end of Favre's career. Brady, in today's game is one of the best. Would he have done as well in an era where he would be piledriven into the ground when sacked, or when he had a few teeth knocked out? Personally, I don't believe so, but that's the problem, there's no real way to compare them. Would Tony Canadeo or Babe Parilli been HOF QBs in today's game?

Personally, I feel if you are going to do a top 10 list, then it has to be by era, because otherwise you're doing a disservice to those that played at times where QBs weren't featured (and yet still did amazingly well). As such, we should do pre-merger, post-merger to the offensive rule changes of 1978 (and maybe a bit after that as well), then from the 78 rule changes to Free Agency in 93, then 93 to the last major offensive rule change, which was what, around 2004? I can't remember that bit at the moment. But to try to compare Otto Graham to Steve Young isn't fair to either of them

stripedbass91 · 08-26-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicoCheese

I have no problem putting Montana as #1, but too much controversy surrounds the Patriots and Brady for me to say he is #2. That's just me.

Agreed ^^^^

Samiamryan · 08-26-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Jerry Rice admitted to cheating his entire career.

Just saying...

Admitting and getting caught are two different things.

BostonNut · 08-26-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Samiamryan

Admitting and getting caught are two different things.

Double standards.

Double standards everywhere!

Seahawks fan · 08-26-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Jerry Rice admitted to cheating his entire career.

Just saying...

Joe Cool did win 2 SBs before Jerry Rice was even in the NFL

BostonNut · 08-26-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

Joe Cool did win 2 SBs before Jerry Rice was even in the NFL

And Brady won three with fully inflated footballs.

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Brafcauknid Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 331 brafcauknid53 brafcauknid	1. Joe Montana 2. Johnny Unitas 3. Tom Brady 4. John Elway 5. Peyton Manning 6. Dan Marino 7. Brett Favre 8. Roger Staubach 9. Terry Bradshaw 10. Steve young Honestly, you could argue about 5-6 more guys for the last couple spots..otto graham, Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, etc etc.

08-26-2015, 12:41 AM	#29
Jay9Suited Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,266	I don't want to turn this into a Brady vs. Montana thread.. But if you don't have them as your 1-2 punch your list is incorrect. I'll post my top 5 as 6-10 can be interchanged with 20+ QB's.. 1 - Brady 2 - Montana 3 - Elway 4 - Manning 5 - Marino

08-26-2015, 09:59 AM	#38
the mesiah Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,939	10.Otto Graham 9.Terry Bradshaw 8.steve Young 7.Roger Staubach 6.Johnny Unitas 5.Dan Marino 4.Peyton manning 3.John Elway 2.Tom Brady 1.Joe Montana

08-26-2015, 11:44 AM	#44
Kefka891 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 957	Anyone that doesn't have Brady as #1 is trolling or salty of Brady's dominance. Even cool joe himself would have struggled against the Seattle D. Joe Montana is an argument for GOAT, but never played any epic defenses like that in the super bowl. Plus, the difference between Brady and Montana's SB results is, Brady led the game winning drives and his defense ultimately failed to make the stops, while Montanas held up. So lol at the 4-0 over 4-2 argument, which is absurd anyways because making 6 SB's and winning 4 and is better than winning 4 and failing to get there otherwise. Brady #1.

08-26-2015, 11:52 AM	#45
bojesphob Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 3,794 bojesphob	Personally, I don't think you can compare QBs today to QBs in other eras. Dan Marino would probably have won 3 Super Bowls and had even more insane stats had his receivers had the protection they have today... But, he played in the 80's. I think it's even tough to compare Marino to Favre, mainly because the rules had changed enough at the end of Marino's career versus the end of Favre's career. Brady, in today's game is one of the best. Would he have done as well in an era where he would be piledriven into the ground when sacked, or when he had a few teeth knocked out? Personally, I don't believe so, but that's the problem, there's no real way to compare them. Would Tony Canadeo or Babe Parilli been HOF QBs in today's game? Personally, I feel if you are going to do a top 10 list, then it has to be by era, because otherwise you're doing a disservice to those that played at times where QBs weren't featured (and yet still did amazingly well). As such, we should do pre-merger, post-merger to the offensive rule changes of 1978 (and maybe a bit after that as well), then from the 78 rule changes to Free Agency in 93, then 93 to the last major offensive rule change, which was what, around 2004? I can't remember that bit at the moment. But to try to compare Otto Graham to Steve Young isn't fair to either of them