Official Tommy John Surgery Thread - Page 2

xbignick · 05-14-2014, 10:10 PM

High school pitcher throws 194 pitches in 14 innings - MaxWire National Blog - MaxPreps

mainerunr · 05-14-2014, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xbignick

High school pitcher throws 194 pitches in 14 innings - MaxWire National Blog - MaxPreps

The kid who caught the first 14 innings pitched the last 3 innings too...and then he pitched 7 innings in the second game that day...

CincinnatiReds · 05-14-2014, 10:35 PM

Lol just thought Id post this.

death2redemptions · 05-14-2014, 11:10 PM

Pitch count isn't the problem.

The pitchers who are most susceptible are the ones who have been throwing sliders/curveballs (breaking pitches) for a long time.

duwal · 05-15-2014, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by joey_peapod

I have an idea, why don't all pitchers just get TJ surgery right after high school? Get it out of the way since it's inevitable and boom they are good to go!

until they need their second TJ surgery

joey_peapod · 05-15-2014, 08:30 PM

The problem is kids throwing curvs when they are 10! I used to pitch and my arm would hurt after throwing curvs and sliders through my 20s. All that wear and tear catches up to you.

You can throw a lot of pitches zags long as they are all fastballs and change ups.

mwash1983 · 05-17-2014, 03:40 PM

Might want to add Andrew Cashner.

Padres place Andrew Cashner on 15-day DL with sore elbow - CBSSports.com

death2redemptions · 05-17-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Might want to add Andrew Cashner.

Padres place Andrew Cashner on 15-day DL with sore elbow - CBSSports.com

The bearer of bad news has spoken...

exitmusicblue · 05-17-2014, 04:52 PM

Our ol' A's stud Mark Mulder on TJS.. he makes some solid points, esp. that it's always been the pitchers with hard/high-velocity breaking balls that get hurt -

Why should a team not monitor a young pitcher's workload? Mark Mulder on The Turn - 101Sports.com

Wolves4Life · 05-17-2014, 06:54 PM

Add Martin Perez.

sideout1212 · 05-17-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joey_peapod

I have an idea, why don't all pitchers just get TJ surgery right after high school? Get it out of the way since it's inevitable and boom they are good to go!

I actually don't think pre-emptive TJ surgery is out of the question at some point, perhaps for certain types of pitchers likely to need it. I read an article about this but forget where. I wonder where that would fall in PED type discussions though since it is not completely dissimilar.

mwash1983 · 05-28-2014, 05:07 PM

Add Matt Purke and Jose Cisnero

nikpounder · 05-28-2014, 05:20 PM

Dr. Andrews put out a position paper on the recent "epidemic" of TJ surgeries:
Position Statement for Tommy John Injuries in Baseball Pitchers

mwash1983 · 05-28-2014, 08:17 PM

James Wagner @JamesWagnerWP · 5m
Marlins starter Henderson Alvarez left today's game with right elbow stiffness, per press box announcement. Precautionary.

speedyjg13 · 04-06-2024, 07:45 PM

How many went down today?

Spencer Strider
Shane Bieber
Eury Perez
Jonathan Loaisaga

Any others?

fulltritty · 04-06-2024, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyjg13

How many went down today?

Spencer Strider
Shane Bieber
Eury Perez
Jonathan Loaisaga

Any others?

Jonathan Loaisaga isn't having Tommy John surgery. He's having the same surgery Ohtani had this past off season.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 04-06-2024, 07:50 PM

Rewind the clock and go back to the old times. A great pitcher coming up through little league and high school doesn't need to over tax his arm. Clemens played different sports and kept his arm fresh.

base set · 04-06-2024, 07:51 PM

Didn’t this used to be an annual thread?

Haven’t seen Death2Redemption’s name in a while.

speedyjg13 · 04-06-2024, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

Rewind the clock and go back to the old times. A great pitcher coming up through little league and high school doesn't need to over tax his arm. Clemens played different sports and kept his arm fresh.

I think year round travel ball at such a young age is leading to this.

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Originally Posted by base set

Didn’t this used to be an annual thread?

Haven’t seen Death2Redemption’s name in a while.

Used to be the annual thread back then, figure I bump this and we keep it all in one place.

majestik101 · 04-06-2024, 08:20 PM

Chances Ohtani ends up here?

I'll say 40%

fulltritty · 04-06-2024, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Chances Ohtani ends up here?

I'll say 40%

I mean he's already had 1 tommy john surgery and a UCL surgery.

TheHeel · 04-06-2024, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Chances Ohtani ends up here?

I'll say 40%

I’d put money on that.

majestik101 · 04-06-2024, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

I mean he's already had 1 tommy john surgery and a UCL surgery.

He is overdue for another procedure.

base set · 04-06-2024, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Chances Ohtani ends up here?

I'll say 40%

How about Cole?

fulltritty · 04-06-2024, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by base set

How about Cole?

Hopefully his elbow rehab works and he won't need surgery.

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death2redemptions Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Creeping in mama's cellar Posts: 59,303 ddavisaz	Pitch count isn't the problem. The pitchers who are most susceptible are the ones who have been throwing sliders/curveballs (breaking pitches) for a long time.

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mwash1983 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6,161	Might want to add Andrew Cashner. Padres place Andrew Cashner on 15-day DL with sore elbow - CBSSports.com

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exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Our ol' A's stud Mark Mulder on TJS.. he makes some solid points, esp. that it's always been the pitchers with hard/high-velocity breaking balls that get hurt - Why should a team not monitor a young pitcher's workload? Mark Mulder on The Turn - 101Sports.com

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mwash1983 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6,161	James Wagner @JamesWagnerWP · 5m Marlins starter Henderson Alvarez left today's game with right elbow stiffness, per press box announcement. Precautionary.

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