Pathetic NT pricing

[chrisfaceoff]

I wonder if anyone is gonna pull the trigger on the luck auto on football 1/1 for $40,000

[wingah]

Agreed. Gronk 2012 NT Auto 1/25 sold at auction for $56 yet another seller has the same card listed 11/25 for $138 or best offer. If the one numbered 1/25 only pulled in $56 you wont get anywhere near $138

[Crazybella8]

Someone did on the Tannehill for $9,999.99! Lol!!!

[ManInTheMirror]

Originally Posted by rbb147

Grant it these aren't the RPA's yet but I'm a little shocked for day 1 so far.

What does tnarg have to do with this?

[drumstyx89]

I opened 2 boxes and we did a case and played a poker game to determine the order in a hit draft. the two boxes were absolutely terrible. I got maybe $350 back combined and no RPA. Pulled a luck RPA and a Jamal Charles 1/1 in the group break, but unfortunately I finished 3rd and got a Kirk Cousins auto /49. That was probably my best card

[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

They're afraid of losing money yet they're buying a $500+ product...

Someone has a Russell Wilson Gladiators INSERT #/25 for $199 BIN (no best offer)!

Well considering many NT breakers are doing it for the flip, yeah they don't want to lose out on money.

I would say if you see a stupidly high BIN on this product with no BO they are fishing for offline offers.

[WallyatJCCards]

Might be one of the dumbest things I have read so far in 2013...

Generally, those who don't have the resources to buy a $3,000 are jealous and in turn, think of stupid ideas to penalize those who DO have the cards.

Originally Posted by panamamyers

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

[Carrbeaz]

There is so much entitlement in this thread lol

[SPauthentic84]

Originally Posted by panamamyers

eBay should charge 5% right off the top for any Buy it Now listing, whether it sells for that price or not.
If they put it up for $3,000, they have to pay $150 to list it. If you don't like that structure, list it at $0.99 and let it auction itself off.

So you can have those same people bid up your auctions and not pay?

[PatchCollector]

Ebay sales from this years NT don't look good.

[coltsnsox07]

The Luck RPA's seem to be the only big $, a gold/49 ended at $2100ish last night, a few /99 (all the same looking patches)ended at $2200, $1700, $1500, $1450, $1200, a single color patch ended at $910.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

The Luck RPA's seem to be the only big $, a gold/49 ended at $2100ish last night, a few /99 (all the same looking patches)ended at $2200, $1700, $1500, $1450, $1200, a single color patch ended at $910.

Even the Luck prices (while certainly big dollar) are pretty low compared to the last few years. Newton was a monster seller if I recall. Even Bradford, who was no where near the hobby power that Luck is, was a $1,200 card at one point - even more for the Ram Face patches (as I hate to remind myself for what I gave up for my Bradford NT 2 years ago)

I would have thought, for the first few months at least, that Luck was a $1,800-$2,000 card all day long - and if you're patient you can definitely get one for $1,500 or under right now.

[achilles01987]

Autographed cardboard is a bad investment. This is a hobby and should be treated as such...

[Clarka3]

well, from a PC perspective- Luke cards are selling for double what they normally would. I'm sure part of it is the "newness" of the product though.

[tltaylor89]

Panini prices themselves out of potential sales .They hired a new sales manager as well so maybe he is trying to see what he can squeeze out of people. $550 a box is till too much and then Panini preaches value per box .Stop buying their #@#@#@#@ and maybe they would step their games up .

[badsims]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Even the Luck prices (while certainly big dollar) are pretty low compared to the last few years. Newton was a monster seller if I recall. Even Bradford, who was no where near the hobby power that Luck is, was a $1,200 card at one point - even more for the Ram Face patches (as I hate to remind myself for what I gave up for my Bradford NT 2 years ago).

Dont forget about those patches! I only remeber the Bradfords /99 with ram heads and Newton's /99 with Panther faces selling higher then $2K. Luck doesn't have anthing that can match up!

And if your thinking it's just event worn crap anyway, the proof is in the pudding. Nicer patches sell better in NT RPA's.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by badsims

Dont forget about those patches! I only remeber the Bradfords /99 with ram heads and Newton's /99 with Panther faces selling higher then $2K. Luck doesn't have anthing that can match up!

And if your thinking it's just event worn crap anyway, the proof is in the pudding. Nicer patches sell better in NT RPA's.

Well yeah - the patches definitely make a difference - but the point is the same. Bradford as a player wasn't comparable to Luck, and still isn't of course, but he was getting $2K on those great patches.

Sure Luck just seems to have crappy 2 colors - but a $500 price difference on a player not nearly as good is pretty significant.

[badsims]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

The Luck RPA's seem to be the only big $, a gold/49 ended at $2100ish last night, a few /99 (all the same looking patches)ended at $2200, $1700, $1500, $1450, $1200, a single color patch ended at $910.

WOW, within 1 week there is a 1k differnce in the price of a luck /99! I would be pissed at myself if i bought a card for $2200 and could have waited 3 days and got one for half of that. Then again, i would be pissed at myself for spending $2200 on a modern day card.

[brose61]

they're going down as we speak. The first /99 went for $55, black /25 for ~$80ish, then a /49 for ~$40ish. Those things are terribly centered and a lot of sticker run off autos.

Originally Posted by Clarka3

well, from a PC perspective- Luke cards are selling for double what they normally would. I'm sure part of it is the "newness" of the product though.

[SPauthentic84]

I personally like the way these look....not as much as last years, but think they are probably still the nicest of this years.

Here is my question, are these still the top dog of rookie cards?

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by SPauthentic84

I personally like the way these look....not as much as last years, but think they are probably still the nicest of this years.

Here is my question, are these still the top dog of rookie cards?

I still think they are - but this year is definitely a 50/50 for love or hate.

Alot really depends on how you feel about the "event worn" patch stuff (as covered to death in other threads)

I've never really cared. I care about a clean signature. Others care a great deal. To me the patch just makes the card "look better" - I don't care if the guy wore the jersey or not - but I tend to be in the minority. It's just a card presentation thing to me.

These NT are still #'d to 99, still a top end product, and have clean signatures for the most part. I don't care if the 3 color patch is from some "event worn" item - but that's where the dividing line seems to be. Whether you care or not.

[hche]

The card companies made too many products. The market is saturated with all the rookie autos. Also, all those event worn patches.... (do we really want a name plate patch that said rookie?). Anyway, resale on Panini cards have not been good even for cards that look amazing.

[badsims]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Well yeah - the patches definitely make a difference - but the point is the same. Bradford as a player wasn't comparable to Luck, and still isn't of course, but he was getting $2K on those great patches.

Sure Luck just seems to have crappy 2 colors - but a $500 price difference on a player not nearly as good is pretty significant.

Comp / Att / Pct / Yds / Avg / TD / Int / Sck / QB Rate / RECORD / Over All
354 ...590...60.0..3,512..6.0.... 18.... 15.... 34.... 76.5..... 7-9.... miss PL Offs by tie
339 ...627...54.1..4,374..7.0.... 23.... 18.... 41.... 76.5..... 11-5..... R1 loss


I think sam and Andrew were very comparable in rookie years!

[hche]

Originally Posted by badsims

Comp / Att / Pct / Yds / Avg / TD / Int / Sck / QB Rate / RECORD / Over All
354 590 60.0 3,512 6.0 18 15 34 76.5 7-9 miss PO by tie
339 627 54.1 4,374 7.0 23 18 41 76.5 11-5 R1 loss


I think sam and Andrew were very comparable in rookie years!

Statistically, yes. But people think Luck will turn into a legend.

[badsims]

Originally Posted by hche

Statistically, yes. But people think Luck will turn into a legend.

People thought Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf and Dan McGuire were going to be something also. I know thats taking it to the other spectrum so how about Carson Palmer and Vince Young. Big time prospects that did well in the first year or 2 then .......FLAT!