Indiana Jones Heritage TREVOR GROVE

[ricksam]

this thread is reading like scoundrel board .. (where i'm usu called out lol)
over there the golden boys with anthony tans, danny kuangs, tony pernas, melike acars like to tell others what to do with a card they DONT own .. but sure as heck wish they did

dont let anyone guilt you into doing anything with YOUR card .. heck post it up all over to get more views - thecardmarket for "$1million OBO", ebay for $2999.99, or sketchcollectors.. maybe the artist's half cousin will want it and offer u 150 for it and then when you spit on that offer, they will lie about what u refused. go with a real offer ... maybe contact the artist - the artist might want that for their own collection - maybe he has posted that he's looking for it on facebook/meebo/pinterest/twitter/myspace - that should drive bounty hunters to pm u w low ball-offers ...

if competition heats up for it - then offer to cut it in half and sell the parts. ... that always gets puzzle hunters to increase their bid.

heck i see it on ebay now .. .. i got this .. and maybe in a week's time we'll see it posted here again bwahahaha

big bucks and do the humpdy dance

edit: good, now the OP got box price covered 189 over on ebay ..
and to the OP - dont delete this .. move to the ebay spam area so we watch if those making offers blink

[Zerokruel]

Originally Posted by t2554

So he would deprive himself of a card he wants because the seller wanted to try his hand on ebay? Sounds like a moron to me.

Really? Sounds like a buyer who doesn't want to be taken advantage of or part of market manipulation. If I know your willing to pay xxx, it's very easy for me to make sure that your bid is hit or beat early on and try to create a manipulated auction. Don't believe me? Go look at the recent completed auction priced for Nova sketches.

Back to that super collector real quick. I can tell you that I tried to middle man a deal for a friend to him. My friend wanted more than he would offer. He let it run on eBay, and came up about $80 under the offer he received from the guy.

[Zerokruel]

Originally Posted by ricksam

this thread is reading like scoundrel board .. (where i'm usu called out lol)
over there the golden boys with anthony tans, danny kuangs, tony pernas, melike acars like to tell others what to do with a card they DONT own .. but sure as heck wish they did

dont let anyone guilt you into doing anything with YOUR card .. heck post it up all over to get more views - thecardmarket for "$1million OBO", ebay for $2999.99, or sketchcollectors.. maybe the artist's half cousin will want it and offer u 150 for it and then when you spit on that offer, they will lie about what u refused. go with a real offer ... maybe contact the artist - the artist might want that for their own collection - maybe he has posted that he's looking for it on facebook/meebo/pinterest/twitter/myspace - that should drive bounty hunters to pm u w low ball-offers ...

if competition heats up for it - then offer to cut it in half and sell the parts. ... that always gets puzzle hunters to increase their bid.

heck i see it on ebay now .. .. i got this .. and maybe in a week's time we'll see it posted here again bwahahaha

big bucks and do the humpdy dance

edit: good, now the OP got box price covered 189 over on ebay ..
and to the OP - dont delete this .. move to the ebay spam area so we watch if those making offers blink

Agree - it's turned it to a crap fest on all of our parts... Well, not yours - you just got here!

I really do hope the OP gets what he wants for the card though.

[Hellfish]

It seems to me that if a buyer had a set amount they were willing to pay for a card, and they put that amount as their max bid without changing it then no one could run the price up on them. They would get the card for less than or equal to the amount they were willing to spend or not at all.

"sell it to me without talking to anyone else or else you're a moron" is the Mark Cuban way of doing business. It works if you have deep pockets, but I don't respect people who do business that way.

Principles only mean something if you stick beside them when its inconvenient.

[rice71]

Originally Posted by Zerokruel

I wish you luck.

I know a very large collector that once he gives an offer pre-ebay, he will not bid if it goes on auction. Doesn't like a card to be run up against him. Not saying you would do that, but it's very common.

I know theres one guy on eBay that is a huge sketch collector and he bids on auctions and not bin.

[Cujobyte]

Originally Posted by Hellfish

It seems to me that if a buyer had a set amount they were willing to pay for a card, and they put that amount as their max bid without changing it then no one could run the price up on them. They would get the card for less than or equal to the amount they were willing to spend or not at all.

"sell it to me without talking to anyone else or else you're a moron" is the Mark Cuban way of doing business. It works if you have deep pockets, but I don't respect people who do business that way.

Principles only mean something if you stick beside them when its inconvenient.

Look, I apologize if I came off offensive. I did not mean that, and am sorry.

I know the guy who opened and sold the Walking Dead Patch for $5,000. It' was Henry from Junior comics. He sold it directly to a high end collector, and yes avoided ebay due to him not only liking the collector but getting a fair offer.

And quite honestly Byron is right, high end collectors avoid ebay all the time once their pre-ebay offers are negated. And yes, despite what you think, will forget a particular card once it's up on ebay. I would never consider it "getting bullied", just getting an aggressive offer for the card. Of course I hope you get whatever you want for the card. Why would I wish otherwise? I play high stakes poker, so am always into "gambling", but in this particular case, after doing research I probably would have taken the $750 offer.

[t2554]

Originally Posted by Nicnac

That's not at all what he said. He said he didn't like the prospect of a card being run up against him. So, if he makes it clear he wants the card, and his offer is $900, his worry is that if it goes to ebay, the seller has a buddy ready to put $950 on it to force his hand.

What it sounded like to me was that he assumed it would be run up against him so he just stays away altogether. In situations like this where I try to negotiate a Buy it Now or off ebay price with a seller and they decline, 90% of the time I end up winning the auction for quite a bit lower than what I offered. The person has an idea of what I'm willing to pay but I still win it for quite a bit less. I know there are shillers out there but you shouldn't just assume it will be bid up because they know your previous offer.

[Zerokruel]

Originally Posted by t2554

What it sounded like to me was that he assumed it would be run up against him so he just stays away altogether. In situations like this where I try to negotiate a Buy it Now or off ebay price with a seller and they decline, 90% of the time I end up winning the auction for quite a bit lower than what I offered. The person has an idea of what I'm willing to pay but I still win it for quite a bit less. I know there are shillers out there but you shouldn't just assume it will be bid up because they know your previous offer.

I didn't say that at all....

Originally Posted by Zerokruel

I wish you luck.

I know a very large collector that once he gives an offer pre-ebay, he will not bid if it goes on auction. Doesn't like a card to be run up against him. Not saying you would do that, but it's very common.

I've tried to explain this to the best of my abilities, but there is no point. We can agree to disagree. Again, it may not matter at all.

Good luck on the auction and I hope it achieves your price and more.

[t2554]

Originally Posted by Zerokruel

I didn't say that at all....






I've tried to explain this to the best of my abilities, but there is no point. We can agree to disagree. Again, it may not matter at all.

Good luck on the auction and I hope it achieves your price and more.

And the sentence before what you bolded says "Doesn't like a card to be run up against him." That's what I was responding to.

I think we're all being a little too serious in this thread. Good luck selling the card, Hellfish.

[Zerokruel]

What happen? This card was an auction and now it's listed as a BIN/BO?

[cardbooker]

Originally Posted by Zerokruel

What happen? This card was an auction and now it's listed as a BIN/BO?

Boooooo!! That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to knowing this card's "true" market/auction value.

[Hellfish]

Since everyone seems interested in how this card performs, I will make it a point to update everyone with the final selling price (if there is one). I changed the auction to BIN so I can take offers to gauge interest and value. Of course I will sell it if the right offer comes along.

Also worth noting is that it looks like ONE collector owns almost HALF of the Trevor Grove sketches from this set. IndianaJames
SketchCollectors.com: Everything Sketch Cards

The $750 offer had contingencies like half now/half later, international shipping and rude as hell about the whole thing. I would most likely take the same offer under better circumstances.

If I wasn't so close to selling off my entire non sports card collection, then I'd do whatever I could to just keep it.

[Hellfish]

Just thought I'd mention that 10% of the winning amount will go to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. It's a great organization and I recommend everyone check it out if your feeling generous. They help sick kids who's families don't have the means to pay. I also added a much better scan.

[Jackg1980]

Why dont you start the bidding at 750$,

[baytowntex]

Originally Posted by Hellfish

Just thought I'd mention that 10% of the winning amount will go to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. It's a great organization and I recommend everyone check it out if your feeling generous. They help sick kids who's families don't have the means to pay. I also added a much better scan.

good deal .. i pulled these today

[redhusky2531]

Ive noticed a lot of negative comments throughout this forum and seriously its ridiculous. If you have a problem with his price, send him a pm and dont openly diss him. Its just bad manners. Hey Hellfish, amazing once in a life time pull! Hope you get more!

[Hellfish]

wow, super nice pulls Baytown! And thanks to all the people who have been supportive. I love this card more and more every time I look at it. I've been scrambling trying to find a way to justify keeping it. I'm a single father of two young boys, and I just got laid off. Looks like the "hobby" (addiction is more like it) will be the first sacrifice.

[THE_BEAST]

If you really do like trevors art (and who doesnt ), you could always commission a psc from him. Im not sure how much he charges, but artists of similar talent usually charge around $100 or so.

[baytowntex]

Originally Posted by THE_BEAST

If you really do like trevors art (and who doesnt ), you could always commission a psc from him. Im not sure how much he charges, but srtists of similar talent usually charge around $100 or so.

yes but that would not be equal to a licensed Indiana Jones collectible trading card

[THE_BEAST]

Originally Posted by baytowntex

yes but that would not be equal to a licensed Indiana Jones collectible trading card

As far as value goes, yes, you are correct. But if were talking about Aesthetics, its all about the commissioners appreciation of the artists work, and how much effort the artist puts into the piece.

[ricksam]

there are "rumors" of blanks (official, looking anyways, card stock) that some collectors / artists manage to find - somehow - from various sets that turn up
lotr, batman archives, dc legacy, woman of marvel, marvel masterpieces 2,3 are some examples .. dont recall indy though