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Fanatics and Psa run everything
We think this hobby is huge But it’s not .. in grand scheme nobody gives a truck about it Because no way this would fly in most other aspects of business |
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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Beckett surpassed SGC this year as number three in trading card grading market share.
With the acquisitions of SGC and BGS, PSA has now become a monopoly in the sports card grading space -- CGC only graded about 7% of all graded sports cards in November 2025. The only thing keeping PSA from becoming a full monopoly in the trading card grading space is CGC's share of the TCG market -- 25% share in November 2025. |
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What a bizarre time for the hobby. This train just isn't stopping.
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this whole hobby is becoming laughable at this point, not that it wasn't already.
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: San Francisco
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CU now has a prime opportunity to turn BGS 9's into 10's for their brand new buy-back program!
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: VA
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PSA-9.5
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In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum |
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I heard all of Nats 9s are going to become 11s
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Psa 9 > psa 10 |
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Join Date: May 2024
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yeah I don't get why people are losing their minds. This was a forgone conclusion for a couple years now. BGS hasn't been relevant in god knows how long.
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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They're still popular for their black label. A lot BGS slabs still in circulation. They could have expanded like CGC if they had the financial backing.
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Plus no upcharge scam. For now. |
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We'll never know now. |
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PSA essentially let SGC die after acquisition, in what world would they not allow the same scenario to play out at Beckett? This all inevitably leads (it pretty much already has) to PSA changing their base line grading to $50+ per card, and the fan boys will still submit in bulk. It's sad what's happened overall to this hobby since Fanatics took over - if you're not a gambler or a high dollar investor, you're pretty much boxed out.
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They should but this industry isn't big enough to warrant such scrutiny/attention. Just makes me scratch my head how BGS and SGC gave into PSA. Offers must've been very good. If not, how could they not see they had an established brand in the hobby and they could gain market share by improving?
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Gotta get as bloated as possible for the IPO, this is standard operating procedure.
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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PSA’s first move with BGS is going to be a crackdown on black label rates.
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I love PSA! |
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The Federal Trade Commission has an Antitrust Complaint site if you truly believe this is wrong
https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/...mplaint-intake |
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I find this interesting, but not surprising. The most surprising thing is that Collectors did it and not Fanatics. When CU bought SGC, it was thought of as trying to beat Fanatics to the punch. I am "in this business" pretty consistently and the most surprising part of the article to me was about SGC losing market share at the level they have. I assume that is because the super cheap, set specific, promos with SGC went away with the merger, so their overall numbers went down. I assume that a lot of the cards not graded with SGC because of the lack of promos, ended up at PSA, so not a bad move by them.
FWIW, at the show in Philly this past weekend, and for the first time in a long time, I heard a pretty smart guy try to convince me that I should be grading my One Piece with Beckett because they get a lot of 10's and black labels. Maybe that is a direction BGS could grow, if CU even wants them to grow. This very well could just be another brick in the defensive wall keeping out any future competition. Also, with Beckett's declining market share, I expect this deal was not a large price compared to CU's bottom line.
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If you have to explain why it's a 1/1, then it's NOT a 1/1. Looking for Andre Dawson Serial numbered cards that are his jersey number - either #8 or #10. So looking for cards like 8/8 or 08/99 or 10/250. Last edited by ddearing; 12-16-2025 at 07:19 AM. |
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2025 Chinese Pikachu/Gengar prices BGS 10 Black $6000 BGS 10 $1800 PSA 10 $1400 BGS 9.5 $875 BGS receives such little volume because people are only subbing cards that have a chance at a black label. Versus CGC where people are subbing their crap that they know is not a PSA 10 but they can get a CGC 10 out of. At least for Pokemon, the issue is usually the back corners, which is easily identified online. Three white back corners? No problem, still CGC 10 worthy.
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