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Old 09-30-2025, 08:20 AM   #26
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The finalist should look like this.

DEFENSIVE BACKS : *-Darren Woodson (S).

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Terrell Suggs was a jerk to me in College

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Did he wear cargo shorts?
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Old 09-30-2025, 11:05 AM   #28
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Did he wear cargo shorts?
Probably

There was an A&F on Mill Avenue when I was there and that’s when Abercrombie was still super legit

It’s also hot there

So yes… I’m going to say he wore cargo shorts

Flat fronts were cheaper so that’s what us normal students wore
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Probably

There was an A&F on Mill Avenue when I was there and that’s when Abercrombie was still super legit

It’s also hot there

So yes… I’m going to say he wore cargo shorts

Flat fronts were cheaper so that’s what us normal students wore
cheaper?? what are you, a poor?
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Veterans' eligible list.

QUARTERBACKS (5): Ken Anderson, Charlie Conerly, Roman Gabriel, Jack Kemp, Don Meredith.

RUNNING BACKS (6): Ottis Anderson, Larry Brown, Roger Craig, Chuck Foreman, Cecil Isbell, Paul “Tank” Younger.

WIDE RECEIVERS/TIGHT ENDS (9): Mark Clayton, Isaac Curtis, Lavvie Dilweg, Henry Ellard, Harold Jackson, Billy "White Shoes” Johnson, Stanley Morgan, Art Powell, Otis Taylor.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (11): Jay Hilgenberg, Chris Hinton, Joe Jacoby, Mike Kenn, Bob Kuechenberg, Marvin Powell, Dick Schafrath, Jerry Sisemore, Walt Sweeney, Jim Tyrer, Al Wistert.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (4): L.C. Greenwood, Ed “Too Tall” Jones, Jim Marshall, Harvey Martin.

LINEBACKERS (8): Carl Banks, Maxie Baughan, Mike Curtis, Larry Grantham, Lee Roy Jordan, Clay Matthews Jr., Matt Millen, Tommy Nobis.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (8): Dick Anderson, Bobby Boyd, Pat Fischer, Lester Hayes, Albert Lewis, Eddie Meador, Lemar Parrish, Everson Walls.

SPECIAL TEAMS (1): Steve Tasker.


I'm thinking it will be Ken Anderson and LC Greenwood.
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Old 10-02-2025, 05:11 PM   #32
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Veterans' eligible list.

QUARTERBACKS (5): Ken Anderson, Charlie Conerly, Roman Gabriel, Jack Kemp, Don Meredith.

RUNNING BACKS (6): Ottis Anderson, Larry Brown, Roger Craig, Chuck Foreman, Cecil Isbell, Paul “Tank” Younger.

WIDE RECEIVERS/TIGHT ENDS (9): Mark Clayton, Isaac Curtis, Lavvie Dilweg, Henry Ellard, Harold Jackson, Billy "White Shoes” Johnson, Stanley Morgan, Art Powell, Otis Taylor.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (11): Jay Hilgenberg, Chris Hinton, Joe Jacoby, Mike Kenn, Bob Kuechenberg, Marvin Powell, Dick Schafrath, Jerry Sisemore, Walt Sweeney, Jim Tyrer, Al Wistert.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (4): L.C. Greenwood, Ed “Too Tall” Jones, Jim Marshall, Harvey Martin.

LINEBACKERS (8): Carl Banks, Maxie Baughan, Mike Curtis, Larry Grantham, Lee Roy Jordan, Clay Matthews Jr., Matt Millen, Tommy Nobis.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (8): Dick Anderson, Bobby Boyd, Pat Fischer, Lester Hayes, Albert Lewis, Eddie Meador, Lemar Parrish, Everson Walls.

SPECIAL TEAMS (1): Steve Tasker.
If I could take a couple guys off this list I would go Jim Marshall and Clay Matthews Jr.
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The fact that Clay Matthews Jr is still not in the hall is a crime

-Led NFL in forced fumbles (‘83)
-Led NFL in tackles (‘78, ‘79, ‘81, ‘84)
-9th all time in tackles (1,595)
-16th most games started by any player (248) #DawgPound
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The fact that Clay Matthews Jr is still not in the hall is a crime

-Led NFL in forced fumbles (‘83)
-Led NFL in tackles (‘78, ‘79, ‘81, ‘84)
-9th all time in tackles (1,595)
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I agree if anybody deserves enshrinement as a senior candidate it's him...
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I agree if anybody deserves enshrinement as a senior candidate it's him...
If you compare him to other LB’s? It’s a travesty
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The 52 Modern-Era Players whose names now move to the full Selection Committee for further consideration for election as members of the Class of 2026 are:
(*-Finalist (final 15) for the Class of 2025. Underline indicates first year of eligibility.)

QUARTERBACKS (3): Drew Brees, *Eli Manning, Philip Rivers.

RUNNING BACKS (8): Warrick Dunn, Eddie George, Frank Gore, Marshawn Lynch, LeSean McCoy, Lorenzo Neal (FB), *Fred Taylor, Ricky Watters.

WIDE RECEIVERS (7): Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, *Torry Holt, Jimmy Smith, *Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward, *Reggie Wayne.

TIGHT ENDS (2): Greg Olsen, Jason Witten.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (12): *Willie Anderson (T), Lomas Brown (T), Ruben Brown (G), *Jahri Evans (G), Olin Kreutz (C), Nick Mangold (C), Logan Mankins (G), Maurkice Pouncey (C), Richmond Webb (T), Erik Williams (T), Steve Wisniewski (G), *Marshal Yanda (G).

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (6): John Abraham (DE also LB), Robert Mathis (DE), Haloti Ngata (DT), Simeon Rice (DE), Vince Wilfork (DT/NT), Kevin Williams (DT).

LINEBACKERS (4): London Fletcher, James Harrison, *Luke Kuechly, *Terrell Suggs.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (6): Rodney Harrison (S), Asante Samuel (CB), Earl Thomas (S), Charles Tillman (CB), Troy Vincent (CB), *Darren Woodson (S).

PUNTERS/KICKERS (3): Gary Anderson (K), Shane Lechler (P), *Adam Vinatieri (K).

SPECIAL TEAMS (1): Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB).
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Dang. Nick Collins didn't make the cut.

Obviously didn't expect him to, but he's high up on my all-time favorite Packers list.
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The 52 Modern-Era Players whose names now move to the full Selection Committee for further consideration for election as members of the Class of 2026 are:

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (12): *Willie Anderson (T), Lomas Brown (T), Ruben Brown (G), *Jahri Evans (G), Olin Kreutz (C), Nick Mangold (C), Logan Mankins (G), Maurkice Pouncey (C), Richmond Webb (T), Erik Williams (T), Steve Wisniewski (G), *Marshal Yanda (G).

Veterans' eligible list.


OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (11): Jay Hilgenberg, Chris Hinton, Joe Jacoby, Mike Kenn, Bob Kuechenberg, Marvin Powell, Dick Schafrath, Jerry Sisemore, Walt Sweeney, Jim Tyrer, Al Wistert.

Kreutz has to get in sooner or later. He is the only O-Lineman on the 2000's All Decade Team to not be in yet. 2 X 1st Team All Pro, 6 straight Pro Bowls and 2006 NFC Champs. He was the best center of his generation not named Kevin Mawae.

Hilgenberg is not in yet due to Bears Bias. They have so many players from the 1985 Super Bowl team in already. But Hilgy had 7 straight pro Bowls, 2 X 1st team & 2 X 2nd team All Pro honors. He was the rock of that Bears O-Line that dominated throughout the 80's.
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Not sure about Kreutz. He was really good, but you have to compare him to other HoF Centers, and his resume is pretty light comparatively. All the other OL on that All-Decade team had multiple AP1's, and six total. He had one and an AP2. Jeff Saturday had an additional AP1, same number of PBs and won a Super Bowl, but he didn't even make the cut.
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How do I fill out a Giants only ballot, because why not lol

Charlie Conerly
Ottis Anderson
Carl Banks
Everson Walls
Eli Manning
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Not sure about Kreutz. He was really good, but you have to compare him to other HoF Centers, and his resume is pretty light comparatively. All the other OL on that All-Decade team had multiple AP1's, and six total. He had one and an AP2. Jeff Saturday had an additional AP1, same number of PBs and won a Super Bowl, but he didn't even make the cut.
And yet, he survived the cut from 128 players to 52. And Saturday didn't. So...

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Warrick Dunn making the cut
Mike Alstott not making the cut

Make it make sense
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And yet, he survived the cut from 128 players to 52. And Saturday didn't. So...

I get it. I think they're comparable players. I just don't think it bodes well for his chances when there's a guy with a slightly better resume who's not being considered, at a position that's seen two guys inducted who have played a game in the past 35 years.
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Warrick Dunn making the cut
Mike Alstott not making the cut

Make it make sense
I love Alstott but that FB position is just always going to be undervalued in this modern world we live in.
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The fact that Clay Matthews Jr is still not in the hall is a crime

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No one cares about tackles though. Jessie Tuggle and London Fletcher come to mind. Getting 6.5 sacks at age 40 with the falcons is HOF worthy though.
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I would think it will be an offense heavy class. The defense list (especially at linebacker and defensive backs) only should have a couple to make the next cut. Whereas you got multiple in every offensive position (just one TE).
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The 2018 and 2019 team that Mahomes absolutely dominated on was the same team that Alex Smith didnt dominate on. If Alex Smith gets in is there some other REAL Hall of Fame that good players like Mahomes will go into? None of this makes logical sense and most players on this list were average at best.
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The 2018 and 2019 team that Mahomes absolutely dominated on was the same team that Alex Smith didnt dominate on. If Alex Smith gets in is there some other REAL Hall of Fame that good players like Mahomes will go into? None of this makes logical sense and most players on this list were average at best.
First list of 128 or more less the eligible players. Alex Smith didn't make the new cut down list of 52 players. The Qbs that made it were Brees, Manning, and Rivers which feels right. There are still some on the 52 which I don't think have any chance, but that list will be cut in half again and those should be purged out.

The 128 list is the same as the baseball HOF ballet. There are first time players put on the list every year who won't get any votes. It is a nod to a respectable career.
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The 2018 and 2019 team that Mahomes absolutely dominated on was the same team that Alex Smith didnt dominate on. If Alex Smith gets in is there some other REAL Hall of Fame that good players like Mahomes will go into? None of this makes logical sense and most players on this list were average at best.
2016 the Chiefs went 12-4, drafted Chris Jones & Cheetah. And had 9 players in the NFL Top 100. 5 All Pros and 7 Pro Bowlers. Smith had 3500+ yards in 15 games.

2017 the Chiefs went 10-6, drafted Hunt. Smith was 9-4 before they sat him as their playoff spot was locked up. They had 6 players in the top 100. Including Smith. Smith tossed for over 4,000 yards, 26 TDs 5 INT and a rating of 105 in his 15 games.

2018 Smith was traded. Not saying Mahomes isn't good, as he is great. But the Chiefs already had pieces in place to win. It just all started clicking by the time Patty Cakes was tossing the ball.

Chiefs were a playoff team for years under Smith. They were winning their division and he was putting up great numbers. His last year with them, he made the Pro Bowl and lead the league in passer rating. It doesnt make him a HOFer. But it does show Mahomes didn't take a trash team and make them good. He took an already great team under Smith, and made them better.

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HOF finalist list down to 26

Willie Anderson, OT -- 1996-2007 Cincinnati Bengals, 2008 Baltimore Ravens | (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 -- 2021-26)
Drew Brees, QB -- 2001-05 San Diego Chargers, 2006-2020 New Orleans Saints | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Lomas Brown, OT -- 1985-1995 Detroit Lions, 1996-98 Arizona Cardinals, 1999 Cleveland Browns, 2000-01 New York Giants, 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Jahri Evans, G -- 2006-2016 New Orleans Saints, 2017 Green Bay Packers | (Times as a Semifinalist: 4 -- 2023-26)
Larry Fitzgerald, WR -- 2004-2020 Arizona Cardinals | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Frank Gore, RB -- 2005-2014 San Francisco 49ers, 2015-17 Indianapolis Colts, 2018 Miami Dolphins, 2019 Buffalo Bills, 2020 New York Jets | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Rodney Harrison, S -- 1994-2002 San Diego Chargers, 2003-08 New England Patriots | (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 -- 2021, 2023-26)
Torry Holt, WR -- 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars | (Times as a Semifinalist: 12 -- 2015-2026)
Luke Kuechly, LB -- 2012-19 Carolina Panthers | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Eli Manning, QB -- 2004-2019 New York Giants | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Robert Mathis, DE/LB -- 2003-2016 Indianapolis Colts | (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 -- 2022-26)
Philip Rivers, QB -- 2004-2019 San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers, 2020 Indianapolis Colts | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Steve Smith Sr., WR -- 2001-2013 Carolina Panthers, 2014-16 Baltimore Ravens | (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 -- 2022-26)
Terrell Suggs, LB/DE -- 2003-2018 Baltimore Ravens, 2019 Arizona Cardinals, 2019 Kansas City Chiefs | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Fred Taylor, RB -- 1998-2008 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2009-2010 New England Patriots | (Times as a Semifinalist: 7 -- 2020-26)
Earl Thomas, DB -- 2010-18 Seattle Seahawks, 2019 Baltimore Ravens | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Adam Vinatieri, PK -- 1996-2005 New England Patriots, 2006-2019 Indianapolis Colts | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Hines Ward, WR -- 1998-2011 Pittsburgh Steelers | (Times as a Semifinalist: 10 -- 2017-2026)
Reggie Wayne, WR -- 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts | (Times as a Semifinalist: 7 -- 2020-26)
Richmond Webb, OT -- 1990-2000 Miami Dolphins, 2001-02 Cincinnati Bengals | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
Vince Wilfork, DT-- 2004-2014 New England Patriots, 2015-16 Houston Texans | (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 -- 2022-26)
Kevin Williams, DT -- 2003-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014 Seattle Seahawks, 2015 New Orleans Saints | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Steve Wisniewski, G -- 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders | (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 -- 2014, 2025-26)
Jason Witten, TE -- 2003-2019 Dallas Cowboys, 2020 Las Vegas Raiders | (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 -- 2026)
Darren Woodson, S -- 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys | (Times as a Semifinalist: 10 -- 2015, 2017, 2019-2026)
Marshal Yanda, OL -- 2007-2019 Baltimore Ravens | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 -- 2025-26)
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