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Old 05-20-2025, 08:36 PM   #26
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As the vast majority have alluded to; auto checklist is PURE...TRASH! Outside of 2 (perhaps,...three??) RC/RPA autos (Penix Jr. & McCarthy), there's quite literally....not a single, average auto...that'll [reasonably] getcha' ~/+ $50! (and that's being...."generous"!)

Additionally, this release has some sort of "LEGENDS-esque" type of insert set, with names such as: Marino, Montana, Elway, Sanders, The Mannings, etc., but nary a single Legend Auto...to be found...!?! Heck; one can't turn on any channel (be it the traditional "boob toob" or YouTube, for that matter)...and not see that Poopnini/Mahomes, exclusive commercial!? Yet they couldn't even throw a handful,...say #/15,...#/10,...and a 1 of 1...of Ma-homie, in this..."premium product"...?


Indeed, basketball, was a "fun", somewhat-pleasant surprise! However, for the average IDIOT who bought into this football release; prepare to [most likely] have your YOU-KNOW-WHATS....SMASHED!


NOTE: I'm such an idiot, I'm in for 3X the smashin'!
You can call me an idiot too..I bought some. I know the risks. I know the vet auto checklist sucks. Just hoping for some good rookie color
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Old 05-20-2025, 08:54 PM   #27
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I just really like the look of the base color parallels...kinda sucks that the autos are so terrible...I would say we were spoiled in the 2000s and 2010s for the game used jerseys and patches and deep auto checklists...but that should really just be the norm. Why produce NFL cards if you can't provide collectors with the autos and patches of the best players and most exciting rookies?
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Old 05-20-2025, 09:10 PM   #28
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I just really like the look of the base color parallels...kinda sucks that the autos are so terrible...I would say we were spoiled in the 2000s and 2010s for the game used jerseys and patches and deep auto checklists...but that should really just be the norm. Why produce NFL cards if you can't provide collectors with the autos and patches of the best players and most exciting rookies?
Because flipper bois will buy anything new and shiny regardless of what it says on the front or the back. Most anyone who's been in the hobby for an extended amount of time should know by now that the jerseys and patches used in today's cards are off the rack from Dick's Sporting Goods.

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Old 05-20-2025, 09:16 PM   #29
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Why produce NFL cards if you can't provide collectors with the autos and patches of the best players and most exciting rookies?
Because people keep buying them in massive amounts no matter what garbage is in the product. NFL Football card hobby is so ugly right now.
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:23 PM   #30
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Congrats if you bought these. They will be $350 soon on eBay if what I'm hearing is true.
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:34 PM   #31
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Because people keep buying them in massive amounts no matter what garbage is in the product. NFL Football card hobby is so ugly right now.
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Old 05-21-2025, 08:15 AM   #32
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You can call me an idiot too..I bought some. I know the risks. I know the vet auto checklist sucks. Just hoping for some good rookie color
Yup! That'll basically be our/anyone's...."saving grace". Hit a Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams (and a few others)....#/10 or less, and you'll certainly be makin' the IF Sports Cards, Top 10 Retail Pulls of the Month!!

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Congrats if you bought these. They will be $350 soon on eBay if what I'm hearing is true.
The chap who came up with the 'ole adage; "A fool and his money, are soon parted",...HAD TO BE a sports card DEGEN and/or flipper!

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Old 05-21-2025, 01:41 PM   #33
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These somehow look more loaded than the NBA ones.

Now seeing multiple boxes with 13+ #d cards and pretty good shot at a lower #d (25 or less) per box.

Great score at MSRP if you got.
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Old 05-21-2025, 05:51 PM   #34
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These somehow look more loaded than the NBA ones.

Now seeing multiple boxes with 13+ #d cards and pretty good shot at a lower #d (25 or less) per box.

Great score at MSRP if you got.
But the autos! THE AUTOS!!!!!

lol I tried telling em
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Old 05-21-2025, 06:00 PM   #35
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But the autos! THE AUTOS!!!!!

lol I tried telling em
Yeah on these releases no one seems to care about the autos. The Illusions Premium boxes vast majority had 2 rookie patch autos and those boxes are worthless.
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Old 05-21-2025, 08:11 PM   #36
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But the autos! THE AUTOS!!!!!

lol I tried telling em
yeah it's so weird. everyone all of a sudden cares about sticker autos.

it's $175 minus Red Card discount for a hobby box of a hyped rookie QB class. i thought it was kind of a no-brainer.
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Old 05-22-2025, 10:16 AM   #37
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Yeah on these releases no one seems to care about the autos. The Illusions Premium boxes vast majority had 2 rookie patch autos and those boxes are worthless.
But what about the numbered parallels???? Don’t hardcore collectors pay big money to put together 87 card rainbows? Or am I not Fanaticing hard enough?
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Old 05-22-2025, 11:07 AM   #38
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no big case hits - downtown, uptown, horizontal - no one cares. guys already selling boxes on fb groups for a quick $30 profit per box.

lot of color for sure and will be curious to see what rc qb color sells for.
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Old 05-22-2025, 01:36 PM   #39
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Got my single box in today. Good news was there were 13 #d cards.
Bad news-3 of them were Chris Godwin!
Worse news-Auto was Kyle Van Noy. Ouch.
If you get a numbered rookie QB you probably do well, but the rest will likely be rough.
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Old 05-22-2025, 03:52 PM   #40
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I'll gladly take those Chris Godwins off your hands if you don't want them
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Old 05-22-2025, 04:40 PM   #41
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Opened 1 at retail. I'm done, no more for me. These are rough, and no real chase other than Jayden numbered.
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Old 05-23-2025, 10:29 PM   #42
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Opened my first two boxes. Highlights

Base Mirror Rookies
Jayden Daniels
Michael Penix Jr.
Bo Nix
J.J.McCarthy
Joe Milton
Ladd McConkey

Notable Inserts
Michael Penix Jr. The Mighty
Caleb Williams The Mighty
Malik Nabers The Mighty Mirror Red (/249)
Joe Burrow The Mighty Mirror Red (/249)
Tyreek Hill The Mighty Mirror Blue (/199)
Aaron Jones The Mighty Camo (/35)

Notable Base Parallels
Michael Penix Jr. Blue Mirror (/149)
Cooper DeJean Red Mirror (/249)
John Elway Purple Mirror Die Cut (/75)
Jordan Travis Purple Mirror Die Cut (/75)
C.J. Stroud Camo Mirror (/35)

Autographs/Memorabilia
Xavier Hutchingson Blue Mirror Auto (/50)
Darius Slayton Red Mirror Auto (/100)
Caleb Williams Blue Mirror 3 Color Patch (/75)
Malik Nabers Red Mirror 1 Color Patch (/99)
Austin Ekeler Red Mirror 3 Color Patch (/99)
Travis Etienne Mirror Jersey (/149)

Tons of color (22 base and insert parallels out of 2 boxes) but struck out on the majority of the names.
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Old 05-23-2025, 11:29 PM   #43
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I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong. And I was wrong, here!

The "bang-for-the-buck", factor,...alone, was enough to make this Retail-Hobby-Hybrid product (much like it's basketball counterpart), a winner! SHART TON of color/low #'ed cards, coupled with the fair & reasonable SRP price-point, was good enough to bring about, "an exciting rip" (though I still stand by the fact that the auto checklist [comparative to the basketball release] was/is in fact, THE POOPS!)

That said, two of my three boxes had Platinum Black 1 of 1's! Xavier Worthy GOLD TEAM, and Dak Prescott CERTIFIED TUDDY! Certainly beat the odds, there, but even if it weren't for those two...."bangers", I'd have to say that I was generally-pleased with the results. Furthermore, I am regretting that I didn't grab 3-6 more while I had the chance. Such is life, I suppose...!?

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Old 05-24-2025, 08:20 AM   #44
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Jefferson Black 1/1 base was 2nd from the top on my saved searches in newly listed sort for 230 and was out of stock the moment I clicked to view. I snoozed in a blink. Can’t own them all…
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Old 05-24-2025, 05:34 PM   #45
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I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong. And I was wrong, here!

The "bang-for-the-buck", factor,...alone, was enough to make this Retail-Hobby-Hybrid product (much like it's basketball counterpart), a winner! SHART TON of color/low #'ed cards, coupled with the fair & reasonable SRP price-point, was good enough to bring about, "an exciting rip" (though I still stand by the fact that the auto checklist [comparative to the basketball release] was/is in fact, THE POOPS!)

That said, two of my three boxes had Platinum Black 1 of 1's! Xavier Worthy GOLD TEAM, and Dak Prescott CERTIFIED TUDDY! Certainly beat the odds, there, but even if it weren't for those two...."bangers", I'd have to say that I was generally-pleased with the results. Furthermore, I am regretting that I didn't grab 3-6 more while I had the chance. Such is life, I suppose...!?

Two black 1/1's?? DAMN you crushed it!

I have opened one so far and hit a Jayden Fabric of the Game with a sick patch. Unfortunately doesn't pay for the box.
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Old 05-24-2025, 06:43 PM   #46
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I had never heard the word Tuddy used in my life..had to google the term. After reading what it meant. I was refreshed that no person I interact with, Football games I watch, or sports casts/shows I have watched have ever used that word. Brain rot
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Old 05-24-2025, 10:27 PM   #47
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Here's my Box 3 and 4 Results. Box 4 has been the best of the bunch

Notable Base Rookies/Inserts
Jayden Daniels
Bo Nix
Michael Penix Jr.
Malik Nabers
Malik Nabers Certified Tuddy
Jayden Daniels The Mighty

Memorabilia
Jayden Daniels Certified Materials Camo Parallel (/35)
Christian McCaffrey Fabric of The Game Red Mirror 3 Color Patch (/99)
Justin Jefferson Certified Materials Red Mirror (/99)
Garrett Wilson Fabric of The Game Red Mirror (/99)

Freshman Fabric RPA
Rome Odunze Blue Mirror (/50)

Autograph
Julian Love Team Certified Red Mirror (/100)

Parallels
Joe Burrow Camo (/35)
Bucky Irving Camo RC (/35)
Jordan Travis Purple Die Cut (/75)
Austin Ekeler Purple Die Cut (/75)
Kenneth Walker Orange (/99)
Tee Higgins Orange (/99)
Jahmyr Gibbs Blue (/149)
Travis Kelce Blue (/149)
John Lynch Blue (/149)
Malik Nabers Certified Tuddy RC Blue (/199)
Braelon Allen Certified Tuddy RC Blue (/199)
Aidan Hutchinson Gold Team Blue (/199)
Drew Brees Red (/249)
Matthew Stafford Red (/249)
AJ Brown Red (/249)
Jha'Quan Jackson Red RC (/249)
Aidan Hutchinson Red (/249)
Kirk Cousins Red (/249)
Jonah Elliss Red RC (/249)
Marvin Harrison Jr. Certified Tuddy Red RC (/249)
Xavier Worthy The Mighty Red RC (/249)

Pic of the Daniels Camo

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Old 05-25-2025, 08:30 AM   #48
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Bought one mega

Base Jaden and Nix, both in rough shape
Ladd /299
Auto of a rookie Raider 6th round LB
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Old 05-25-2025, 06:19 PM   #49
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Well..damn..my last box seemed to be the most loaded. Two Gold Mirrors numbered to 10 and a Metropolis Case hit..but unfortunately struck out on the names on all of them.

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Old 05-25-2025, 07:00 PM   #50
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These reminded me of a more expensive but also more guaranteed Hoops Premium Stock Premium boxes. Those did fine without autos and despite being on the low end of popular sets similar to Totally Certified brand, all it took was a hot rookie (Wemby there/Daniels here) and a bunch of numbered/sp possibilities. Comparing to NBA yeah one will be dissapointed, but I’m not sure how they are selling now but I think these will have a similar trajectory to hoops premium premium, possibly better if JJ or Penix break out.
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