Backyard Breaks getting loaded boxes?

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by 90skid

If you've never done it before, do yourself a favor and go watch the live stream of their breaks going on right now (just right on their website). They are ripping an insane amount of expensive basketball. I've never seen any breaker rip through this much expensive wax, this fast.

In example, just this afternoon they did the following:

41 hobby boxes (mix of prizm choice, hobby, optic choice, prizm white sparkle packs, 2019 optic contenders, box of noir, who knows what else they throw in)

$3,875 per spot, 8 spots (divisions)

1 person bought 4 spots ($15,500 are you kidding me...)
1 person bought 2 spots.
2 others filled it out then.

break opened at 1:46pm
filled at 2:04pm

That's $31,000 in revenue in 18 minutes.

Pretty sure the amount they break was accounted for when they did this dive and it's not as much as people think.

[mgsenny]

Originally Posted by 90skid

If you've never done it before, do yourself a favor and go watch the live stream of their breaks going on right now (just right on their website). They are ripping an insane amount of expensive basketball. I've never seen any breaker rip through this much expensive wax, this fast.

In example, just this afternoon they did the following:

41 hobby boxes (mix of prizm choice, hobby, optic choice, prizm white sparkle packs, 2019 optic contenders, box of noir, who knows what else they throw in)

$3,875 per spot, 8 spots (divisions)

1 person bought 4 spots ($15,500 are you kidding me...)
1 person bought 2 spots.
2 others filled it out then.

break opened at 1:46pm
filled at 2:04pm

That's $31,000 in revenue in 18 minutes.

what the hell? i mean, i guess these guys all probably knew the break was coming. that's a huge chunk of change to just...drop on a whim. though the industry is filled with degenerates and really rich people.

[Brad9187]

I have never bought into them, but I have watched them here and there on Tik Tok and seen some of their big hits. To me it is really impressive the audience they are building.

It has a Barstool feel to it and they are loud and boisterous and not for everyone. But you look at the business they are building even after some early mistakes like the TLaw Kaboom it is actually really impressive. It is way more entertainment that serious breaking and there is a huge audience for that. Good on them for building something.

Also I love Sports Card Radio, but this investigation seems like a dive into the conspiracy rabbit hole rather than the good work they usually produce.

[Kobe101]

Originally Posted by 90skid

If you've never done it before, do yourself a favor and go watch the live stream of their breaks going on right now (just right on their website). They are ripping an insane amount of expensive basketball. I've never seen any breaker rip through this much expensive wax, this fast.

In example, just this afternoon they did the following:

41 hobby boxes (mix of prizm choice, hobby, optic choice, prizm white sparkle packs, 2019 optic contenders, box of noir, who knows what else they throw in)

$3,875 per spot, 8 spots (divisions)

1 person bought 4 spots ($15,500 are you kidding me...)
1 person bought 2 spots.
2 others filled it out then.

break opened at 1:46pm
filled at 2:04pm

That's $31,000 in revenue in 18 minutes.

That is insane. Each spot probably loses $3,675

[boxbuster7]

Why would anybody give them loaded boxes? They are the scum of the earth. Just shows how low panini is willing to stoop for $. Anybody have Fanatics phone number?

[notfast]

My question is this:

Do we think they are buying direct from Panini for ALL of their product…months after release? Because thats not happening.

Or do we think they are getting loaded boxes and then sitting on them until a certain time…which is also months down the road from release?

Neither of these things seem realistic.

[JWBlue]

I have had my suspicions. The evidence is growing.

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

Hard to imagine that there would be a scheme in place for one breaker to pull the biggest hits but not a scheme in place to make sure said 7 figure cards don't stay in house as well.

Not out of the question.

[SupermanBrandon]

If you support BYB, you're either: an addict, a scammer or an idiot! There's no grey area.

[saraceno21]

Companies can hardly fill a redemption but you think they can coordinate juiced boxes? Come on guys.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by saraceno21

Companies can hardly fill a redemption but you think they can coordinate juiced boxes? Come on guys.

Card companies couldn't care less about redemptions. They already have your money. They are pushing their chips towards the middle on breaking. They 100% would coordinate some juiced boxes. Luber literally backed and supported BYB after some earlier issues. Fanatics is publicly supporting scammers while ignoring the hobby. Breakers are their new customers and mules.

[RogerGodahell]

Probably R. Kardashian buying up all the spots and a few others like him. Some people just live in a different world than the rest of us. $3K to them is like $30 to us. To them it's like buying a blaster at WM or Target.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

seems like all the most important thing to do is investigate the relationship between people hitting/selling the biggest hits and the breakers/panini.

Hard to imagine that there would be a scheme in place for one breaker to pull the biggest hits but not a scheme in place to make sure said 7 figure cards don't stay in house as well.

stay in house? you mean like panini? They release the products. they couldn't possibly do that.

[Kobe101]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Card companies couldn't care less about redemptions. They already have your money. They are pushing their chips towards the middle on breaking. They 100% would coordinate some juiced boxes. Luber literally backed and supported BYB after some earlier issues. Fanatics is publicly supporting scammers while ignoring the hobby. Breakers are their new customers and mules.

Yeah I don't think BYB would be in with both Fanatics and Paninni. People on Instagram are saying will this make Fanatics not want to buy Panini. Fanatics is probably involved in this if there is anything shady going on.

[cms11]

Which benefits Panini more to have open a top card:

1. Me opening a box at home.

2. A breaker with 100k subscribers, especially young future customers.

If I'm the CEO of Panini and want my business to grow, I'm going have the best cards opened by breakers for viewers to get excited about.

[HunterConnorMom]

Originally Posted by cms11

Which benefits Panini more to have open a top card:

1. Me opening a box at home.

2. A breaker with 100k subscribers, especially young future customers.

If I'm the CEO of Panini and want my business to grow, I'm going have the best cards opened by breakers for viewers to get excited about.

This 💯 %. That’s why the Lambo contest featured young breakers to bring in these audiences.

[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by saraceno21

Companies can hardly fill a redemption but you think they can coordinate juiced boxes? Come on guys.

sorry buddy, but this stuff has been going on for years

[bonerang]

Originally Posted by hmballin

Just saw this on twitter. Someone doing a data dive on some of the cards they have hit in the past year. Thought it could be an interesting discussion at the very least.

https://twitter.com/ericwhiteback/st...s0qVpz1xXDhUKw

The methodology used to come to the conclusion in this twitter thread is extremely suspect.

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by saraceno21

Companies can hardly fill a redemption but you think they can coordinate juiced boxes? Come on guys.

There have long been discussions about subtle identifiers on cases of product. It would not be that hard to direct said marked product to specific breakers.

[BlockShotStop]

Some of the posts rationalizing this from Panini’s perspective are ALARMING. This company is (potentially) defrauding consumers by funneling the biggest hits to specific large-scale customers and some sycophants are trying to defend it? We’ve really crossed the rubicon here. If these numbers reflect reality, and Panini’s conspicuous silence is speaking volumes, then this “hobby” is in a real crisis.

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by cms11

Which benefits Panini more to have open a top card:

1. Me opening a box at home.

2. A breaker with 100k subscribers, especially young future customers.

If I'm the CEO of Panini and want my business to grow, I'm going have the best cards opened by breakers for viewers to get excited about.

Yes, common sense from a business perspective.

[BlockShotStop]

Originally Posted by cms11

Which benefits Panini more to have open a top card:

1. Me opening a box at home.

2. A breaker with 100k subscribers, especially young future customers.

If I'm the CEO of Panini and want my business to grow, I'm going have the best cards opened by breakers for viewers to get excited about.

Except for the fact that it is fraud and probably violates consumer-protection statutes in multiple states. But yeah, amazing idea!

[cms11]

Originally Posted by BlockShotStop

Some of the posts rationalizing this from Panini’s perspective are ALARMING. This company is (potentially) defrauding consumers by funneling the biggest hits to specific large-scale customers and some sycophants are trying to defend it? We’ve really crossed the rubicon here. If these numbers reflect reality, and Panini’s conspicuous silence is speaking volumes, then this “hobby” is in a real crisis.

I'm not defending it, I just know these companies have zero ethics when there's money to be made.

[Arianny_Fan]

All I know is eventually shady business always goes down in a big fireball. When that day comes for these breakers everyone not involved will have the best laugh of their lives.

[duron]

Originally Posted by bonerang

The methodology used to come to the conclusion in this twitter thread is extremely suspect.

Can’t believe more people aren’t saying this

[Josie27]

I have no idea if there is any truth to this whatsoever. All I know is no corporation is immune to fraud and doing incredibly shady crap. It’s been fairly obvious that to get into real trouble, you need to get to Enron level corruption. Or even worse, stop making other people money.

The hobby isn’t exactly known as a beacon of truth and honesty.


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