eBay user: Jennpa_7399 & The Fake 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany Ken Griffey Jr - Page 2

DragonWagon · 04-29-2022, 01:54 PM

1989 traded may look the same as Tiffany, but they are printed on different card stock. If you put a tiffany card in a traded set or regular in a Tiffany , then you can easily see the difference.

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glen87 · 04-29-2022, 02:17 PM

in case of id change, this link will lead to the new id

jennpa_7399

https://www.ebay.com/usr/jennpa_7399...75.m3561.l2559

DynaEtch · 04-29-2022, 02:38 PM

New observation: Seller's most recent positive feedback is almost certainly a sham.

Here is the feedback:

Quote:

Received graded card back from PSA can’t wait to send this one. Thank you again. Great Seller!

And here is the problem....

the 0 feedback user leaving this has bid on 7 items, all 7 from this jennpa_7399 seller. What caught my eye is the price of the listing was $270.75, which if you click on the listing says it qualifies for Authenticity Guarantee. I thought that was odd...did a fake griffey tiffany get past the CSG graders? Nope: the problem is the listing ended April 25, just 4 days ago. There is no way that card could have been shipped to authenticator, even if was sent out right away on 4/26, authenticated, and then shipped out again, and get there in 3 days. This cannot happen.

Here is what very likely happened: it's a sham account that started outbidding once the bidding reached the Authenticity Guarantee threshold, which is now $250. Once bidding reached that, it's probable seller realized it would be a pointless waste of time since CSG would reject it, and so outbid making sure that sham account would win, and then leave the feedback.

Edit: after a discussion with ebay reps, the above feedback was removed. They said the item was still waiting for payment (yet a positive feedback was left by the buyer), confirming the seller indeed was using a sham account to win it and leave feedback for himself. Here is what seems to be the plan to dodge CSG:

-If selling at buy it now, sell below the threshold. The seller had multiple buy it now's sold for $349.99 in early to mid April, during the window the threshold price was 350.

-If selling at auction, use sham account to bid and win the item if the price crosses the threshold.

With the above scheme, the card wont be going to CSG, where they'd presumably catch it.

sickmantz · 04-29-2022, 05:49 PM

This is amazing. I've seen a lot of people mislabel Topps as Tiffanys, but I've never seen a counterfeit. Excellent work identifying this.

DragonWagon · 04-29-2022, 08:44 PM

Posting the sgc graded cards here, as a warning to potential future buyers that it may not be a legitimate Tiffany card.
1989 Ken Griffey Jr Topps Traded Tiffany SGC 10 cert# 3858851

1989 Ken Griffey Jr Topps Traded Tiffany SGC 9 cert# 3633776

DragonWagon · 05-05-2022, 06:29 AM

Now, jennpa_7399 is refusing to issue a refund and claiming “alternative intentions.” What, like not getting scammed!

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StateEx · 05-05-2022, 08:14 AM

Hate that this is happening, but great thread and super-interesting info re Tiffanys. eBay needs to take more measures to identify and exclude questionable sellers.

DragonWagon · 05-05-2022, 10:19 AM

Now he wants me to change the feedback bc he claims I am violating eBay’s privacy policy. I don’t want my review to get removed, any thought if I need to change it to remove the google search language?

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Cardboard Dawg · 05-05-2022, 11:38 AM

Seems like all of his listings have been taken down.

Also seems to be trying to snipe cards and run up the NPBs before being Thor hammered by eBay

smanzari · 05-05-2022, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

Now he wants me to change the feedback bc he claims I am violating eBay’s privacy policy. I don’t want my review to get removed, any thought if I need to change it to remove the google search language?

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No, Usernames are fair game according to CSRs (I regularly respond to Neutral/neg with them if it was a headache buyer for other sellers)

glen87 · 05-05-2022, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

Seems like all of his listings have been taken down.

Also seems to be trying to snipe cards and run up the NPBs before being Thor hammered by eBay

link to ebay page in case of name change

ebay - jennpa_7399

https://www.ebay.com/usr/jennpa_7399

pacman099 · 05-05-2022, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

Now he wants me to change the feedback bc he claims I am violating eBay’s privacy policy. I don’t want my review to get removed, any thought if I need to change it to remove the google search language?
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Don't change a thing... If he has issues, then he needs to sort that with eBay. Not your problem until eBay says it's an issue. That's how I would handle it.

and wow I am sorry to hear. It looks like ebay authentication saved someone which is super impressive to me.

Can we mass report this to ebay?

pip · 05-05-2022, 12:15 PM

An extremely dishonest and somewhat illiterate seller. I think he meant "ulterior" not "alternative." His account needs to be shut down by ebay.

Edited to add: I count at least 14 other buyers who were defrauded.

mc1 · 05-05-2022, 12:15 PM

Feedback now shows that followup has been removed by ebay. At least the original feedback is still there.

DragonWagon · 05-05-2022, 01:14 PM

Well it’s too bad they removed the response, but at least eBay refunded me.

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DragonWagon · 03-20-2023, 10:27 AM

He's back!!!
jennpa_7399 is now mrpiggam-0 and looks to be continuing to run the same Fake 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany scam.

Jennpa_7399 https://www.ebay.com/usr/jennpa_7399

mrpiggam-0 https://www.ebay.com/usr/mrpiggam-0

corndog · 03-20-2023, 10:45 AM

Excellent work and thanks for staying on top of this!

NYRE2PECT · 03-20-2023, 12:03 PM

Great catch - hope that they get shut off again.

Lonewolf · 03-20-2023, 12:11 PM

Scum...scum everywhere

DragonWagon · 03-25-2023, 05:55 PM

eBay user jennpa_7399 is buying cards from his newer account mrpigamm-0 for cheap to boost mrpigamm-0 feedback score.

NYRE2PECT · 03-25-2023, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

eBay user jennpa_7399 is buying cards from his newer account mrpigamm-0 for cheap to boost mrpigamm-0 feedback score.

Unreal - what a ding dong.

DragonWagon · 03-25-2023, 06:17 PM

eBay user jennpa_7399 is also shill bidding on his 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany cards, which have previously been exposed as fake, on his newer account mrpigamm-0
https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/ViewBidder...p2471758.m4792

04-29-2022, 02:17 PM	#27
glen87 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: VERMONT Posts: 74,495 glen87 glen87	in case of id change, this link will lead to the new id jennpa_7399 https://www.ebay.com/usr/jennpa_7399...75.m3561.l2559 __________________ collecting James Madison University players of all sports JMU cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmucards/ other cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/glen87/albums

04-29-2022, 05:49 PM	#29
sickmantz Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA Posts: 2,471 vashthe84	This is amazing. I've seen a lot of people mislabel Topps as Tiffanys, but I've never seen a counterfeit. Excellent work identifying this. __________________ In a system built on racism, status quo sustains it.

05-05-2022, 12:15 PM	#38
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	An extremely dishonest and somewhat illiterate seller. I think he meant "ulterior" not "alternative." His account needs to be shut down by ebay. Edited to add: I count at least 14 other buyers who were defrauded. __________________ Dealers to avoid -- https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=14831085&postcount=1 Last edited by pip; 05-05-2022 at 12:18 PM.

05-05-2022, 12:15 PM	#39
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	Feedback now shows that followup has been removed by ebay. At least the original feedback is still there. __________________ B.I.D.

03-20-2023, 10:27 AM	#41
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	eBay user: Jennpa_7399 & The Fake 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany Ken Griffey Jr He's back!!! jennpa_7399 is now mrpiggam-0 and looks to be continuing to run the same Fake 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany scam. Jennpa_7399 https://www.ebay.com/usr/jennpa_7399 mrpiggam-0 https://www.ebay.com/usr/mrpiggam-0

04-29-2022, 01:54 PM	#26
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	1989 traded may look the same as Tiffany, but they are printed on different card stock. If you put a tiffany card in a traded set or regular in a Tiffany , then you can easily see the difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-29-2022, 08:44 PM	#30
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	Posting the sgc graded cards here, as a warning to potential future buyers that it may not be a legitimate Tiffany card. 1989 Ken Griffey Jr Topps Traded Tiffany SGC 10 cert# 3858851 1989 Ken Griffey Jr Topps Traded Tiffany SGC 9 cert# 3633776

05-05-2022, 06:29 AM	#31
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	Now, jennpa_7399 is refusing to issue a refund and claiming “alternative intentions.” What, like not getting scammed! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-05-2022, 08:14 AM	#32
StateEx Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,098	Hate that this is happening, but great thread and super-interesting info re Tiffanys. eBay needs to take more measures to identify and exclude questionable sellers.

05-05-2022, 10:19 AM	#33
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	Now he wants me to change the feedback bc he claims I am violating eBay’s privacy policy. I don’t want my review to get removed, any thought if I need to change it to remove the google search language? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-05-2022, 11:38 AM	#34
Cardboard Dawg Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 568	Seems like all of his listings have been taken down. Also seems to be trying to snipe cards and run up the NPBs before being Thor hammered by eBay

05-05-2022, 01:14 PM	#40
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	Well it’s too bad they removed the response, but at least eBay refunded me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-20-2023, 10:45 AM	#42
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 18,626	Excellent work and thanks for staying on top of this! __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

03-20-2023, 12:03 PM	#43
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,610	Great catch - hope that they get shut off again. __________________ Primarily retired from collecting, but doing a Greatest Sho-man binder thing. I do love California Angels baseball.

03-20-2023, 12:11 PM	#44
Lonewolf Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: California Posts: 4,502	Scum...scum everywhere __________________ Apparently, Money and Computers *CAN* Buy Championships, LOL

03-25-2023, 05:55 PM	#45
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	eBay user jennpa_7399 is buying cards from his newer account mrpigamm-0 for cheap to boost mrpigamm-0 feedback score.

03-25-2023, 06:17 PM	#47
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 912	eBay user jennpa_7399 is also shill bidding on his 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany cards, which have previously been exposed as fake, on his newer account mrpigamm-0 https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/ViewBidder...p2471758.m4792