First Buzz: 2021-22 Topps UEFA Champions League soccer cards - Page 2

IndySportsCards · 11-01-2021, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ianh182

If only they could learn to cut the cards properly!!!

Or properly center the image, which is probably related to cutting them poorly. I quit buying Merlin due to the sheer number of rubbish, off center cards I was pulling.

netmasters · 11-01-2021, 08:33 PM

Better hope the checklist is nothing like the Kick UCL set that dropped today. It will be ROUGH.

badkarma318 · 11-01-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ianh182

If only they could learn to cut the cards properly!!!

There are at least 2 factors that contribute to the poor cutting/centering.

1. The human factor. When the uncut sheets are aligned and held in place just prior to being cut, a person is doing it, not a (far more) precise machine.

2. The cutting blade. As a brand new/freshly sharpened blade cuts through hundreds or even thousands of sheets, it obviously dulls over time and with each cut. The blades are a real PITA (and time-consuming) to change out, so one crew will many times just keep cutting with a blade that they know is dull, then leave it in the machine for the next crew to change out when their shift starts, so that they don't have to do it.

kingb22 · 11-02-2021, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Or properly center the image, which is probably related to cutting them poorly. I quit buying Merlin due to the sheer number of rubbish, off center cards I was pulling.

Totally agree.. and it seems like PSA has gotten more stringent with their standards. I worry that Merlin between centering and print lines will be like Megacracks on grading but at 5x the box price

glassofwater · 03-07-2022, 04:44 PM

Topps is going to have a rookie cup, im always been a fan of the rookie cup. this cup looks weird should just used the classic one from basball

The Accountant · 03-07-2022, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by glassofwater

Topps is going to have a rookie cup, im always been a fan of the rookie cup. this cup looks weird should just used the classic one from basball

I think it looks nice honestly. Glad they changed it up

Gin&Juice · 03-07-2022, 08:43 PM

Edouard Mendy is 29 years old and has been starting in a top tier league for 4 years. When do we stop trying to manufacture value with rookie designations? The rookie cup made sense 50+ years ago when Nolan Ryan had a single card. It is meaningless now, especially if Eric Garcia gets a cup.

YayNJ · 03-08-2022, 05:27 AM

^ worse, he's 30!!

Mitch · 03-08-2022, 05:36 AM

Rookie cup makes zero sense. It doesn't exist, and the fact Moukoko got in, shows it has zero credibility already. You can't just shoehorn *all* baseball card traditions into another sport and expect it to work.

YayNJ · 03-08-2022, 05:47 AM

It's sad that Topps is choosing to create soccer for baseball fans, and not soccer for soccer fans.

MarcieDee · 03-08-2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

It's sad that Topps is choosing to create soccer for baseball fans, and not soccer for soccer fans.

That is an interesting point. I am curious what they could have done differently to make it more soccer oriented and not old baseball. They do the 22 under 22 in the MLS product so I am curious if that is more applicable to soccer. Interested to hear your thoughts.

I am also curious if the product date has been pushed back. Blow Out is now showing March 30th as the release date in their presale page.

mikee1186 · 03-08-2022, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcieDee

That is an interesting point. I am curious what they could have done differently to make it more soccer oriented and not old baseball. They do the 22 under 22 in the MLS product so I am curious if that is more applicable to soccer. Interested to hear your thoughts.

I am also curious if the product date has been pushed back. Blow Out is now showing March 30th as the release date in their presale page.

Hope not. The other sites all still show March 16.

YayNJ · 03-11-2022, 10:40 AM

this has now been delisted from an online store that was showing it (blasters)

looks like it is delayed then?

mikee1186 · 03-11-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

this has now been delisted from an online store that was showing it (blasters)

looks like it is delayed then?

Yes cardboard connection removed the 3/16 launch date as well.

Wonder if they'll setup to do the 1st edition just before this.

DonrussDean · 03-16-2022, 06:43 AM

Grr this sucks.

The pushbacks and delays suck.

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mikee1186 · 03-16-2022, 07:49 AM

Now they've added a standalone rookie cup product apparently? Expecting a drop anytime. The baseball rookie cup product was pretty cool so I may be in for this one.

t6p · 03-16-2022, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mikee1186

Now they've added a standalone rookie cup product apparently? Expecting a drop anytime. The baseball rookie cup product was pretty cool so I may be in for this one.

Where did you see this? MC members had first dibs on the baseball one iirc, wonder if it will be the same for these.

mikee1186 · 03-16-2022, 08:44 AM

They posted on social media this morning.

mikee1186 · 03-16-2022, 08:46 AM

It's not clear but I interpret the announcement as a separate product.

mikee1186 · 03-16-2022, 11:22 AM

1st edition is live but I just don't think I want to do it for that price.

MTBRM · 03-16-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mikee1186

1st edition is live but I just don't think I want to do it for that price.

Stuck in the waiting room, what's the price?

snoozit · 03-16-2022, 11:24 AM

288GBP for me

jjo1776 · 03-16-2022, 11:25 AM

$366 on uk

mikee1186 · 03-16-2022, 11:25 AM

Limit 1, I grabbed 1.

Bob Ross · 03-16-2022, 11:26 AM

Yolo. Got 3

11-01-2021, 08:33 PM	#27
netmasters Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 678	Better hope the checklist is nothing like the Kick UCL set that dropped today. It will be ROUGH.

03-07-2022, 04:44 PM	#30
glassofwater Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 3,594	Topps is going to have a rookie cup, im always been a fan of the rookie cup. this cup looks weird should just used the classic one from basball

03-07-2022, 08:43 PM	#32
Gin&Juice Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,162 edelsteind	Edouard Mendy is 29 years old and has been starting in a top tier league for 4 years. When do we stop trying to manufacture value with rookie designations? The rookie cup made sense 50+ years ago when Nolan Ryan had a single card. It is meaningless now, especially if Eric Garcia gets a cup.

03-08-2022, 05:27 AM	#33
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,249 hanelcocards	^ worse, he's 30!!

03-08-2022, 05:36 AM	#34
Mitch Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 988	Rookie cup makes zero sense. It doesn't exist, and the fact Moukoko got in, shows it has zero credibility already. You can't just shoehorn all baseball card traditions into another sport and expect it to work.

03-08-2022, 05:47 AM	#35
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,249 hanelcocards	It's sad that Topps is choosing to create soccer for baseball fans, and not soccer for soccer fans.

03-11-2022, 10:40 AM	#38
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,249 hanelcocards	this has now been delisted from an online store that was showing it (blasters) looks like it is delayed then?

03-16-2022, 06:43 AM	#40
DonrussDean Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,433	Grr this sucks. The pushbacks and delays suck. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-16-2022, 07:49 AM	#41
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,118 mikee1186	Now they've added a standalone rookie cup product apparently? Expecting a drop anytime. The baseball rookie cup product was pretty cool so I may be in for this one.

03-16-2022, 08:44 AM	#43
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,118 mikee1186	They posted on social media this morning.

03-16-2022, 08:46 AM	#44
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,118 mikee1186	It's not clear but I interpret the announcement as a separate product.

03-16-2022, 11:22 AM	#45
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,118 mikee1186	1st edition is live but I just don't think I want to do it for that price.

03-16-2022, 11:24 AM	#47
snoozit Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 74	288GBP for me

03-16-2022, 11:25 AM	#48
jjo1776 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: TX Posts: 2,857	$366 on uk

03-16-2022, 11:26 AM	#50
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,011	Yolo. Got 3