Nominees Announced for HOF Class of 2022

[Grid]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Priest Holmes and Shaun Alexander both had the type of greatness that only the best of the best in the Hall of Fame had. Priest's career was cut short right at the peak of his career while Alexander also suffered from injuries but had a 5-year run where he averaged 1500 yards rushing and 18 rushing touchdowns. Both deserve more attention than they have received.

Both were awesome. But like you said, way too brief. Especially Holmes, where it was really just 3 great years and nothing else. But those 3 years were glorious.

Is that enough to warrant a gold jacket? I don't think so. I know people point to Sayers, and the fact he really only did it for 5 years. But 5 years is still more than 3. And the 5 years Sayers did it, was in an era where no body did things like him.

[foleylion08]

I love most of those running backs, with a soft spot for Alexander, but I don't think any of them get in on the modern ticket. According to the Pro Football Reference Hall of Fame monitor, Alexander and Barber are the only two who are in the range of a low-end HOF career. Alexander is the only one I'd put on the fringe because he was a scoring machine (one of only nine backs with 100+ TDs, only 16 players with more RRTD) Holmes' career was too much peak, not enough longevity. Barber was longevity without the peak. Taylor just didn't do enough, solid above average career. George probably needed another solid year or two. Jackson just didn't quite get there statistically (two double digit scoring seasons, one season rushing over 1,500). Lewis had the 2K season and a lot of average besides.

[SethMurphy]

I was making a joke about the receiver thing, because there really are just so many that do have deserving cases. I'm just curious why the people who have posted their trimmed down lists don't include Chad Johnson as even making the first cutdown.


766 receptions (37th all-time)
11,059 receiving yards (36th)
67 touchdowns (51st, this is a little low)
66.6 rec ypg (44th all time)

Maybe I see 11,000 yards for more than it should be, but top-40 all-time at those numbers seems pretty strong

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by packman80

Hester has no chance on 1st ballot Voters won't care about a special teams player. If Steve Tasker has not got in Hester has a very long wait to get in.

Originally Posted by packman80

Zero chance Tiki Barber and Jeff Saturday ever get into the HOF without buying a ticket to get in the building.

Originally Posted by packman80

Donald Driver will never sniff the HOF. Sterling Sharpe never got even close and he should be considered for the HOF and only way he gets in is thru the senior vote now as it's been 25+ years since he retired.

Can I get a link to your blog or YouTube channel?

[foleylion08]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

I was making a joke about the receiver thing, because there really are just so many that do have deserving cases. I'm just curious why the people who have posted their trimmed down lists don't include Chad Johnson as even making the first cutdown.


766 receptions (37th all-time)
11,059 receiving yards (36th)
67 touchdowns (51st, this is a little low)
66.6 rec ypg (44th all time)

Maybe I see 11,000 yards for more than it should be, but top-40 all-time at those numbers seems pretty strong

Is top 40 Hall of Fame worthy?

[discodanman45]

Fresno State has two players that deserve to be in this year IMO. Lorenzo Neal deserves to be in the HOF. Hard to define stats as a FB, but LT acknowledges he should be in. Logan Mankins was on the 2010's all decade team. He also supposedly played an entire year with a torn right ACL and had a pro bowl season.

[BamBam20]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Possibly... I think the glaring hole in both resumes - if we're talking T. Davis as the closest to them that HAS gotten in - is a SB win....

Holmes actually has a SB with the Ravens -- He was playing behind Jamal Lewis but still has one.

Terrell Davis also rushed for over 2000 which I don't think either one did -- and he was SB MVP which neither did. So I agree there are holes in the resumes I just think compared to Davis there is a much bigger gap than simply a SB. Davis basically did everything a RB could hope to do -- NFL MVP, 2000 yd season, SB MVP, 2x SBs, rushing yards leader, td leader and probably others im missing.

[Westwave]

Priest had 3 amazing HOF worth seasons that's it. No quality post season stats. TD had a little longer career and a HOF post season resume. It's not that hard to see the difference.

Alexander you can make a reasonable argument for his vote but I feel he doesn't deserve it either.

[foleylion08]

Originally Posted by BamBam20

Holmes actually has a SB with the Ravens -- He was playing behind Jamal Lewis but still has one.

Terrell Davis also rushed for over 2000 which I don't think either one did -- and he was SB MVP which neither did. So I agree there are holes in the resumes I just think compared to Davis there is a much bigger gap than simply a SB. Davis basically did everything a RB could hope to do -- NFL MVP, 2000 yd season, SB MVP, 2x SBs, rushing yards leader, td leader and probably others im missing.

So Derrick Henry needs a couple rings and be the MVP in one and he's in right?

[no10pin]

I would have loved to see Holmes get a couple more top years in, but unfortunately his peak was too short. He got hurt halfway through a 4th season that was on pace to be his best.

His numbers for 3.5 years are insane, there's just not enough to go along with it:

54 games - 7645 scrimmage yards, 76 TDs

[2010GBPackers]

Dang, OP. I see we created similar threads 2 minutes apart this morning. I'll leave my thoughts and my list here:

Without looking too deep into stats, I'll offer my enshrinees. While 2021 offered a few offensive HOF all-timers, this next year features a lot of defensive greats. I don't see any RB's getting in. Not because they're not worthy, but many of them are so close in career numbers and achievements. If one of them gets in, it should be Priest Holmes with his 3 All-Pros. It's the same with the WR group. Wayne, Smith, Johnson, and Holt all deserve to be in, but Johnson and Smith aren't going to jump the other two and get in on the first ballot, IMO.

Here's my list: Reggie Wayne, Tony Boselli, Richard Seymour, DeMarcus Ware, Zach Thomas, Patrick Willis, Leroy Butler, Devin Hester

[49ersSF]

Tiki Barber did have a peak. If it was not for some personal issues with Eli he would have a ring as well. His peak is epic and he retired rushing for nearly 1700 yards and 500 more receiving. Monster numbers

5 years 2002-06

Rushing Yards (7643) Yards per carry (4.8) Rushing TD's (40)

that alone is legendary. Then you add this in.

receptions (302) total receiving yards (2631) Yards from scrimmage (10,274)

Now let me put this into context. For a 5-year stretch, Tiki Barber averaged 2000+ yards from scrimmage. For the entire history of the NFL, there have only been 65 times in the modern era (since 1978) an NFL player achieved 2000+ years from scrimmage. Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders did it twice. Eric Dickerson and Walter Payton did it 4 times. Tike Barber averaged it for a 5-year stretch.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Here's my list: Reggie Wayne, Tony Boselli, Richard Seymour, DeMarcus Ware, Zach Thomas, Patrick Willis, Leroy Butler, Devin Hester

Solid list there! I've never been super high on Boselli due to how short his career was.... then again I was a proponent of Terrell Davis getting in, so what do I know.

[bamafan3559]

Originally Posted by jplarson

Solid list there! I've never been super high on Boselli due to how short his career was.... then again I was a proponent of Terrell Davis getting in, so what do I know.

Boselli may have had a short career, but he was dominant every year he played.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by jplarson

Solid list there! I've never been super high on Boselli due to how short his career was.... then again I was a proponent of Terrell Davis getting in, so what do I know.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

I was making a joke about the receiver thing, because there really are just so many that do have deserving cases. I'm just curious why the people who have posted their trimmed down lists don't include Chad Johnson as even making the first cutdown.


766 receptions (37th all-time)
11,059 receiving yards (36th)
67 touchdowns (51st, this is a little low)
66.6 rec ypg (44th all time)

Maybe I see 11,000 yards for more than it should be, but top-40 all-time at those numbers seems pretty strong

Hines Ward
1000 receptions
12083 yards
85 tds
63.5 ypg

I don’t see Hines getting in. Chad isn’t either.

[MrMasterpiece]

Any love for Aquan Boldin?

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by MrMasterpiece

Any love for Aquan Boldin?

I always liked Boldin and Andre Johnson, but there just seems to be a glut of WRs on the ballot with 13-14k yards, 900-1,000 catches and 70-80 TDs.

Boldin never lead the league in any counting stats, and never made first teamAll-Pro. Having the same stats as 5-6 other guys trying to get in isn't going to help.

[foleylion08]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Tiki Barber did have a peak.

5 years 2002-06

Rushing Yards (7643) Yards per carry (4.8) Rushing TD's (40)

that alone is legendary. Then you add this in.

receptions (302) total receiving yards (2631) Yards from scrimmage (10,274)

That's very impressive. He get's a 2,000-yard from scrimmage boost over Alexander in that same span, yet falls 44 touchdowns shy. Yards are cool, but they don't score points.

Both backs were All Pro once and three time Pro Bowlers in that stretch with Alexander getting the MVP nod. Plus Alexander has an 8 to 1 lead in post season touchdowns in 2 more games.

The 2005 each of these backs had was impressive. Sad neither got a ring.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I deserve this

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Gary Anderson should be a lock. 3rd all time in points scored. 80s and 90s all decade teams. Kickers need more love.

Only kick in his entire career that really mattered he missed.

[rj.cataldo]

Time to let Torry Holt in. One of the most underappreciated greats of his generation. Injuries cut a few years off his career, but he was one of the top 5 receivers of the 2000s.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by rj.cataldo

Time to let Torry Holt in. One of the most underappreciated greats of his generation. Injuries cut a few years off his career, but he was one of the top 5 receivers of the 2000s.

He should get in. Just might have to keep waiting, like Issac Bruce did. Holt was already a 2 time finalist.

Making the 2000 All Decade is a big boost. Right now, he is the only WR from that team not in the Hall. Harrison, Moss & Owens are all in.

[Grid]

As it stands right now, everyone eligible on the 1st team 2000 All Decade Team are in the Hall.

Only Lorenzo Neal & Richard Seymour are missing. Seymour is a 3 time finalist.

If you include special teams, 1st teamers are Josh Cribbs and Dante Hall. I wouldn't send either of them in. You have to be truly special to make the hall as a special teamer.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by Grid

As it stands right now, everyone eligible on the 1st team 2000 All Decade Team are in the Hall.

Only Lorenzo Neal & Richard Seymour are missing. Seymour is a 3 time finalist.

If you include special teams, 1st teamers are Josh Cribbs and Dante Hall. I wouldn't send either of them in. You have to be truly special to make the hall as a special teamer.

That is part of my reasoning behind L. Butler and Seymour getting in this year. Butler is the last remaining member of the 1990's All-Decade Team still waiting.