Kirill Kaprizov back to KHL?

[Hollywood42]

100% agreed with this, I've been amazed which how much progress he's made as a GM. He was dealt a pretty terrible situation tbh and almost every single move he's made has turned out to be a good one so far. He's not afraid to make controversial decisions and he's certainly not going to let an agent wrestle him into a deal he doesn't want to make

Originally Posted by mrb842

Guerin is one of the rising stars in the NHL, no way this guy gets away.

But I also agree with this. How can you possibly give him that much after 55 games? Don't forget the Wild also have super tight cap space for the next several years so it's not as easy as saying "you can't let him walk, just give him the extra few million he wants". But at the same time... you can't lose out on him, even while still holding exclusive rights for the next few years

It sounds like the conflict isn't as much about the money, but rather the years. Kap wants a short bridge deal (still being handsomely paid, of course) so he can hit free agency ASAP and cash in on another big payday. The Wild want him locked up as long as possible to avoid having to compete with other teams' offers down the road. And they've been willing to pay handsomely for that, already having made multiple offers in the 7-8 year, $9 million range

Logic would say the two sides eventually end up meeting in the middle at maybe 5 years, but so far Kap/agent haven't budged an inch. But Guerin isn't going to blink either, and it sounds like Kap/agent are still sticking at a massive payday. So who knows where we end up

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Where do you draw the line on salary? Sure he's a young star but does he really deserve more than $9M per after a single season? The rumour is 8 figures in the K so $10M or more.
Guerin will be handcuffed on this one I think.

[valleynuckfan]

8 year contract gets him to 32 y.o.
I doubt that anyone is bucking up really big at that point so any long term deal will probably cost Guerin at least $9.5M AAV.
But a 5 year bridge with a backloaded contract paying out in years 3, 4 and 5 might do the trick.
This link is interesting.
https://zonecoverage.com/2021/wild/a...-and-the-wild/
Now if Kirill doesn't want to stay in Minny then it doesn't really matter.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

8 year contract gets him to 32 y.o.
I doubt that anyone is bucking up really big at that point so any long term deal will probably cost Guerin at least $9.5M AAV.
But a 5 year bridge with a backloaded contract paying out in years 3, 4 and 5 might do the trick.
This link is interesting.
https://zonecoverage.com/2021/wild/a...-and-the-wild/
Now if Kirill doesn't want to stay in Minny then it doesn't really matter.

I like the logic of that article, but the crux of this is your closing sentence.

Kaprizov has also been clear that he wants to and expects to compete for Russia in the 2022 Olympics. While there seems to be a "soft" agreement in place between the NHL, NHLPA and IOC, there are nagging issues that linger.

Kaprizov waited years before entering the NHL. Finally came and delivered. He has little risk here leaving and coming back as an UFA in a (expected) bigger cap era.

[TrafficEngineer]

There are only eight days left for him to sign a contract. Will Upper Deck Series 2 be available for less than $100 if he signs the contract in Russia?

[k13]

Originally Posted by TrafficEngineer

There are only eight days left for him to sign a contract. Will Upper Deck Series 2 be available for less than $100 if he signs the contract in Russia?

There's better players than him in there long term.

[Phils747]

According to Michael Russo from The Athletic, CSKA Moscow has stated that Kaprizov won't be playing there this season so that hopefully clears the path somewhat to eventually get him back to Minnesota.

https://www.hockeywilderness.com/202...y-trade-rumors

[kellmuff]

lol glad Minnesota calls his bluff

[daverat]

Originally Posted by TrafficEngineer

There are only eight days left for him to sign a contract. Will Upper Deck Series 2 be available for less than $100 if he signs the contract in Russia?

I wish, load me up on Stutzle, Cozens, Yegor, Sorokin,++......

[BaseballKing]

Originally Posted by k13

There's better players than him in there long term.

Stutzle is the only one imo.

[Hollywood42]

How's that September 1st deadline before during to CSKA looking?

[DynastyCentral]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

How's that September 1st deadline before during to CSKA looking?

CSKA/KHL already announced they never offered him and he wasn't signing there. The only deadline that matters is if he gets signed before the season training camp begins.

[Hollywood42]

I know. The entire thing is silly

Originally Posted by DynastyCentral

CSKA/KHL already announced they never offered him and he wasn't signing there. The only deadline that matters is if he gets signed before the season training camp begins.

[Hollywood42]

And he's officially back with the Wild for 5 years, $45 million

[NHRonin]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

And he's officially back with the Wild for 5 years, $45 million

And now watch his cards start to go back up.

[discostu]

Insane contract. Wow.

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

And he's officially back with the Wild for 5 years, $45 million

[Giroux]

Good player. Good deal.

[valleynuckfan]

Played one Covid-shortened season and got paid $9 schmill per for 5. Not sure Billy had a lot of choice here though. KK gets paid.
Unfortunately the Wild have 7 UFAs and 3 RFAs next year and $12M- $14M + in dead cap with the buyouts of Suter and Parise over the next 3 years.
Goligoski and his $5M will be gone next year, but this group will need a top goalie. Paying Cam Talbot almost $4M for 2 more years hurts big time.
The Thrill will be fun to watch, but what will the rest of the team look like around him?

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Played one Covid-shortened season and got paid $9 schmill per for 5. Not sure Billy had a lot of choice here though. KK gets paid.

Unfortunately the Wild have 7 UFAs and 3 RFAs next year and $12M- $14M + in dead cap with the buyouts of Suter and Parise over the next 3 years.

Goligoski and his $5M will be gone next year, but this group will need a top goalie. Paying Cam Talbot almost $4M for 2 more years hurts big time.

The Thrill will be fun to watch, but what will the rest of the team look like around him?

Proven pro in Russia, dominated last year. I don't think it's really much of a gamble. He'll be good.

Team cap is definitely screwed but they had to get Kirill locked up.

[Hollywood42]

https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/stat...42183791828992

Kaprizov on whether he ever planned to play in the KHL: “no chance.”

Guerin joked, “you shouldn’t answer that. You’re going to blow it for the next contract negotiation.”

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/stat...42183791828992

Kaprizov on whether he ever planned to play in the KHL: “no chance.”

Guerin joked, “you shouldn’t answer that. You’re going to blow it for the next contract negotiation.”

Unless Guerin becomes the GM in NYC I don't think he's having another contract negotiation with KK.
5 years and The Thrill is outta Minny in a hurry as a UFA.
Sad, but likely just the way she goes.

[ZappBrannigan]

Too bad he didn’t go back to Siberia. Beers will be $22 to keep his pool boy employed.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Too bad he didn’t go back to Siberia. Beers will be $22 to keep his pool boy employed.

Huh??

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by Giroux

Huh??

Gotta raise their already highest in the league gouging beer prices to pay for this bum. I doubt they will be bottle collecting for his salary. Plus Putin needs new a new suit.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Gotta raise their already highest in the league gouging beer prices to pay for this bum. I doubt they will be bottle collecting for his salary. Plus Putin needs new a new suit.

Good post