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Old 03-04-2021, 08:47 AM   #26
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Yes the text/post were probably a promo, but I don't think that is very relevant. Just bc Ray didn't personally sit at his PC bidding doesn't really matter. If it is a promo then it means he accepted cardboard as payment for WORK, even if it was easy influencer-work. What's important is he is clearly very happy to have the card!

And players collecting isn't all that far fetched. I'm sure you all know its been pretty common in the MLB for a while, no reason to believe it can't catch on in the NBA.
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:59 AM   #27
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As a Michael Redd collector I'm triggered here. How dare he...
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:24 AM   #28
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It would have been awesome if it was a Jesus Shuttlesworth Logoman
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:48 AM   #29
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Just have fun with it, wouldn't sweat the details. At worst it's a paid ad gig, but so what, it's still cool Allen ends up with this card imo. Fun promo for the hobby. Would love to learn about the players who do actually collect cards though, that would be fun. I've heard Durant collects?
Josh Donaldson, 3x baseball all-star and former league MVP, is a pretty serious collector... check out his insta some time!
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:52 AM   #30
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Josh Donaldson, 3x baseball all-star and former league MVP, is a pretty serious collector... check out his insta some time!
Wow! You weren't kidding, guy is stacking some serious stuff, that's awesome!!!
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:53 AM   #31
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I am still not sure why people were thinking he was gifted the card?

There is only one of these. Finding the owner and convincing the owner to part with it is a big deal.

All of us collectors do the exact same thing when we land a long time ISO, why can't Ray do it?
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:06 AM   #32
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I am still not sure why people were thinking he was gifted the card?

There is only one of these. Finding the owner and convincing the owner to part with it is a big deal.

All of us collectors do the exact same thing when we land a long time ISO, why can't Ray do it?
Because some people can't take joy out of anything in life.
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:13 AM   #33
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I am still not sure why people were thinking he was gifted the card?

There is only one of these. Finding the owner and convincing the owner to part with it is a big deal.

All of us collectors do the exact same thing when we land a long time ISO, why can't Ray do it?
Because influencer marketing exists, this HAS to be the case here. There is NO WAY, Ray Allen, a man with most likely a fairly decent bank account could have simply wanted to spend some money on one of his own. It was 100% a paid promotion. End of story. I can imagine his bank statement - nothing on there that says Goldin Auctions, guys. Sorry to dissapoint.

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Old 03-04-2021, 01:28 PM   #34
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I can imagine his bank statement - nothing on there that says Goldin Auctions, guys. Sorry to dissapoint.
Goldin himself said in reply to a comment on his tweet that the card wasn't a Goldin Auction, so there's that. No need to be all up in that sheister's jock, already plenty of others there.
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Old 03-04-2021, 02:45 PM   #35
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Goldin himself said in reply to a comment on his tweet that the card wasn't a Goldin Auction, so there's that. No need to be all up in that sheister's jock, already plenty of others there.
Makes the post pretty disingenuous, but whatevs - gotta get that press.
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:03 PM   #36
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Josh Donaldson, 3x baseball all-star and former league MVP, is a pretty serious collector... check out his insta some time!
I've sold stuff to him a couple times, definitely throws money out there when he knows what he wants

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Because influencer marketing exists, this HAS to be the case here. There is NO WAY, Ray Allen, a man with most likely a fairly decent bank account could have simply wanted to spend some money on one of his own. It was 100% a paid promotion. End of story. I can imagine his bank statement - nothing on there that says Goldin Auctions, guys. Sorry to dissapoint.



Seriously
I mentioned earlier that the idea of players buying cards of themselves (1/1s or other super rare stuff) is completely reasonable and cool to see, but the corny picture / caption, combined with the language used... claiming that he's "investing" are the phony/disingenuous parts. It can be both things.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:25 PM   #37
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I can believe that with the recent media attention, players will start collecting/buying their own cards, because it's fun and they can afford to pay whatever price. to word it as investing is 100% aimed at the social media audience to try to stir up sales.
Yeah man, Ray Allen isn't "investing" in cards, lol. He either bought the card because he wanted it or someone gave it to him for marketing/social media campaign purposes. I kind of think he just wanted it. Good for him.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:34 PM   #38
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This is the future of super high end. Althletes and celebrities can easily acquire major pop culture cards to show off on IG (Timbaland Deshaun Watson). They’re all looking for attention. Great for those holding.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:56 PM   #39
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Personally, I could care less if it’s a marketing ploy or not. More exposure puts more money into all of our pockets.
This is kinda wrong.

Might put more money in your pockets if you're already holding stuff, but for those who have never bought to invest, it just makes things harder/more expensive to buy.

Nobody's going to be paying thousands for my set of mid-90s inserts, so it's not like they're worth much to anyone and I couldn't (even if I wanted to) sell to even try to buy a box or something nowadays, or any nice singles, as things are getting ridiculous.

It's truly no longer a hobby at all. It's too expensive to be. And few people are genuinely buying just to have and not care about the future value.
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