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Old 02-21-2021, 02:04 AM   #26
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And it’s an error card!

He was so unheard of...they spelled his name wrong.

https://www.topps.com/wonderkid-hits...ps-now-11.html
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:05 AM   #27
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Hrm? Raj3sh said it was a 2021 card. I said the PSA label says it's a 2019 card(even though it came out at the end of 2020...). Was just letting him know that the red & white says 2019, that's what the masses will follow.
What “red & white”?
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:07 AM   #28
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What “red & white”?
I think he means PSA color
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:09 AM   #29
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Also if lebron played for another NBA team prior to cavs, do the masses still take the second teams card?
Probably not. But if Lebron played for another team in a different, lesser league, the masses very well could take the second team's card
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:10 AM   #30
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I think he means PSA color
I thought so too, but I don’t see a Sapphire card with a PSA label that says 2019 on it.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:14 AM   #31
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I thought so too, but I don’t see a Sapphire card with a PSA label that says 2019 on it.
Haha. Drinking?

I was being cryptic for no real reason. Yes, red & white label was referring to PSA label.

If you look on the front page of this thread, you'll see a 2019 Sapphire Haaland card graded by PSA. He'd stated it was a 2021 card. My reply was once PSA labeled it a 2019 card(Topps does too by the way), that it is a 2019 card. Really feel like I'm over explaining or you guys are messing with me.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:18 AM   #32
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Haha. Drinking?

I was being cryptic for no real reason. Yes, red & white label was referring to PSA label.

If you look on the front page of this thread, you'll see a 2019 Sapphire Haaland card graded by PSA. He'd stated it was a 2021 card. My reply was once PSA labeled it a 2019 card(Topps does too by the way), that it is a 2019 card. Really feel like I'm over explaining or you guys are messing with me.
Not drinking, but I must be drunk since I can’t see any Sapphire card on the first page of this thread, or anywhere else in this thread.

Can you give me a post # please?
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:18 AM   #33
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Probably not. But if Lebron played for another team in a different, lesser league, the masses very well could take the second team's card
Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:23 AM   #34
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Not drinking, but I must be drunk since I can’t see any Sapphire card on the first page of this thread, or anywhere else in this thread.

Can you give me a post # please?
#13

Edit. Perhaps I'M THE ONE who's drinking. That's his Bund. Hahahaha

Here nor there that I can't see(I'm old), his Sapphire is labeled as 2019 by PSA as well.
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Those aren’t Sapphire.
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Those aren’t Sapphire.
I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:28 AM   #37
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I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.
No worries.

I see the Sapphire labels also say 2019, even though they were released in late 2020...OVER a year after his true rookie card in September of 2019.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:29 AM   #38
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I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.
Nopes you are correct, i can see many saphire cards in ebay with 2019 labelling, PSA at its worst
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Topps Now 2019 is his first card, limited to 178. extremely hard to find now.

Then the sticker ( first version)

Saphire is a second/third year card (2021) .
Look these guys got it before Topps released it!



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If the label says 2019, then thats stupid of PSA, the card is released in 2021.

Cant believe this stupidity.
Me either!
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:31 AM   #40
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Nopes you are correct, i can see many saphire cards in ebay with 2019 labelling, PSA at its worst
It won’t matter “much”.

The true collectors with the deepest pockets will want the one that came first and over a year earlier.

Plus, the scene is far superior.
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It won’t matter “much”.

The true collectors with the deepest pockets will want the one that came first and over a year earlier.

Plus, the scene is far superior.
Bets on it not mattering much?

Same Photo. RC logo. Shiny. It'll matter. Haha.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:39 AM   #42
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Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players
I remember the same happening for ronaldo, but it was short lived, in the end the sporting card took over.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:42 AM   #43
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Bets on it not mattering much?

Same Photo. RC logo. Shiny. It'll matter. Haha.
Okay...stop drinking. LOL

It’s not the same photo. Not even close.

When you’re sober, we can discuss bets.
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Okay...stop drinking. LOL

It’s not the same photo. Not even close.

When you’re sober, we can discuss bets.
Haha. As the Chrome. Not Bund.

My point can be made using basketball. Flawless came out in Dec(2020). Eminence in Jan(2021). All PSA labels will say 2019 Flawless, 2019 Eminence.

So my larger point is, the Sapphire, Bund, Finest and Now...will all be labeled as 2019. I think that'll make a lot of difference going foward.

PS. I need to sleep. I'm starting to confuse myself.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:52 AM   #45
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Haha. As the Chrome. Not Bund.

My point can be made using basketball. Flawless came out in Dec(2020). Eminence in Jan(2021). All PSA labels will say 2019 Flawless, 2019 Eminence.

So my larger point is, the Sapphire, Bund, Finest and Now...will all be labeled as 2019. I think that'll make a lot of difference going foward.

PS. I need to sleep. I'm starting to confuse myself.
It’s all good.

Sleep well.
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Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players
Yeah, I was mostly alluding to how the Lebron metaphor kind of breaks down because there's only one premier basketball league. A better illustration of that is Luka, who played professionally before the NBA and has cards from those teams but his most valuable rookie cards are obviously with the Mavs.

But yeah, I agree that like CR7 people usually look to the first team, even if it's relatively unknown. The market is a bit different now - with all these product lines fighting tooth and nail for the RC label - so it'll be interesting to see what the hobby rallies around.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:56 AM   #47
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You've got it backwards. The darker background were the 1st prints found in packs, the lighter background are the 2nd prints.
Nah, man take a look at that. That Haaland is the lighter print. The darker print is black. That sticker in the video is grey. The second print came out a lot darker than that. I opened a few of the first boxes and took out 3 Haaland. I then ordered directly from Panini later on and got the darker print.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:58 AM   #48
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So if I have 20 of them, am I finally a millionaire?
No, you make terrible investments.
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-how can be topps now CL (wonder kid) /178 considered as 'lesser league', when it is 'Champions league set'. (stop being retarded)
-some people act like (first pack pulled cards are the ones..). I don't see this logic in any of Pele's, Cruyff's, Figo, Beckham's,... true rookies.
-Sapphire is not a rookie. Understandable, that Topps wnat it to be rookie season card, and also PSA wants that, so people would send it to them and they can earn money. Many cards are mislabeled, and even there was some critical mass at the begining, those cards are now not being so popular, as more and more people learns the truth. (Messi Traditions, Beckham Raven,...

Not many knows, that Champions league will change its format in 2023.
THere will be 8 teams groups it will mean not 6 games in group stage, but 14. (CL games also on weekends). Playoff will be the same as now. This simply gives Haland another 8 CL matches each year to improve his scoring record. At least 4 of those added 8 games will be against weaker teams.
At the end of his career he will surpass Messi and Ronaldo in CL goals scored.
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I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.
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