2009 UFC Autos Skyrocketing in Price

[twoten01]

Originally Posted by slnky27

There is a PSA graded 10 jones auto that claims to be "on card in black ink"??? Is that the 1/1??? LOL. my guess... fake, somebody damaged the auto on the sticker, peeled sticker and forged jones' auto in black ink on card and PSA graded it a 10??? WTF? Does anybody know anything bout this? ive not yet seen ANY on card autos from round 2 except TUF cards.

Is it signed on card? If so it's not a topps released auto. But if it is, all it is, is just a blue ink auto someone left out in the sun. Well happen even in a psa case. That's why autos shouldn't ever be on display

[twoten01]

Ok just saw the card on ebay. Very obvious it's just a faded blue auto

[slnky27]

I messaged seller and they said it was ON CARD .....NO sticker.... and PSA graded it 10??? seller seems legit.

[slnky27]

maybe we not looking at same card seller is weranoutofideas.....not so obviously faded blue ink (its black ink).... psa didnt even pick it up?? and they the PROS.

[itsbaytime]

Hey guys, this is my card. I was mistaken when I answered the question. I just looked at the scan and couldn't see the sticker. I checked it out again after seeing this thread. It is a sticker auto and I do not believe it was faded. I have had this card for 6-7 years and it has been black since I had it and I can assure you it wasn't in the sun or anywhere else but a box. I also have a Gracie 8 up and it is also black and a sticker. I have both a 9 of Jones and Gracie that I are in my PC and they are both blue. I hope this helps clear any confusion.

[slnky27]

yes it did thx. I was just concerned about you saying to me there was no sticker and it was a ON CARD auto...black ink just a different color pen to me, (same w/ RED ink to me) to quote a song "It Don't Impress Me Much". ON CARD was a RED FLAG.

[twoten01]

Originally Posted by slnky27

maybe we not looking at same card seller is weranoutofideas.....not so obviously faded blue ink (its black ink).... psa didnt even pick it up?? and they the PROS.

It wasnt faded (most likely) when it was graded and even if it was a gem mint 10 is just the card grade. The auto was never even looked at by psa.

I'd bet any amount of money this card is faded. I've owned 5 of the 25 red ink autos and at least 60 of the blue inks over the years. There are no black ink autos. I've opened 33 cases of this product since 2009

[twoten01]

Originally Posted by itsbaytime

Hey guys, this is my card. I was mistaken when I answered the question. I just looked at the scan and couldn't see the sticker. I checked it out again after seeing this thread. It is a sticker auto and I do not believe it was faded. I have had this card for 6-7 years and it has been black since I had it and I can assure you it wasn't in the sun or anywhere else but a box. I also have a Gracie 8 up and it is also black and a sticker. I have both a 9 of Jones and Gracie that I are in my PC and they are both blue. I hope this helps clear any confusion.

Both of your cards have faded autos. Guaranteed! Look at the Royce it's even more noticable they are both faded. And it doesnt take a long time to fade, could've faded in 2009 if the original owner had them on display or was a dealer and had them always under lights


And you have your Joseph benavidez autos from 2017as his rookie. His rookies from 2011

[slnky27]

so if autos are not looked at and the card still grades a perfect 10 from PSA does that mean I can erase a auto and it would still grade a perfect 10 card?? I don't grade cards....main reason is I'm working poor no $$$$$ to do it. What is reasoning behind the grading a NOT PERFECT card PERFECT?? I do not understand the grading process of cards at all.

[twoten01]

Originally Posted by slnky27

so if autos are not looked at and the card still grades a perfect 10 from PSA does that mean I can erase a auto and it would still grade a perfect 10 card?? I don't grade cards....main reason is I'm working poor no $$$$$ to do it. What is reasoning behind the grading a NOT PERFECT card PERFECT?? I do not understand the grading process of cards at all.

No they most likely wouldnt grade it. But they have graded cards that were pack pulled autos that someone erased the auto and resigned it before. You can pay extra to have them grade the auto too. You can look on ebay they will have 2 grades on the label, but doesnt seem super popular yet. And a gem mint 10 doesnt mean a perfect card. It can still be off centered on the back by 80/20 maybe even 70/30 and still grade a 10. And if you arent aware PSA and BGS have graded 10s of 1000s of fake or trimmed cards. Their opinions are #@#@#@#@ but the market still pays up for graded cards.

If you are just looking to collect you are much better off saving your money and buy ungraded, you will have a lot more cards for the same price. If you need help determining if a card is legit post it here, me or someone else will help out

[Trailers]

What kinds a value should I put on a Paul Kelly Red ink auto from topps round 1

[Crashingwaves]

Originally Posted by Trailers

What kinds a value should I put on a Paul Kelly Red ink auto from topps round 1

15-30.... not a popular fighter. believe he is in jail for heroin dealing too

[Trailers]

Originally Posted by Crashingwaves

15-30.... not a popular fighter. believe he is in jail for heroin dealing too

Really? I would think it’s worth more than that. There are 25 of them. Any red ink holds value just for their rarity

[Crashingwaves]

Originally Posted by Trailers

Really? I would think it’s worth more than that. There are 25 of them. Any red ink holds value just for their rarity

Sorry... just realized it was a red auto.... I just bought one for 75.