Shohei Ohtani Potential Market

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Neal

Not made of glass at all …. I like his upside based on his fan base alone.

I can see Ohtani consistently hitting 25+ and winning 10+ every year ….

2 seasons with 3 different major injuries...
2 season ending surgeries....

[ucLAkers]

Terrible outing....

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Terrible outing....

Doesn't even begin to describe it. Embarrassing to himself, his team, hell, even to the A's.
It's Ohver, tani.

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Terrible outing....

You ain't lying! He even had an extra months (April, May, June, almost all July) because of COVID-19 to get ready

[HarryLime]

Holy hell. It's one game, people. Control is the last thing to return following TJ surgery. Most pitchers don't return to previous levels until their second year back pitching.

He's proven that he can be very good to great at both pitching and hitting so I think he's a fascinating case to watch. He could end up being a SABRmetric dream -- neither side stats placing him in the elite but combining the two put him at the top of WAR.

I don't have much into him. In fact, I just have a TC gold refractor I pulled from a pack and a lot of base rookies from packs. But I'm rooting for him because I think it would be exciting for baseball.

Arthur

[SkipAway]

A's lineup is elite. He hadn't started a game in a year and half. Zero spring training.

Meh. Baseball is hard. He clearly has a live arm, a repeatable delivery, and more upside than most young starting pitchers.

That said, I really wish they'd find him a position in the field and have him learn it exclusively. His bat, wheels, and arm need to be in the lineup everyday.

Angels don't have that luxury now, though, as their starting pitching is slim at best.

[HalfNipponese]

I really hope he does well this season. I'm a big fan of the idea of dominate 2 way players.

When I lived in Japan in the 80's and 90's, it was amazing to see how high school pitchers were so over worked. In high school my American team played an average Japanese team. The first pitcher we faced smoked us and pitched a complete game shutout. The second game of the double header we lit up the next pitcher and the first guy was brought in. Again, he smoked us for the next 5 innings. Twelve innings in one day would have made my arm fall off. I barely got through the 7 innings I put in.

[splitrockgamer]

It was pretty tough to watch. However I do feel like he does have a good demeanor about him and he will get back into some sessions and work on his control. It is ok to be a bit worried, but I bet he figures it out and is a strong 2 way talent. it might not be this season yet, but in time.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani is already a legend in Japan from his high school tournament days and NPB time. Also, Asian people in all markets tend to like him. How many 6'4 Asian dudes do you know that can throw 100 and hit 500ft bombs? I love Ichiro, but Ohtani is the true physical pinnacle of an eastern athlete.

He doesn't need to compete with Trout.

Holy piss!!


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[sportscards03]

He really should've just pitched simulated games during this season and rehabilitated his arm while playing offense only this year or at least half of the year.

[bad0165]

https://www.athleticsnation.com/2020...ngels-velocity

The above link is an analysis of his 1 inning he pitched against the A's. Its ONLY one game, but given the lower velocity, lack of control, and not a single swinging strike, I say he is on the down side, even if his prices don't reflect it immediately.

[DrewTheMan]

SELL SELL SELL!!

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Nah that thread doesn't deliver.

This is the way

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1198498

I hate that I created that thread but I still haven’t gotten rich off of any Ohtani cards although I did sell his black chrome heritage for 275 dollars.

[discodanman45]

This two way player experiment needs to be over. Let him pitch or let him be a DH the rest of the year. After this year give him a position or make him a pitcher.

[TimBuckTwo]

Dead arm = Dead market.

Nuff said.

[anusinha]

Is market is quickly becoming the dumpster behind the 7-11

[Vdm2018]

done for the day. 0-4 batting with 3 strikeouts.

[razorsharp]

He's honestly probably one of the worst investments in the hobby that you can make right now.

The hype is gone and he's not that young anymore. Add in the fact that on the field he looks terrible (yes I know it's early).

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Is market is quickly becoming the dumpster behind the 7-11

That’s where we all meet up with Mrs. Boo

[SaveMeTheGum]

2018 was the peak time for Ohtani cards.

[lseecon]

Shohei it aint so, but this ship has sailed.
Another Japanese hyped up player that may find success in MLB but wont be a superstar.....

Trade your Shoheis for HOFer Ichiro

[JPWisco]

Originally Posted by Vdm2018

done for the day. 0-4 batting with 3 strikeouts.

He is clearly in a bad place mentally. After the start yesterday there is no way he isn't still reeling from that. Ohtani clearly has all the talent in the world, the mental game can't be underestimated.

[SkipAway]

Dang, y'all are really trying to scare these people into selling this guy. I guess I get it, though.

Only slugging .530 through his first 222 games, which is a red flag, 70 grade power which is a turnoff, runs like a deer so he'll likely get hurt, and that outing yesterday is really all we need to see from him as far as his pitching prospects go.

Y'all some savages.

[Chicharito]

It's ohver, tani.

[jasonm2121]

Cannot think of a worse long term investment, considering what he was priced at when he came into the league. Should not bother pitching.