So ACUNA is the closest to TROUT potential. Who is the next ACUNA?

[TheWrightStuff]

There is no next Acuna yet. IT took 7-8 years for the next Trout to show up, I expect it to take around that long or longer for the next Acuna. He is a generational talent.

[brios8]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Acuna is definitely not the closest to Trout. Trout is a universe ahead of Acuna. It's a crime to compare the two as hitters...

Acuna's OPS first two seasons, with his home field being a hitter's park:
2018: .918(14th in MLB)
2019: .882(46th in MLB)

Trout's OPS first two seasons, with his home field being a pitcher's park:
2012: .963(6th in MLB)
2013: .989(3rd in MLB)

It's as much of a crime to compare them all around as well:
In his first two seasons Acuna had 9.3 WAR in 1202 ABs and Trout had 20.3 WAR in 1345

Maybe you didnt understand that its “closest” not “close”

No other player since Trout has been getting huge increases in prices plus still lots of potential like Acuna.. hence its easier to find another hobby loved player compared to Acuna than to Trout

[brios8]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

There is no next Acuna yet. IT took 7-8 years for the next Trout to show up, I expect it to take around that long or longer for the next Acuna. He is a generational talent.

Nothing is written. What if Acuna had been born 5 years earlier, he wouldnt have been as good because Trout had just shown up?

And like Acuna is no Trout
Maybe one of these is no Acuna, but one will be the closest

Wander Franco could be, but is very expensive.. so maybe Marco Luciano could be the next Wander Franco (price wise) and then Acuna

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by brios8

Maybe you didnt understand that its “closest” not “close”

Acuna's chance of becoming as good as Trout is near zero. Any of the 4 or 5 tool guys from the minors, Tatis, and maybe Soto have a better chance. Every additional month played in the majors and not playing anywhere close to the MVP pace Trout did early in his career is going cut down the odds significantly of becoming the next Trout.

Acuna is likely to be better than most of the those guys still in the minors BUT that does not mean he is more likely to be Trout.

Think of it as a bell curve where Trout is on the end of it. Acuna's career trajectory is way more likely to be 2/3 of the way there than someone like Wander, but Wander is way more likely than Acuna to be on the end of it next to Trout because Acuna already has a mountain of MLB experience that tells he's not anywhere close to Trout. Wander with no MLB sample size keeps the extreme outlier career trajectories more open as a result

[Chrisyork33]

Whoever Gary V tells me

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Chrisyork33

Whoever Gary V tells me

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[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Acuna's chance of becoming as good as Trout is near zero. Any of the 4 or 5 tool guys from the minors, Tatis, and maybe Soto have a better chance. Every additional month played in the majors and not playing anywhere close to the MVP pace Trout did early in his career is going cut down the odds significantly of becoming the next Trout.

Acuna is likely to be better than most of the those guys still in the minors BUT that does not mean he is more likely to be Trout.

Think of it as a bell curve where Trout is on the end of it. Acuna's career trajectory is way more likely to be 2/3 of the way there than someone like Wander, but Wander is way more likely than Acuna to be on the end of it next to Trout because Acuna already has a mountain of MLB experience that tells he's not anywhere close to Trout. Wander with no MLB sample size keeps the extreme outlier career trajectories more open as a result

Early indications are Acuna and Soto are not going to hit over .300 in their career and there absolutely no way Tatis can keep a sub .300 BA with his current strike out rate.

If a +.300 is still looked at as the BA hitting gold standard, it might be a while before the power + BA tools are obtained throughout a career.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

Early indications are Acuna and Soto are not going to hit over .300 in their career

Acuna got worse as a hitter last year. Soto stayed about the same but Soto has the elite plate discipline that gives him a higher ceiling to improve towards.

and there absolutely no way Tatis can keep a sub .300 BA with his current strike out rate.

Under 400 ABs. Plenty of room for the possibility of him to make the leap. Soto and Acuna are sitting on 3-4x the number of MLB ABs.

If a +.300 is still looked at as the BA hitting gold standard, it might be a while before the power + BA tools are obtained throughout a career.

BA isn't even the wood standard and it's nearly irrelevant next to OPS, wOBA, or wRC+

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by BBases31

BA isn't even the wood standard and it's nearly irrelevant next to OPS, wOBA, or wRC+

How many people actually use wOBA or wRC+??? 1%...5%

BA will always be the gold standard and relevent for the majority of baseball fans.

[MotorboatJones]

How does Wander Franco not even make the list ?

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

How does Wander Franco not even make the list ?

Did you read the post?

[brios8]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

How does Wander Franco not even make the list ?

already very expensive.. talent wise and for what he has achieved so far he would be the closest, but is already very expensive..

while as some of these other players are still much cheaper than Franco/Acuna...

* Adells chrome auto is quite SP so looks "expensive" but will be considered cheap if he gets it done.
* Kristian Robinson chrome autos doesn't have any color autos (only base) and even it being SP is cheaper than a couple of these players

[Sportnut08]

Haven’t we already found the next Ronald Acuna?




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[marlinsmaniac20]

In no order, Dylan Carlson, Jared Kelenic, Jo Adell, Jazz Chisholm are really the only players who fit the criteria and have sold 60+ tools in the needed areas.

[brios8]

only a few votes in so far, but JO ADELL is quite in the lead...

for those that voted Adell , any thoughts as to why him?

[Rage]

Jo Adell because I have more of his cards ;p

But seriously this dude has all the tools, the potential, the right age, and the right team! Playing alongside Trout, Rendon, Pujols, and Ohtani can't hurt your development.

[brios8]

Originally Posted by Rage

Jo Adell because I have more of his cards ;p

But seriously this dude has all the tools, the potential, the right age, and the right team! Playing alongside Trout, Rendon, Pujols, and Ohtani can't hurt your development.

makes sense...

Julio Rodriguez now catching up

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

How many people actually use wOBA or wRC+??? 1%...5%



BA will always be the gold standard and relevent for the majority of baseball fans.

So why aren’t Tim Anderson cards on fire? He was the AL batting champ. BA is irrelevant to MVP voters and that’s how you’re going to keep score if a player stacks up against Trout

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by BBases31

So why aren’t Tim Anderson cards on fire? He was the AL batting champ. BA is irrelevant to MVP voters and that’s how you’re going to keep score if a player stacks up against Trout

Blahahahaah. Do you ever think before posting???

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

Blahahahaah. Do you ever think before posting???

Only about how much Tim Anderson cards have taken off as a result of that sweet batting title people can't stop talking about

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Only about how much Tim Anderson cards have taken off as a result of that sweet batting title people can't stop talking about

The good ole BBases asinine rabbit hole

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

The good ole BBases asinine rabbit hole

Rabbit hole of....... the guy who was #1 in the "gold standard"

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

If a +.300 is still looked at as the BA hitting gold standard

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

BA will always be the gold standard

[majestik101]

My top 3 to watch out for

Luis Franco
Kevin Dominguez
Jasson Maitan

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Rabbit hole of....... the guy who was #1 in the "gold standard"

Trolls going to troll.

Please use all those fancy analytics to formulate a cohort argument on how Tim Anderson is going to become the next Mike Trout. That's where the content behind the BA gold standard was brought up. You won't. You will keep posturing as usual.

[BeastMode27]

I think his point is batting average doesn’t mean anything unless you are hyped up by the people. The real gold standard.