Topps Star Wars Living Set

[ToppsNowFan]

Sonny was right...

[svacardsllc]

Everyone is buying them to resell them anymore really is no profit and the reward points off pre-selling them it's not enough to make it worth the headache from the this isn't centered this has a corner ding this has a dent in the front or back

[jdandns]

Well, the basic pattern we've seen is this:

The first week will sell plenty, and then there will be a drop-off for sales for Week 2 (and possibly Week 3), as flippers realize they can't make any money selling Week 1. At that point, with the lower numbers for Week 2 (and possibly 3), people will be able to sell those at a profit. As soon as that occurs, resellers will then try to get back in thinking that can be done every week, which of course, it can't because by virtue of people doing that, the print runs will increase so that the after-market demand isn't there again, as with Week 1.

And so on....

WILD CARDS:

1. These are a little more expensive than previous Living Cards have been, and now everyone is also paying sales tax on them, which could depress initial orders somewhat. If they do end up looking sharp in hand, nicely centered, and without the damage that affected early Baseball Living set cards, orders could actually grow from week to week, in which case the Week 1 set could ultimately be the "SP" set, and end up holding the most value.

2. Kris Penix is a superb artist, who like Seto on Living baseball, will absolutely nail pretty much all of these characters likenesses, and that will help them to sell better than, for instance, the photograph driven "Countdown to Skywalker" set.

3. Longtime Star Wars collectors (myself included) are suckers for the original blue starfield border, which was a very wise choice Topps made to use on this set.

[Raymond23]

Originally Posted by dboutic617

1. Darth Vader
2. Nien Nunb

So, very first card of the Set, Topps puts a Vader ESB story summary on the back of Vader ANH Card?

Topps has to screw up the very first card???

[mfw13]

The problem is that there are a limited number of characters that people will actually be interested in collecting (maybe 20-25 total). What is Topps going to do after that?

[Americards]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

If Darth gets traded, do we get a new card?

Yes, If he goes to the bright side, there will be a new card.

[DR Murph]

Originally Posted by TwinsJake

I’m definitely not preselling any Living set cards on eBay anymore after this current week ends. For any of the lines.

Even when the cards don’t arrive damaged it’s a severely off-center mess. UCL is good condition wise since it’s white borders but they’re even more off-center than MLB from what I’ve received. Star Wars will have a lot of corner/edge damage from the colored borders.

Then it takes months and months to get anything replaced. Feels like the way of doing things is to just ignore it and hope it goes away.


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Bummer. Thanks for holding out for as long as you did!

Anyone else reputable preselling these?

[yrocks2001]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Vader is dead...doesn’t belong in Living set

Well SW takes place "A long time ago" so perhaps all of the characters are no longer living?

[Jbutton11]

I've never seen a star wars movie and have absolutely no interest in it. But, I might buy some of these just to see what the PR looks like. Is there enough of a market to keep this going?

[salthill]

Originally Posted by Jbutton11

I've never seen a star wars movie and have absolutely no interest in it. But, I might buy some of these just to see what the PR looks like. Is there enough of a market to keep this going?

Only one way to find out.

[cardsforever]

Originally Posted by Jbutton11

I've never seen a star wars movie and have absolutely no interest in it. But, I might buy some of these just to see what the PR looks like. Is there enough of a market to keep this going?

I've only watched (in the theater) the original three movies.

So I really don't know why I started collecting and buying the "Countdown To Episode 9" from Topps. I've come this far, so I may as well continue.

[Raymond23]

My prediction, from the buzz I have seen, is that week one will be the biggest PR of any Star Wars Countdown/On Demand Set so far (over 600). Then, PRs will drop into the 300-400 range quite fast. Once we get into all of the background characters and animated TV shows, we land in the 250ish range.

I looked at the MLB Living sets and low PR is in the 2500 range and some hot rookies getting around 30,000. Star Wars will never come close.

These are big money generators for Topps, but this set (like MLB Living) requires commissioned art for each card. Topps may not see it being worth the effort if the ROI dips too low. They have a contract with Penix for yearS (not specified how many) and I wonder if they will renew if if the PR are about 10% of the MLB version. Might be possible to collect a whole set, where MLB will likely never end (unless Topps loses the license).

So, I’ll guess a PR on Vader of 750...

Any other guesses?

[salthill]

Originally Posted by Raymond23

Once we get into all of the background characters and animated TV shows, we land in the 250ish range.

In the baseball LS, that happened immediately. ie they mixed legends/stars with lesser players almost from week one. It will be interesting to see how many weeks of Star Wars they release before we agree they’ve hit a “scrub” character.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Raymond23

...

So, I’ll guess a PR on Vader of 750...

Any other guesses?

I’ll guess a whole lot more than that. Maybe double.

I’ll also guess that people are now looking at when they will get out of buying Star Wars Countdown weekly cards so thy can now shift to this Living Set.

[mwheeler27]

What people need to do is hold off buying these COMPLETELY until the final day so we can see a 25% off coupon from Topps like we see in the soccer Living Set.

[Raymond23]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I’ll guess a whole lot more than that. Maybe double.

I’ll also guess that people are now looking at when they will get out of buying Star Wars Countdown weekly cards so thy can now shift to this Living Set.

Really?

The top selling countdown SW cards were from ROS promo (PR:3597)...likely due to the bargain basement price and new trailer and Celebration.

Ignoring that (since it is clearly an outlier), the highest PR by far was Countdown to Last Jedi Card 1 (Rey). A couple other cards in that set cracked 600 (I think), but 500+ is robust by Star Wars standards. I can see 776 to break the Rey card (maybe) because of Penix, but I can’t see 1000, much less 1500 (now that I said that, I think I just guaranteed us a 2000+ PR&#129315. We will find out soon enough...

[javabuddha]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I’ll guess a whole lot more than that. Maybe double.

I’ll also guess that people are now looking at when they will get out of buying Star Wars Countdown weekly cards so thy can now shift to this Living Set.

I agree. I've been buying two of every SW C2E9 card and I'm wondering if I might stop buying those to hop into SW TLS. We'll see. Might do both for the first couple of SW TLS weeks.

I also think Vader will crack 1000. I think you'll get people that collect any and all TLS cards, the flippers, the tire kickers, in addition to the SW fans.

[salthill]

I’m going to guess Vader easily breaks 2000.
(Feel free to Nelson gif me later)

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by salthill

I’m going to guess Vader easily breaks 2000.

You’ll probably be right. I could see it hitting 3 times 750 for at least a 2,150 PR.

[Raymond23]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

You’ll probably be right. I could see it hitting 3 times 750 for at least a 2,150 PR.

[Americards]

165,000 PR

[VinnyH]

I just got a usps tracking notice that I think is my 2 SWLS bundles.

Vinny

[TwinsJake]

Anyone catch a PR for this yet? Very curious how first 2 cards did.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by TwinsJake

Anyone catch a PR for this yet? Very curious how first 2 cards did.

2800 and 3900 for Vader

[Raymond23]

Darth Vader 3909
Nien Nunb 2888

Wow. Speechless...