WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[Cracktoast]

will be interesting to see the head to head ratings for SNME vs. AEW All In. For me AEW right now is the better product or at least more interesting.

I personally plan on recording SNME and fast forwarding through it for the 10 min or so worth watching and stream All In on MAX.

[Gurds]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

will be interesting to see the head to head ratings for SNME vs. AEW All In. For me AEW right now is the better product or at least more interesting.

I personally plan on recording SNME and fast forwarding through it for the 10 min or so worth watching and stream All In on MAX.

They aren't going head to head. All in starts at 3pm EST

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[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by Gurds

They aren't going head to head. All in starts at 3pm EST

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well same day then but the point remains AEW right now is much better than WWE. AEW is more edgier and entertaining while WWE holds comedic funerals for the New Day and Liv. WWE lately is trying to be way too corny and funny.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by bjho852

Man...Gunther being Raw's top champion feels like an afterthought to me, even more so with Rollins being on the same brand, not to mention the angle of Punk shoving Gunther down last week.

Yea, massive mistake taking the title off Jey for a Goldberg match. Jey is getting more and more over (which seems hard to believe) and nobody cares about Gunther.

[TimmyWeiss]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Yea, massive mistake taking the title off Jey for a Goldberg match. Jey is getting more and more over (which seems hard to believe) and nobody cares about Gunther.

I think it would be a good time to start a Drew-Gunther story. Someway to get Drew back in belt contention. I like him showing up on Smackdown but they are just adding him into random stories now to see what works.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Yea, massive mistake taking the title off Jey for a Goldberg match. Jey is getting more and more over (which seems hard to believe) and nobody cares about Gunther.

All Jey does is Yeet. He can be a Yeet machine on the midcard. His matches at best are mid so keep him out of the World Title scene.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by TimmyWeiss

I think it would be a good time to start a Drew-Gunther story. Someway to get Drew back in belt contention. I like him showing up on Smackdown but they are just adding him into random stories now to see what works.

They are both heels and work best as heels. They won't do a heel vs heel for the title.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by packman80

All Jey does is Yeet. He can be a Yeet machine on the midcard. His matches at best are mid so keep him out of the World Title scene.

We went from he sucks in the ring to at best mid! Glad you got out from under your rock to see his excellent match with Rollins a few weeks ago and his great match with boring Gunther.

It's wild, you probably want Kross pushed to the moon because his reactions, and yet Jey nothing but midcard even though he's the most over guy in the company, getting the loudest reactions.

Look, I know I'm wasting my time and all because you're a brickish type wall, but do you realize how insanely over you have to be to have the crowd interact (Yeet with him) for 2 minutes on TV, then 3 minutes during a commercial break, then 30 seconds back on TV, then when he stops, they STILL want to keep doing it. Seriously, that is how over the guy is, live crowds would be perfectly happy with 10 minutes of that. You realize how much of the roster would kill for even 30 seconds of that kind of crowd interaction because they aren't over enough to get that?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

We went from he sucks in the ring to at best mid! Glad you got out from under your rock to see his excellent match with Rollins a few weeks ago and his great match with boring Gunther.

It's wild, you probably want Kross pushed to the moon because his reactions, and yet Jey nothing but midcard even though he's the most over guy in the company, getting the loudest reactions.

Look, I know I'm wasting my time and all because you're a brickish type wall, but do you realize how insanely over you have to be to have the crowd interact (Yeet with him) for 2 minutes on TV, then 3 minutes during a commercial break, then 30 seconds back on TV, then when he stops, they STILL want to keep doing it. Seriously, that is how over the guy is, live crowds would be perfectly happy with 10 minutes of that. You realize how much of the roster would kill for even 30 seconds of that kind of crowd interaction because they aren't over enough to get that?

The lives crowds are idiots. Look at how the wrestlers mock them that they boo them one second and start chanting Seth Rollins song the next. The live crowds are a bunch of lemurs that will go along with the rest of them are doing. I know you refuse to admit Jey is nothing but a catchphrase but without it he's Jimmy Uso. Jey is just one large marketing gimmick. Without Yeet what is he? that is 99.9% of his entire character.

A guy like Kross while I am take or leave him kind of guy he at least can give a decent promo and not sit there and just Yeet for 5 minutes because he does not have any other promo skills.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by packman80

The lives crowds are idiots. Look at how the wrestlers mock them that they boo them one second and start chanting Seth Rollins song the next. The live crowds are a bunch of lemurs that will go along with the rest of them are doing. I know you refuse to admit Jey is nothing but a catchphrase but without it he's Jimmy Uso. Jey is just one large marketing gimmick. Without Yeet what is he? that is 99.9% of his entire character.

A guy like Kross while I am take or leave him kind of guy he at least can give a decent promo and not sit there and just Yeet for 5 minutes because he does not have any other promo skills.

Why would I admit something that isn't true? Again, for the 1500th time, if it was that easy ANY Wrestler could do it and be as over.

I'm not going to debate the point with you, you know my (correct) view, I know your (incorrect) view.

[packman80]

SMH why push these jobbers the Wyatt Sucks. They are still the same jobbers as before. This Bray Wyatt crap is old. He'd been dead for 2 years time to move on.

[Cracktoast]

TY Wyatts for giving The Profits the smoke

Hopefully someone attacks/interrupts Jelly Roll's stupid mini concert.

[packman80]

Guess we get a piss break tag match at SummerSlam between Logan/Drew vs Randy/Jelly

[packman80]

So much for for the rumors of Black being liked and getting pushed. Stuck in a go nowhere feud and losing to R-Truth?

[mtr]

Somehow WWE has been feeling very rushed lately but at the same time nothing important is happening. Too many shows with too little time to build them up.

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by mtr

Somehow WWE has been feeling very rushed lately but at the same time nothing important is happening. Too many shows with too little time to build them up.

People complained that 3 hrs was to long so is 2 1/2 the happy medium ? That might work for Netflix but regular tv likes shows to be in blocks of hours they frown on 30 min gaps.

I think the issue WWE has right now is there are too many top level performers because nobody wants to be considered mid-card anymore which is the whole purpose of the secondary titles. But when you are trying to make the IC and U.S. titles as important as the 2 World Titles there is nothing for the lower level talent to chase after. Go back to making the secondary title holders the #1 contenders like back in the day. There should only be 2 challengers max at any given time for the main titles.

[JustinVerlander07]

a 2 hour SNME show (with commercials), and only 4 matches? (One being a Goldberg match where the actual match lasts maybe 3 minutes at best?)

There are way too many PLE's, though which is why everything feels rushed and the stories don't feel great. Heck, SummerSlam is in 3 weeks and there is ZERO build to it.

The nice thing about the beginning of the year was Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber and Wrestlemania gave plenty of time to build the road to Wrestlemania, 2-3 weeks is just no time to do anything great.

[packman80]

Seems like could be a real Rollins injury to the knee as they went to a finish right away after the injury.

[Cracktoast]

Well for everyone that wanted his group to just disappear because it didn't make any sense and they found it boring congratulations it looks like you just got your wish.

The only saving grace as of right now he didn't appear to be in a terrible amount of pain so hopefully he was just being overly cautious take the loss in a meaningless match that nobody's going to remember two weeks from now and hopefully be ready to go for SummerSlam.

[Master Shake]

I think it might be a legit injury too. No way they would just kill Rollins push just like that. Knight looked legit disappointed too afterwards.

[packman80]

Rollins helped carried to the back after the match

https://x.com/WrestleOps/status/1944207017377177788

[Cracktoast]

I honestly and truthfully feel bad for Gunther for having to carry Goldberg's old ass around this ring for however many minutes this match is going to take. Goldberg gassed before he even got halfway up the entrance.

You have to wonder if the end of this match is going to change and somebody's going to come out because Seth Rollins match was cut short and they've got so much time left.

[natbornkiller]

callin it seth cashes in

[Cracktoast]

Well ok then let's just go to a random commercial break with 3 min left after the match ends

[no10pin]

Yeah, what the hell is this? Is that how the show is going to end? I guess 45 minutes of commercials in 2 hours wasn't enough.