Ronald Acuña - Page 1945

ThoseBackPages · 09-22-2023, 06:22 PM

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oddstuff · 09-22-2023, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

Now that Acuna has made MLB history and likely will win NL MVP...what do you think will happen to his cards? I collect Acuna like others on this board, but I bought the majority of my cards at the height of the covid boom. The majority of his low end cards are like 50-70% off their highs. Is the current market for current super star players ever going to get better?

Regardless it is super easy to root for Acuna as he is fun to watch!

Not in the near future...it will take some time for prices to elevate...so it's a long term hold for lower end stuff (even most high end) if the hope is for prices to get back to covid levels. People just are more careful with their spending right now. We didn't see covid coming either though...so some other future "event" may spur mass spending by people.

hammertime · 09-22-2023, 06:22 PM

Dang it I should've gone to the game.

ThoseBackPages · 09-22-2023, 06:22 PM

Topps NOW

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FT35

I love Mookie Betts! He’s having a phenomenal year. The MVP is Ronald Acuna Jr.

Agreed, but to say it isn't a discussion is foolish.

In my opinion Betts fielding is a differentiator.

However, I think the disturbance Acuna causes on the bases is a bigger differentiator.

I am just saying those two along with Freeman and Olson are having amazing years, and as a result Acuna is not running away with the MVP right now. HR 40 did help.

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

There's a Mookie thread somewhere on page 3 or 4.

I am a baseball fan. Acuna and Betts are amazing players. I just am not a fan of close minded people that won't listen to reason and just say discussion closed.

rngrdanny22 · 09-22-2023, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

I am a baseball fan. Acuna and Betts are amazing players. I just am not a fan of close minded people that won't listen to reason and just say discussion closed.

Vegas says the discussion is closed.

whitmm · 09-22-2023, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Going into today.

Runs 140-123 in 8 more games. That isn't close? Nowhere close
Avg .335 to .309. That isn't close? Nowhere close
Hits + Walks Acuna 285 to Betts 260

Betts has two more extra base hits, so I guess Acuna is nowhere close.

OPS 1.006 to 1.001 (Acuna owns Betts?)
Slug .592 to .592 (Again Acuna crushing)

fielding Shortstop, 2nd and OF is because he sucks at fielding and they cannot find a place for him?

Try to have logic when you make a comment.

Of course you throw out WAR. Betts is leading that one so throw it out.

No, you throw out WAR because those that created it tell you that a a couple tenths does not mean that the leader is actually having the better season, and shouldn't be used as a precise measurement. You saying Mookie is having a better season because he leads WAR 7.9 to 7.8 (or whatever the numbers are) is you using it wrong

whitmm · 09-22-2023, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Agreed, but to say it isn't a discussion is foolish.

In my opinion Betts fielding is a differentiator.

However, I think the disturbance Acuna causes on the bases is a bigger differentiator.

I am just saying those two along with Freeman and Olson are having amazing years, and as a result Acuna is not running away with the MVP right now. HR 40 did help.

If everyone knows Ronald is the MVP, there's no discussion to have.

dream34 · 09-22-2023, 06:27 PM

Kaboom!! It's been such a fun journey to follow his career so far!!

mlbfan10 · 09-22-2023, 06:31 PM

Absolutely amazing, what a season! MVP

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oddstuff · 09-22-2023, 06:32 PM

Try the other thread if you want to have MVP discussion...doing it in a player thread won't get very far.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...566091&page=83

tedwilliamsfan · 09-22-2023, 06:34 PM

GO RONNIE GO!!!

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

No, you throw out WAR because those that created it tell you that a a couple tenths does not mean that the leader is actually having the better season, and shouldn't be used as a precise measurement. You saying Mookie is having a better season because he leads WAR 7.9 to 7.8 (or whatever the numbers are) is you using it wrong

I am not saying that. I am just saying it is another measurement.

Acuna leads all of baseball in Caught Stealing. Does that make him better too. Just be sensible.

Take all the other numbers and add fielding please. It is a close race. You know they play defense more than they have plate appearances.

Acuna also has 1 more error than Betts. Acuna wins everything. Errors, Caught stealing (Betts has zero errors in RF and has 2 less assists 10-8 in 45 less games.) Perennial gold glove (6 times) defense is something.

BabaORiley · 09-22-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Agreed, but to say it isn't a discussion is foolish.

In my opinion Betts fielding is a differentiator.

However, I think the disturbance Acuna causes on the bases is a bigger differentiator.

I am just saying those two along with Freeman and Olson are having amazing years, and as a result Acuna is not running away with the MVP right now. HR 40 did help.

I don't think anyone would dispute the following: Mookie Betts has had an absolutely incredible season, deserving of MVP in nearly any other post-peak-PED season. Same for Freddie and Olson. It's just that THIS is that season that is the exception. I get it though. Mookie Betts has been absolutely incredible. Acuna has been a bit better and has a more easily digestible narrative.

whitmm · 09-22-2023, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

I am not saying that. I am just saying it is another measurement.

Acuna leads all of baseball in Caught Stealing. Does that make him better too. Just be sensible.

Take all the other numbers and add fielding please. It is a close race. You know they play defense more than they have plate appearances.

Acuna also has 1 more error than Betts. Acuna wins everything. Errors, Caught stealing (Betts has zero errors in RF and has 2 less assists 10-8 in 45 less games.) Perennial gold glove (6 times) defense is something.

My last comment on this. Those 6 gold gloves mean absolutely nothing in regards to the 2023 NL MVP.

Now, take your Mookie talk to the MVP or Mookie Betts thread

BabaORiley · 09-22-2023, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dream34

Kaboom!! It's been such a fun journey to follow his career so far!!

I maintain (for roughly the 382nd time on these boards) that this is the most aesthetically pleasing baseball card of the modern/post-modern era.

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

If everyone knows Ronald is the MVP, there's no discussion to have.

Put your money where your mouth is. I also think Acuna will win, but not confident enough to bet it. You guys are so sure, you should be betting the house on it.

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

My last comment on this. Those 6 gold gloves mean absolutely nothing in regards to the 2023 NL MVP.

Now, take your Mookie talk to the MVP or Mookie Betts thread

He is poised to win another. But fielding doesn't count, because it ruins your argument.

izucantc · 09-22-2023, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

Try the other thread if you want to have MVP discussion...doing it in a player thread won't get very far.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...566091&page=83

Seriously why come in here and try to have an MVP discussion lol

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1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BabaORiley

I don't think anyone would dispute the following: Mookie Betts has had an absolutely incredible season, deserving of MVP in nearly any other post-peak-PED season. Same for Freddie and Olson. It's just that THIS is that season that is the exception. I get it though. Mookie Betts has been absolutely incredible. Acuna has been a bit better and has a more easily digestible narrative.

This is well thought out and reasonable. You must be on the wrong forum.

whitmm · 09-22-2023, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Put your money where your mouth is. I also think Acuna will win, but not confident enough to bet it. You guys are so sure, you should be betting the house on it.

How do you know I don't already?

1977 Cloth · 09-22-2023, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by izucantc

Seriously why come in here and try to have an MVP discussion lol

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I just hate stupid and couldn't leave it alone. "Not a discussion" - Not close when they are close. Who cares about fielding?

Freshmaker · 09-22-2023, 06:48 PM

What time do the Topps Nows go on sale usually? The email always seems to arrive several hours after lol. Going to try and snag the auto that is surely coming

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Onepocketj · 09-22-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Put your money where your mouth is. I also think Acuna will win, but not confident enough to bet it. You guys are so sure, you should be betting the house on it.

Lmao. He's -2500 right now.
The time to bet was two weeks ago.

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