The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-20/21 Edition - Page 193

daeve · 03-22-2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Jokic definitely is not getting that respect. Imagine him getting an extra 4 or 5 free throws per game like the other studs.

Crazy.

Malone needs to send 2 mins worth of fouls from their last few games that didn't get called.

It works

even more to back this up:

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Jokic is 1st in the NBA in touches, 1st in FG's made, top 10 in points in the paint, gets doubled or even triple teamed with regularity but is somehow t27th in FT per game... Players ahead of him include Sabonis, Gobert, Randle, Bam... and he is tied with Siakam.

brothertona · 03-22-2021, 07:23 PM

Who are the Mavericks going to trade for JC? I'd guess Josh Richardson + Kleber + 2022 pick and one of Terry/Green/Bey?

boxbuster7 · 03-22-2021, 07:24 PM

The lakers should go after Norman Powell

drobfan8 · 03-22-2021, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

You seem to be having some trouble comprehending what I said..

He wasn't a loser without Pippen, he just had a losing record. It's not debatable. It's a fact.

What isn't clear about that?

It's just a weird take..

Like who are all these 3rd year players that are carrying teams to winning records early on?

3 seasons making the Playoffs in an all time great conference gets you called out as a loser.

I'm reading what you're saying. Record wise. But it's as if he was gonna keep on losing if Pip never came. Ha ha. Glorious.

So Durant and Bron are losers also until they got other guys? They started with losing records and sure as sh*t didn't make the Playoffs. And Bron had it real easy in the East at that time. It was all time bad.

Just a funny take. Reminds me of the ridiculous Kevin Love stats that used to be around.

Weird thing to say. As most can't be as great as Tim Duncan and just win right off the bat

brock · 03-22-2021, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

It's just a weird take..

Like who are all these 3rd year players that are carrying teams to winning records early on?

3 seasons making the Playoffs in an all time great conference gets you called out as a loser.

I'm reading what you're saying. Record wise. But it's as if he was gonna keep on losing if Pip never came. Ha ha. Glorious.

So Durant and Bron are losers also until they got other guys? They started with losing records and sure as sh*t didn't make the Playoffs. And Bron had it real easy in the East at that time. It was all time bad.

Just a funny take. Reminds me of the ridiculous Kevin Love stats that used to be around.

Weird thing to say. As most can't be as great as Tim Duncan and just win right off the bat

But do you have to include two terrible out of prime seasons with my wizards in order for this stat to be true? If so, it invalidates the stat.

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RogerGodahell · 03-22-2021, 08:08 PM

Kyrie must have needed a week off for spring break. He just needs a week or two off every once in awhile to clear his head.

tjforce · 03-22-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brock

But do you have to include two terrible out of prime seasons with my wizards in order for this stat to be true? If so, it invalidates the stat.

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Nope... You could look at just Chicago and it's under .500.

It wasn't to throw shade at Michael, and please don't bring a certain someone into this debate.

All this is doing is proving my original point that even superstars need good players around them to succeed, and that some people would have a very hard time admitting to the fact that Jordan was under .500 without Pippen, even though it's an undeniable fact.

drobfan8 · 03-22-2021, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Nope... You could look at just Chicago and it's under .500.

It wasn't to throw shade at Michael, and please don't bring a certain someone into this debate.

All this is doing is proving my original point that even superstars need good players around them to succeed, and that some people would have a very hard time admitting to the fact that Jordan was under .500 without Pippen, even though it's an undeniable fact.

Still a terrible take.

First 3 seasons of someones career. Ha ha. As if that's something to hold on to.

Won 50 games where Pip came off the bench the entire year. But your take is as if Jordan wasn't capable of a winning record.

Just bad, really bad.

Pip wasn't even much of a difference maker his 1st couple of seasons. There were better players on the team.

packerfan4200 · 03-22-2021, 08:36 PM

Bucks on pace for nearly 200 after 1st quarter without Giannis lol. Like how this team is coming together past month or so.

drobfan8 · 03-22-2021, 08:39 PM

LeBron had a career losing record until Larry Hughes got there.

Durant had a career losing record until Harden got there.

Steph Curry had a career losing record until Draymond got there

These are even more meaningless than the Jordan 1.

Terrible data that meant nothing in such a small sample.

packerfan4200 · 03-22-2021, 08:46 PM

12 pts, 7 ast, 1 reb, 2 steals and 1 block on 5-6 for Jrue in 12 min so far tonight

jweeks80 · 03-22-2021, 09:48 PM

So are people ready to accept that the Hawks are for real?

tjforce · 03-22-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Still a terrible take.

First 3 seasons of someones career. Ha ha. As if that's something to hold on to.

Won 50 games where Pip came off the bench the entire year. But your take is as if Jordan wasn't capable of a winning record.

Just bad, really bad.

Pip wasn't even much of a difference maker his 1st couple of seasons. There were better players on the team.

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

LeBron had a career losing record until Larry Hughes got there.

Durant had a career losing record until Harden got there.

Steph Curry had a career losing record until Draymond got there

These are even more meaningless than the Jordan 1.

Terrible data that meant nothing in such a small sample.

Man... my intent was not to trigger you this much.

Doesn't change the fact that my statement was 100% accurate though. Just stating a fact.

You calling it a 'take'... that wasn't really what it is.

tjforce · 03-22-2021, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

So are people ready to accept that the Hawks are for real?

If they can close this one out then it'll go a long way towards it.

Still a lot of game to go though. Let's see what they can do against the big dogs down the stretch.

drobfan8 · 03-22-2021, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

So are people ready to accept that the Hawks are for real?

If they hold the 4th spot in the East and win a series that would be a great result.

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Man... my intent was not to trigger you this much.

Doesn't change the fact that my statement was 100% accurate though. Just stating a fact.

You calling it a 'take'... that wasn't really what it is.

No trigger here. Still a terrible take because you're insinuating that Jordan would have continued with a career losing record without Pip, even though they won 50 games with Pip never starting 1 game.

jweeks80 · 03-22-2021, 10:25 PM

[QUOTE=drobfan8;17140671]If they hold the 4th spot in the East and win a series that would be a great result.

Winning a playoff series would be big. But I think the Hawks may have a higher ceiling than that.

PKIPP · 03-22-2021, 10:33 PM

Good showing for the Jazz tonight.

Mitchell with an easy 30 in 30 minutes..21 in the first half.. 5 3’s, 6 assists, 6 rebounds.

Gobert 1 block shy of a triple double with 21-10-9. Bout to be a 3x defensive player of the year whether Beta Ben likes it or not.

Joe Ingles remains on FIRE from 3 point land.

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rhigh2390 · 03-22-2021, 10:37 PM

Man, are the Clips a mess lol. Good teams can get blown out once in a while, but the Clips seem to get blown out weekly. They are still not contending at all for the West. Would have liked to see an LA matchup.

Remember when the Clips were going to be the toughest defensive team ever?

mfw13 · 03-22-2021, 10:37 PM

What's up with the Clippers....getting skunked at home by the Hawks....

jweeks80 · 03-22-2021, 10:39 PM

Lue just benched all the starters.

rhigh2390 · 03-22-2021, 10:44 PM

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Lue just benched all the starters.

Good. Ever since they put this team together, they have played with the least amount of heart in the NBA. It's like they still think all they have to do is show up to the arena.

Dame · 03-22-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

So are people ready to accept that the Hawks are for real?

I saw the potential in that roster during offseason, So I had them at #5.

Some guy thought it was a bright idea to bump it halfway through the year though

Still plenty of games left. Ups and downs, as always- surprised everyone that they were able to turn it around overnight.

But this is how I envisioned the pieces would fit. Only a few knew about the dissension and locker room issues which was the root of their problem.

I think Deandre Hunter and Dunn are also scheduled to join that team soon.

If they win the game tonight, coach Nate could continue this excellent streak. Soft schedule, no reason bot finish 7-3 in their next 10- unless they revert to being a confused team.

drobfan8 · 03-22-2021, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

If they hold the 4th spot in the East and win a series that would be a great result.

Winning a playoff series would be big. But I think the Hawks may have a higher ceiling than that.

They don't

brothertona · 03-22-2021, 10:51 PM

The Hawks since Nate took over have been pretty good. They slowed their pace way way down and have played incredibly solid defense even Trae who has become a decent team defender. They very well could finish with a 6th seed or higher. I have a hard time seeing them settling for a play-in game. I definitely didn't expect them to put it to the Clippers but I mean they have the same net rating as the Sixers.

brothertona · 03-22-2021, 10:52 PM

Trae has the ability to have a Dame/Steph like playoff series so they could be a scary team but I think if they finish with the 4th/5th seed and get knocked out it's a hell of a year and I'll take that in a heartbeat from the Hawks. That is massive growth.

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jweeks80 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 82	[QUOTE=drobfan8;17140671]If they hold the 4th spot in the East and win a series that would be a great result. Winning a playoff series would be big. But I think the Hawks may have a higher ceiling than that.

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brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,937 brothertona1	The Hawks since Nate took over have been pretty good. They slowed their pace way way down and have played incredibly solid defense even Trae who has become a decent team defender. They very well could finish with a 6th seed or higher. I have a hard time seeing them settling for a play-in game. I definitely didn't expect them to put it to the Clippers but I mean they have the same net rating as the Sixers.

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brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,937 brothertona1	Trae has the ability to have a Dame/Steph like playoff series so they could be a scary team but I think if they finish with the 4th/5th seed and get knocked out it's a hell of a year and I'll take that in a heartbeat from the Hawks. That is massive growth.