The Zion 'Fatboi' Williamson Career LDL/HDL Tracker | BBW Appreciation Megathread. - Page 191

Topherfoy · 05-03-2021, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Yep, all the big boys still aren’t really pumping Zion yet. Probably because they are all buying while it’s cheap and they don’t want the market to jump yet. There was a point not too long ago when Zion and Ja were even on most cards, and Ja actually climbed slightly ahead in some cases. But now Zion is the clear #1 from that class and Ja is lagging behind, so I can see why some people think he’s undervalued in comparison now. I’m just not that high on Ja. I think Zion has a much higher ceiling (MVP, best player on a championship team, etc.), and I don’t see Ja getting to that level. If you gave me two options and I could only pick one: either Ja wins an MVP/Finals MVP...or he never makes an all-star team, honestly I’d probably pick the never makes an all-star team option.

I like Ja a lot too. He's got the personality mixed with talent/ athleticism. Also, you can clearly see he wants to be one of the biggest super stars. But he just seems to resemble D Rose way too much to me. Can't imagine him playing the way he does very long.

Dame · 05-03-2021, 01:45 PM

[QUOTE=gomiamigo;17287168]Just wait for the offseason selloff, hype about Lamelo winning ROY, new draft class, etc.[/QUOTE

Yep, this too. Z simply needs to be on a winning team, hopefully the Pelicans FO construct a better roster. First thing they need to do really is get Bledsoe off the team.

BeastMode27 · 05-03-2021, 01:49 PM

Yes the pumpers are buying his stuff, and yes his stuff will be en fuego by October. Last chance to buy is now until a couple weeks after finals, assuming they don’t make playoffs.

Szadeh7 · 05-03-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartyon

I don't think that Origins card is a bad pick-up. Personally, I'm loading up on Select and Revolutions. Revolutions feels a little riskier, but for Zion specifically the image on the card and relative low pop counts sold me. Select is basically my pick out of the prizm/select/optic trifecta at the top of the market. And I have been buying all 3 levels in various grades

Yeah going to think about it. I’ll see if I can get him lower. Closer to $1k and I’ll be good with it. I have his prizm base, select base and just picked up the optic fanatics parallel for a good price on eBay last night. Slowly adding to my collection.

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Spacemanspif · 05-03-2021, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Just wait for the offseason selloff, hype about Lamelo winning ROY, new draft class, etc.

Possibly, but it's also possible this IS the offseason. Again, every channel is saying to wait until the offseason, because Pelicans won't be in the playoffs, etc. Previously, the cycles were predictable, and driven by who is currently playing, making headlines, whatever. Now I feel like it's driven by "investor" channels, and if they're all saying to not buy, I should be shopping (selectively, some low POP stuff just doesn't come around often enough). When they start saying BUY NAO, is when I should be looking to sell the things making the biggest leaps

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Originally Posted by Dame

Yep, this too. Z simply needs to be on a winning team, hopefully the Pelicans FO construct a better roster. First thing they need to do really is get Bledsoe off the team.

FWIW, career winning %:

Luka: 51%
Ja: 50%
Zion: 47%
Trae: 39%

in any and all cases of prospecting, you're betting on their potential. Zion is always the only one being held to different standards. I made a list a long time ago, but the stuff about POP is not exclusive to Zion. The winning or MVP requirements are not exclusive to Zion. The stuff about injury risk is not exclusive to Zion. But those things always get mentioned in the counterarguments to him, and not to the players being pumped. Perhaps I'm subscribed to the wrong channels and poke my head in the wrong threads.

edit: I agree with the Bledsoe take. he's awful. I'm also of the unpopular opinion they need to get rid of Ingram. I don't like his game or body language, and would rather have another player that's a better fit for Zion and has more leadership / competitive intangibles.

imbluestreak23 · 05-03-2021, 06:48 PM

I'm hoping fat boy makes Draymond his B tonight

blackandgold · 05-03-2021, 06:50 PM

Zo has a vision and Zion is not seeing it

ninjacookies · 05-03-2021, 06:56 PM

Not the start I was hoping for.

Then again, we probably want a terrible start when it comes to this team.

MattMiller · 05-03-2021, 06:58 PM

Expect the unexpected with the pels

kd the sniper · 05-03-2021, 07:03 PM

Need some back2back magic

kd the sniper · 05-03-2021, 07:04 PM

Bledsoe is a special kind of stupid

imbluestreak23 · 05-03-2021, 07:06 PM

Surely there is some G leaguer who can replace Bledsoe. My god

MattMiller · 05-03-2021, 07:08 PM

Was just thinking that!

RandysHobby · 05-03-2021, 07:10 PM

Bledsoe is so #@#@#@#@ing awful.

ninjacookies · 05-03-2021, 07:10 PM

lel that Blesoe self-alley attempt going out of bounds was magical.

He keeps raising the bar for Shaqtin MVP hopefuls.

kd the sniper · 05-03-2021, 07:12 PM

Curry playing like he wants to win . my god

ninjacookies · 05-03-2021, 07:13 PM

Chef now the BBW's arch nemesis.

I feel so conflicted.

bigjbasketball · 05-03-2021, 07:14 PM

Pels can’t win with Curry shooting like this. This dude just tosses it from anywhere and hits nothing but net. I just want them to get mathematically eliminated at this point so I can stop hoping they still have a chance lol.

kd the sniper · 05-03-2021, 07:15 PM

James Johnson, Bledsoe.. Not winning basketball

ninjacookies · 05-03-2021, 07:17 PM

We all knew this team is hot trash at guarding the 3. Perhaps the worst.

But it's still early. Let's all hold out hope Steph's wife inexplicably becomes preggo and goes into labor at halftime so he has to leave.

kd the sniper · 05-03-2021, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

We all knew this team is hot trash at guarding the 3. Perhaps the worst.

But it's still early. Let's all hold out hope Steph's wife inexplicably becomes preggo and goes into labor at halftime so he has to leave.

Guarantee that fool is having triplets

imbluestreak23 · 05-03-2021, 07:22 PM

Zion getting easy buckets, but Steph is putting on an insane show.

Can't wait for a healthy Klay to come back, and a potential #4 pick coming. GSW easily top 2 seed in 2022 in the west if those things happen.

Prime time basketball has been good when the players actually play. Durant, Giannis, Steph. All good shows lately.

ninjacookies · 05-03-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kd the sniper

Guarantee that fool is having triplets

Phatboi looks angry. Feed the beast. Their only chance is going thermo nuclear with steph sitting.

Pls.

Spartyon · 05-03-2021, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Zion getting easy buckets, but Steph is putting on an insane show.

Can't wait for a healthy Klay to come back, and a potential #4 pick coming. GSW easily top 2 seed in 2022 in the west if those things happen.

Prime time basketball has been good when the players actually play. Durant, Giannis, Steph. All good shows lately.

Wrong thread

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TheKillers11 · 05-03-2021, 07:28 PM

This officially ends the season tonight. These guys don’t want it badly enough — evident by Bledsoe and JJ alone.

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05-03-2021, 01:45 PM	#4752
Dame Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3,482	[QUOTE=gomiamigo;17287168]Just wait for the offseason selloff, hype about Lamelo winning ROY, new draft class, etc.[/QUOTE Yep, this too. Z simply needs to be on a winning team, hopefully the Pelicans FO construct a better roster. First thing they need to do really is get Bledsoe off the team. Last edited by Dame; 05-03-2021 at 02:11 PM.

05-03-2021, 06:48 PM	#4756
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,756 shortslabs	I'm hoping fat boy makes Draymond his B tonight __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

05-03-2021, 06:56 PM	#4758
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,854	Not the start I was hoping for. Then again, we probably want a terrible start when it comes to this team. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

05-03-2021, 07:06 PM	#4762
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,756 shortslabs	Surely there is some G leaguer who can replace Bledsoe. My god __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

05-03-2021, 07:10 PM	#4765
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,854	lel that Blesoe self-alley attempt going out of bounds was magical. He keeps raising the bar for Shaqtin MVP hopefuls. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

05-03-2021, 01:49 PM	#4753
BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	Yes the pumpers are buying his stuff, and yes his stuff will be en fuego by October. Last chance to buy is now until a couple weeks after finals, assuming they don’t make playoffs.

05-03-2021, 06:50 PM	#4757
blackandgold Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lockport La Posts: 9,120 guidry2732	Zo has a vision and Zion is not seeing it

05-03-2021, 06:58 PM	#4759
MattMiller Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 413	Expect the unexpected with the pels

05-03-2021, 07:03 PM	#4760
kd the sniper Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1,944 kdthesniper3five on I.g	Need some back2back magic

05-03-2021, 07:04 PM	#4761
kd the sniper Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1,944 kdthesniper3five on I.g	Bledsoe is a special kind of stupid

05-03-2021, 07:08 PM	#4763
MattMiller Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 413	Was just thinking that!

05-03-2021, 07:10 PM	#4764
RandysHobby Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,362 NickFolesEaglesQB	Bledsoe is so #@#@#@#@ing awful.

05-03-2021, 07:12 PM	#4766
kd the sniper Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1,944 kdthesniper3five on I.g	Curry playing like he wants to win . my god

05-03-2021, 07:13 PM	#4767
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,854	Chef now the BBW's arch nemesis. I feel so conflicted. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

05-03-2021, 07:14 PM	#4768
bigjbasketball Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,293 BigJBasketball BigJBasketball	Pels can’t win with Curry shooting like this. This dude just tosses it from anywhere and hits nothing but net. I just want them to get mathematically eliminated at this point so I can stop hoping they still have a chance lol. __________________ Instagram: @BigJBasketball PC: Zo - Manu - Deni - Kobe - John Wallace

05-03-2021, 07:15 PM	#4769
kd the sniper Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1,944 kdthesniper3five on I.g	James Johnson, Bledsoe.. Not winning basketball

05-03-2021, 07:17 PM	#4770
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,854	We all knew this team is hot trash at guarding the 3. Perhaps the worst. But it's still early. Let's all hold out hope Steph's wife inexplicably becomes preggo and goes into labor at halftime so he has to leave. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

05-03-2021, 07:22 PM	#4772
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,756 shortslabs	Zion getting easy buckets, but Steph is putting on an insane show. Can't wait for a healthy Klay to come back, and a potential #4 pick coming. GSW easily top 2 seed in 2022 in the west if those things happen. Prime time basketball has been good when the players actually play. Durant, Giannis, Steph. All good shows lately. __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

05-03-2021, 07:28 PM	#4775
TheKillers11 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 270	This officially ends the season tonight. These guys don’t want it badly enough — evident by Bledsoe and JJ alone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk