Blowout Dynasty League: Year 1

[cromartie3145]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I wouldn't actually take a lower player instead of a better one just to "mess" with someone. Look out for Cromartie's Nassib pick in the 24th!

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

It was between Buck and Michael for me, I picked the one that will (hopefully) pay dividends this year. CM is a great future pick though.

Originally Posted by addicted36

Not if he lets him pass again he wont

Thanks! I was actually looking to draft either Buck or Tali as I think one of those guys becomes the Ravens future starter (plus I'm a Ravens fan), but since they were both gone I went Michael. I'm hoping his athletic ability turns into success at some point. Figured it was worth the gamble and stash.

As for Nassib, I'm as big a Nassib fan and collector as you'll find, but unless he's available very late I won't be drafting him. Barring a significant injury to Manning or absolute horrific play this year, I don't see Nassib taking the reigns anytime soon. Plus, early camp reports have not been too promising (not that this means a whole lot, but it is somewhat concerning).

I'll always be a huge Nassib fan and supporter, but I'd be surprised if he ever became a huge NFL success. Obviously I really, really hope he does though haha

I collect Nassib more for the person he is rather than the player he is (if that makes sense).

Plus, whenever I draft a PC centerpiece player of mine I seem to always jinx them haha. So I'd rather have him destroy me year in and year out in fantasy than me jinx him lol.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by addicted36

Not if he lets him pass again he won't hahaha I think it's safe to say he and I both have high hopes for him

As far as lower player comment is that a small shot fired? Truth is my starters for this year are in place and we all think differently about value. I did like your last pick before Fleener it forced my hand to TE I like Conley and would have taken him there if available too. But I had hoped that I would have handicapped my TE this round and he was my real target. Once a round I think if he's there he's mine and that was it this round one round too late doh

Noooooo! No shots fired. It's fantasy football, the truth is none of us know what's going to happen, we're all just making our best guess. I teased the guy who has "weak" RBs, but who knows, maybe Sankey and Coleman each get 1400 yds and 10 TDs. Who'd be laughing then? I def hope my words didn't offend, the last thing I want to do is offend a potential trading partner before the season even opens.

[TheFrenzy]

What are the odds we could plan on getting together either Friday or Sunday night and finishing this in one fell swoop? I mean, we're only looking at 1 1/2 hours at this point.

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Realistically I could take Nassib... but I think he's absolutely terrible. I can't override his pretty good past pre-season stats with the fact he was struggling to surpass Curtis Painter at one point. I don't think I can ever forgive that.

I think you lost your mind. Struggling to do what? Do you give up on QBs in their rookie seasons always?

Ryan Nassib led the NFL in passer rating last years regular season and was the 4th best passer in last years preseason and was expected to go to the Bills in the 2013 draft in the first round right up until the draft. I bet the Bills wish they had taken him over EJ Manual now. And Curtis Painter? He was the vet backup on the Giants in his rookie year and last year the Giants cut him because of how good Nassib was

NFL roster cuts: Giants to waive Curtis Painter, keep only two QBs with Ryan Nassib as backup | NJ.com

BTW I'm not unbiased here about my belief in him

Ryan Nassib - Giants

Cro is the king of Nassib Contenders but I am the supercollector of Nassib.

BTW not sure what reports your reading where he's struggling in camp, I saw the report that he threw some picks in practice but also saw these reports

Giants OTA Practice Report; Things we learned (5/28)

There will be more on top plays and standout players later this afternoon on Giants.com, but to set the stage, quarterback Ryan Nassib looked sharp as he prepares for his third NFL season. The Syracuse product showed great touch on a handful of perfect passes throughout practice.

He's only 24 and his last two preseasons at times reports weren't perfect either, yet in limited activity last year he went 44-of-74 passing for 588 yards, five touchdown passes and no interceptions and that's not because he sucks.

I don't think there is a chance in hell that Ricky Stanzi beats him out for the backup job. I do understand thinking he can't help you this year though but his future is very bright and in a league running on empty in starting QB's I think him sitting on the bench only helps him become a star down the road. Time will tell for sure but I've always liked QB's who sat watched and learned. It does help their games rather then being thrown into the fire too soon. The issue is Mr. Iron Man, one injury though

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Noooooo! No shots fired. It's fantasy football, the truth is none of us know what's going to happen, we're all just making our best guess. I teased the guy who has "weak" RBs, but who knows, maybe Sankey and Coleman each get 1400 yds and 10 TDs. Who'd be laughing then? I def hope my words didn't offend, the last thing I want to do is offend a potential trading partner before the season even opens.

We good not offended just shooting the #@#@#@#@ with my league mates

[TheFrenzy]

I'll be honest here, I do remember reading articles arguing for Nassib as the #1 overall pick. I even picked up a few Nassib Chrome autos.

But I ended up selling them for a loss. I have no faith.

[SleeperCards]

I'm on the internet 24/7, it's you guys that have to come up with a time

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by addicted36

I think you lost your mind. Struggling to do what? Do you give up on QBs in their rookie seasons always?

Ryan Nassib led the NFL in passer rating last years regular season and was the 4th best passer in last years preseason and was expected to go to the Bills in the 2013 draft in the first round right up until the draft. I bet the Bills wish they had taken him over EJ Manual now. And Curtis Painter? He was the vet on the Giants in his rookie year and last year the Giants cut him because of how good Nassib was

NFL roster cuts: Giants to waive Curtis Painter, keep only two QBs with Ryan Nassib as backup | NJ.com

BTW I'm not unbiased here about my belief

Ryan Nassib - Giants

Cro is the king of Nassib Contenders but I am the supercollector of Nassib.

BTW not sure what reports your reading where he's struggling in camp, I saw the report that he threw some picks in practice but also saw these reports

Giants OTA Practice Report; Things we learned (5/28)



I don't think there is a chance in hell that Ricky Stanzi does better then he does this year. I do understand thinking he can't help you this year though but his future is bright to me.

TL;DR: CURTIS PAINTER


The Newark Star-Ledger believes Giants second-year QB Ryan Nassib is in danger of not making the 53-man roster.
Just last April, he was being talked up as a potential top-ten draft pick. Nassib ended up lasting to the fourth round. He was then believed to be in line to succeed Eli Manning. Now, he may lose his roster spot to Curtis Painter -- the same Painter that has an 0-8 career record and 57.6 passer rating. Fri, Aug 15, 2014 09:11:00 AM
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I'll be honest here, I do remember reading articles arguing for Nassib as the #1 overall pick. I even picked up a few Nassib Chrome autos.

But I ended up selling them for a loss. I have no faith.

Was that before or after Jon Gruden picked him to be the best QB in the class, a year after he said after Luck the best QB in the 2012 draft class was an unknown Russell Wilson? Grudens QB camp is much watch to me. He's goofy as hell but track record is outstanding.

[TheFrenzy]

I remember they were Bleacher Report articles, but still.......

Nassib and Mike Glennon were both touted as #1 picks at one point. But then again, Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson were also slated to be First Round picks in 2012. Just imagine if they hadn't gone back for their senior years......

(I still probably have the nicest Tyler Wilson collection on the planet. Which is kind of like saying "I have the most extensive toe nail collection" at this point.)

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

TL;DR: CURTIS PAINTER


The Newark Star-Ledger believes Giants second-year QB Ryan Nassib is in danger of not making the 53-man roster.
Just last April, he was being talked up as a potential top-ten draft pick. Nassib ended up lasting to the fourth round. He was then believed to be in line to succeed Eli Manning. Now, he may lose his roster spot to Curtis Painter -- the same Painter that has an 0-8 career record and 57.6 passer rating. Fri, Aug 15, 2014 09:11:00 AM
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

You have now almost completely lost credibility with me, TLDR? Total nonsense. You really just did post an article older and completely irrelevant to what reality is. Is this real life? That reminds me of this

[SleeperCards]

Weird all those posts showed up out of order for me. I guess we're ending on a kicker tonight? Is next guy alive?

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I remember they were Bleacher Report articles, but still.......

Nassib and Mike Glennon were both touted as #1 picks at one point. But then again, Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson were also slated to be First Round picks in 2012. Just imagine if they hadn't gone back for their senior years......

(I still probably have the nicest Tyler Wilson collection on the planet. Which is kind of like saying "I have the most extensive toe nail collection" at this point.)

I liked him after Mallett at Arkansas. At least he did you the service of washing out fast so as not to string you along.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by addicted36

You have now almost completely lost credibility with me, TLDR? Total nonsense. You really just did post an article older and completely irrelevant to what reality is. Is this real life? That reminds me of this

Um, it's completely relevant to what I was talking about. You made it sound like I made the Painter stuff up out of the blue, I was just pointing you toward the article. Like I said at one point in time he struggled with CURTIS PAINTER and that was enough for me to nope out on any Nassib stuff. Is he better than he was in Aug 2014? Probably. Will I ever consider him a worthy gamble? No sir. It's just an opinion. I don't WANT him to do bad, I don't want ANYONE to do bad really (other than Fred Lane), but for me personally I'd rather throw my $ at some other scrubs whose chances I like more.

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I remember they were Bleacher Report articles, but still.......

Nassib and Mike Glennon were both touted as #1 picks at one point. But then again, Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson were also slated to be First Round picks in 2012. Just imagine if they hadn't gone back for their senior years......

(I still probably have the nicest Tyler Wilson collection on the planet. Which is kind of like saying "I have the most extensive toe nail collection" at this point.)

Did you know that multiple teams tried to trade for Mike Glennon during the draft? Lovie Smith is a horrible head coach, who derailed Glennons career in Tampa. Just because he does that with all sorts of players on both sides of the ball doesn't say to me that what they do there actually means much. Glennon outplayed the new starting QB in Cleveland last year and his story's not over yet either. I tend to pay more attention to what someone does on the field then what they say about them before the draft but what they say about them does matter. There were people saying the Colts should have taken Leaf over Manning too. Those "experts" aren't usually right. A NFL draft "expert" is one of only two jobs you can get where it's expected your right maybe half the time

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I liked him after Mallett at Arkansas. At least he did you the service of washing out fast so as not to string you along.

It makes two years in a row that I've fallen for my favorite intangible with QBs: Toughness/Moxie


In 2013 I went all in on Terrance Williams (WR), Johnathan Franklin (RB), and Tyler Wilson (QB). Tyler Wilson solely because he wasn't a 1st round QB and because he primary description in scouting reports was "tough".

Then, in 2014, I did the same thing with Tajh Boyd based on his scouting reports that raved about his "moxie" and "competitiveness" and "gamer" mentality. We'll see if any of it works out.... :eatit:

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

It makes two years in a row that I've fallen for my favorite intangible with QBs: Toughness/Moxie


In 2013 I went all in on Terrance Williams (WR), Johnathan Franklin (RB), and Tyler Wilson (QB). Tyler Wilson solely because he wasn't a 1st round QB and because he primary description in scouting reports was "tough".

Then, in 2014, I did the same thing with Tajh Boyd based on his scouting reports that raved about his "moxie" and "competitiveness" and "gamer" mentality. We'll see if any of it works out.... :eatit:

That really sucked about Franklin. 2013 was kind of a horrible draft class, I picked the wrong time to get back into collecting! Why oh why couldn't I have done it a year earlier?

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by addicted36

A NFL draft "expert" is one of only two jobs you can get where it's expected your right maybe half the time

i'm guessing the other job is either "pastor", "president", or "weatherman".

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I liked him after Mallett at Arkansas. At least he did you the service of washing out fast so as not to string you along.

Never have been or ever saw much of anything in Mallett. In fact had he not gone to the ultra popular Patriots I seriously doubt he would still be in the league. He's just another Kevin O'Connell, bad third round QB bust by them to me

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

i'm guessing the other job is either "pastor", "president", or "weatherman".

umm weatherman was where I was going there lol

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

That really sucked about Franklin. 2013 was kind of a horrible draft class, I picked the wrong time to get back into collecting! Why oh why couldn't I have done it a year earlier?

I remember being so excited (and not just from an investing standpoint) during Franklin's big game against the Bengals that year...

....at least I seem to have hit on Terrance Williams. I remember buying up a lot of his Leaf Metal autos prior to the draft and then the Cowboys picked him. That cemented things for me. Now two years later I've got 24 or 25 1/1 of his and maybe the best overall collection of his going.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by addicted36

umm weatherman was where I was going there lol

Oh! Or hand-grenade/horseshoe tosser!

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Um, it's completely relevant to what I was talking about. You made it sound like I made the Painter stuff up out of the blue, I was just pointing you toward the article.

It is #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ man, article you posted is meaningless. I posted something newer, more relevant, much more in line with reality and the fact is you replied to me that it was too long and you didn't read it yet you pretend you know more about this then I do. I won't argue with crazy. Do whatever you like, think whatever you like I don't give a #@#@#@#@ this is stupid. Keep thinking Nassib struggles with Curtis Painter hahahahaha

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I remember being so excited (and not just from an investing standpoint) during Franklin's big game against the Bengals that year...

....at least I seem to have hit on Terrance Williams. I remember buying up a lot of his Leaf Metal autos prior to the draft and then the Cowboys picked him. That cemented things for me. Now two years later I've got 24 or 25 1/1 of his and maybe the best overall collection of his going.

I liked Justin Hunter lol, that preseason game he had last year I was like "YEAAAAA BOYYYY, GONNA BE DOING THAT EVERY SUNDAY"... that didn't work out too well. I only have a few of his cards though, always been a QB guy.

12 killed it for QBs, 14 has a shot to be good. 13 was a barren wasteland. Not excited about 15, so I'll get more of my 14 guys.

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Oh! Or hand-grenade/horseshoe tosser!

hahaha yup