What happened with Lebron James Topps Chrome RCs?

[ChefCurry312]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Buy yourself an Upper Deck RC

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Agree, I am mentioning the ones that are not in your list. TC will be the king but there are few others from his rookie year that have a lower graded pop and print run than TC and sell for less than TC base. The prices of these have gone up lately though but still have plenty of side.

1. Fleer Ultra Platinum medallion/100

2. UD Throwback/100

3. Flair Row#1/100

4. Fleer Flair/500,

5. Fleer Showcase/1000

6. 2002 XRC/499. I am throwing it in the list because it is LBJ's first NBA card

Other cards that are not serial numbered but have nice image and plenty of upside...

1. UD Rookie Exclusives #1 (dunking image)

2. UD Rookie Exclusives Black and White Variation (low pop)

3. UD MVP Rookie #201

4. Skybox LE Sky's the Limit


Lebron 2003 Rookie Exclusives by icollector23, on Flickr


Lebron 2003 MVP Rookie by icollector23, on Flickr

Lebron 2003 Fleer Ultra Gold Medallion by icollector23, on Flickr

Lebron 2002-03 UD Inspirations XRC by icollector23, on Flickr

2003 Fleer Flair #165/500 by icollector23, on Flickr

Lebron 2003 UD Legends Throwback #007/ 100 by icollector23, on Flickr

Lebron 2003 EX by icollector23, on Flickr

Lebron 2003 Fleer Mystique by icollector23, on Flickr

2003-04 Lebron UD Rookie Exclusive Variation. by icollector23, on Flickr

2003 Skybox Sky's The Limit by icollector23, on Flickr

Just wanted to give you guys a shout out! I picked up some UD lebron rookies not long after after seeing these posts in early March!

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by ChefCurry312

Just wanted to give you guys a shout out! I picked up some UD lebron rookies not long after after seeing these posts in early March!

Time for a bump....

[mkebucks2001]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Time for a bump....

Longtime lurker, new poster. I just sold my PSA 9 for $6000. I've been sitting on it for 15 years, so not a bad return. I'm sure it will continue to rise, but I needed the money for some health reasons. I'm going to try to buy one back in a few months (we'll see!) Crazy to see the interest in the hobby here.

[pokerkeith]

sorry to hear your health problems mkebucks2001. My guess is the card will continue to appreciate but at the end of the day your healthy is more important than a psa9 chrome lebron rc.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by mkebucks2001

Longtime lurker, new poster. I just sold my PSA 9 for $6000. I've been sitting on it for 15 years, so not a bad return. I'm sure it will continue to rise, but I needed the money for some health reasons. I'm going to try to buy one back in a few months (we'll see!) Crazy to see the interest in the hobby here.

Health and Family always comes first. Good luck

[mkebucks2001]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Health and Family always comes first. Good luck

Thanks all! I'll probably try to buy in again soon. I can foresee the PSA 9s hitting $10k pretty soon though. Wild huh?

[jw8]

Originally Posted by mkebucks2001

Thanks all! I'll probably try to buy in again soon. I can foresee the PSA 9s hitting $10k pretty soon though. Wild huh?

If the psa 10 gets to 30k I can see 9s around 10k. In my opinion bgs 8.5/9s are the real value and can still be had for around $3k-4k.

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[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by jw8

If the psa 10 gets to 30k I can see 9s around 10k. In my opinion bgs 8.5/9s are the real value and can still be had for around $3k-4k.

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Even though Lebron had many RC variants unlike Jordan, TC is his most sought after or must have RC for most collectors. With more people entering the hobby and the demand going up, I would not be surprised to see the prices going up more due to demand surpassing the supply. Total PSA pop is ~5600, Total BGS pop is ~7500.

[shootit]

ud reflections (triple dimensions) and ud true base rookie #301 thanks me later

topps #221 i think around 30 rookie checklist and one rookie per pack
ud #301 - around 50 rookie checlist and one rookie every 4 packs

[jw8]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Even though Lebron had many RC variants unlike Jordan, TC is his most sought after or must have RC for most collectors. With more people entering the hobby and the demand going up, I would not be surprised to see the prices going up more due to demand surpassing the supply. Total PSA pop is ~5600, Total BGS pop is ~7500.

And within those total pops there is a lot of double count from cracks and crossovers.

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[Willikn]

TC Lebron is the hobby's de facto "base rookie card". I do not expect that to ever change nor am I foolish enough to call that card a poor purchase. Still thinking if I'm buying one PSA 10 at or near that $$ range, I'm going EX, Pristine/1999 or Finest.

For the sake of conversation, if Jordan had multiple Fleer RCs, one had a PSA 10 population of 5,000 and another 39, how would that play in the market? Flagship Icon Iconic Flagship not withstanding.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by jw8

And within those total pops there is a lot of double count from cracks and crossovers.

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yes, the pop report is inflated by at least 25% in my opinion due to crossovers and crack & resubmissions.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by Willikn

TC Lebron is the hobby's de facto "base rookie card". I do not expect that to ever change nor am I foolish enough to call that card a poor purchase. Still thinking if I'm buying one PSA 10 at or near that $$ range, I'm going EX, Pristine/1999 or Finest.

For the sake of conversation, if Jordan had multiple Fleer RCs, one had a PSA 10 population of 5,000 and another 39, how would that play in the market? Flagship Icon Iconic Flagship not withstanding.

Everyone's collecting preference is different. Most would want to have a 2003 TC base (not necessarily a PSA 10) first before adding other RC variants to their PC. I started collecting sports cards in May 2018 and the first card I purchased was a 2003 Lebron TC PSA 10 .It is the same as a Jordan collector wanting to have a 1986 Fleer in any grade before adding XRC or 90's inserts. Imagine 10K collectors going after a 2003 TC base.

[jw8]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Everyone's collecting preference is different. Most would want to have a 2003 TC base (not necessarily a PSA 10) first before adding other RC variants to their PC. I started collecting sports cards in May 2018 and the first card I purchased was a 2003 Lebron TC PSA 10 It is the same as a Jordan collector wanting to have a 1986 Fleer in any grade before adding XRC or 90's inserts. Imagine 10K collectors going after a 2003 TC base.

So true and why we are seeing a lift in ALL MJ 86 Fleer grades, even the PSA 1/2 are being gobbled up because collectors just want to own the card. I foresee the same thing happening with lebron TC - once the majority are priced out of TC 10s the next best alternative is bgs 9.5 and that cycle will continue until demand has exceeded supply thus increasing prices all the way down the chain.

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[Burt-Reynolds]

Been inching my way back into cards, and of course at the worst possible time. Lol. So maybe I’m just reacting from fomo, but I want to get some James rookies before they get too much further out of reach. I have a local collector offering me these 2 chromes for $6500, and he’s throwing in a UD rookie exclusive and a 19/20 Pink Mosaic to the deal. I’m gonna try to get him down to somewhere between $5500-6000 cold hard cash. Provided I can get the price down a bit do I pull the trigger? He’s guaranteeing they are between a 9/10. Would appreciate any opinions.





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[MikawlBBC]

Top has a chance at 10 if everything else is clean but centering is what will push it down to a 9. Bottom, centering is so off that 9 would be a win.

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Been inching my way back into cards, and of course at the worst possible time. Lol. So maybe I’m just reacting from fomo, but I want to get some James rookies before they get too much further out of reach. I have a local collector offering me these 2 chromes for $6500, and he’s throwing in a UD rookie exclusive and a 19/20 Pink Mosaic to the deal. I’m gonna try to get him down to somewhere between $5500-6000 cold hard cash. Provided I can get the price down a bit do I pull the trigger? He’s guaranteeing they are between a 9/10. Would appreciate any opinions.






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[jw8]

I would be reluctant to buy any raw TC - there's gotta be a reason it's not in a slab.

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[hatchd]

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Been inching my way back into cards, and of course at the worst possible time. Lol. So maybe I’m just reacting from fomo, but I want to get some James rookies before they get too much further out of reach. I have a local collector offering me these 2 chromes for $6500, and he’s throwing in a UD rookie exclusive and a 19/20 Pink Mosaic to the deal. I’m gonna try to get him down to somewhere between $5500-6000 cold hard cash. Provided I can get the price down a bit do I pull the trigger? He’s guaranteeing they are between a 9/10. Would appreciate any opinions.





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How exactly does this guarantee work? Getting some money back if they come back 7's?


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[strider_boi]

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Been inching my way back into cards, and of course at the worst possible time. Lol. So maybe I’m just reacting from fomo, but I want to get some James rookies before they get too much further out of reach. I have a local collector offering me these 2 chromes for $6500, and he’s throwing in a UD rookie exclusive and a 19/20 Pink Mosaic to the deal. I’m gonna try to get him down to somewhere between $5500-6000 cold hard cash. Provided I can get the price down a bit do I pull the trigger? He’s guaranteeing they are between a 9/10. Would appreciate any opinions.





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both will be psa 8's... top has a slim chance at a BGS 8.5-9

[mc1]

Originally Posted by strider_boi

both will be psa 8's... top has a slim chance at a BGS 8.5-9

No need to send it to PSA, thanks for your expert opinion.

[Adam85]

Everyone selling their cards on local facebook pages think their cards will come back 10's and price them as such, it's frustrating.

[Burt-Reynolds]

Originally Posted by hatchd

How exactly does this guarantee work? Getting some money back if they come back 7's?


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Of course not. I’d still have to go look at them myself and make that judgment, this is just his opinion. I wouldn’t buy them without looking at them and inspecting them closely.


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[Burt-Reynolds]

Originally Posted by strider_boi

both will be psa 8's... top has a slim chance at a BGS 8.5-9

Curious what your thinking is on this? The centering on the top one looks really good. I understand the bottom one has issues top to bottom, but I’ve seen 9’s with similar centering on eBay. As long as the surfaces are clean and corners sharp what would keep these from gettin 9’s?


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[Craphit]

Nether have a chance at a PSA 10 or BGS 9.5. I'd bet big money on that. The majority of my time on Ebay is spent looking at graded TC Lebron rookies. I have 1 BGS quad 9.5 and one I recently got graded BGS 9. You'd be hoping for a 9 at best, I think BGS 8.5 is more likely.

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Been inching my way back into cards, and of course at the worst possible time. Lol. So maybe I’m just reacting from fomo, but I want to get some James rookies before they get too much further out of reach. I have a local collector offering me these 2 chromes for $6500, and he’s throwing in a UD rookie exclusive and a 19/20 Pink Mosaic to the deal. I’m gonna try to get him down to somewhere between $5500-6000 cold hard cash. Provided I can get the price down a bit do I pull the trigger? He’s guaranteeing they are between a 9/10. Would appreciate any opinions.





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[Burt-Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Craphit

Nether have a chance at a PSA 10 or BGS 9.5. I'd bet big money on that. The majority of my time on Ebay is spent looking at graded TC Lebron rookies. I have 1 BGS quad 9.5 and one I recently got graded BGS 9. You'd be hoping for a 9 at best, I think BGS 8.5 is more likely.

Okay, not knocking your opinion and saying you’re wrong, but what makes you say that based on a couple pictures? I’d be happy with 9’s too, but why 8.5?


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