2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

If a 74 year old, overweight man w/ a fast food diet can be in and out of COVID in three days, you can to!

Start printing the T-shirts. Much to do about nothing.

He really had no choice with his polling #'s continuing to decline. It's now or never.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by discostu

February 25th I believe. A few thousand people had already died globally and Italy would be locked down a week later.

Meanwhile, the CDC reported the first Covid-19 case in the United States a month earlier, in January.

When McEnany made the quote (and you can argue that it was set more as a jab to Obama rather than providing actual information), the global concern was already high. Very high.

Nothing personal, but blah, blah, blah

No leader in the world has the perfect response to this virus. Except maybe China. lol If you look at China stats they have it completely under control. lol We have been duped.

Canada has been cited by BO members as a model for the US. Well, with all the precautions we have taken, we are now seeing record daily infections.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by pac213up

He really had no choice with his polling #'s continuing to decline. It's now or never.

I'm not saying that this was intentional... but one could argue the risk was all upside!

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Yet we want to hold accountable an 18 year old and her child for bad decisions. Sorry, that is screwed up and hypocritical.

Quite possibly THE DUMBEST COMMENT I've read in this entire thread.
Why shouldn't that person be held accountable, along with the father?
Accountability being both the mother and the father taking responsibility for their mistake.
How in the blue hell is their mistake my or anyone else's accountability?

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

You got his quote right, but left out some other words he said:

Fauci said - Right now, at this moment - don't change, But it could change and to watch out.

https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci...et-79684677616

I didn't leave anything out it my quote says at that time. So slow down before you say i left something out.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Well, maybe not today, because you guys are Faucists in the way things "evolve". But all along it has been "he knew and didn't tell us".

That's not be it at all though. I mean it's always been the Trump administration has not updated their guidance based on the latest and greatest science.

I'm still confused a bit what the debate is. Would you agree or disagree that the Trump administration has been slow to adopt policies and procedures as new discoveries are made about COVID-19?

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Can you quote any Republican here who said they know more than scientists?

You certainly ignore them consistently on this, global warming, etc.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm still confused a bit what the debate is. Would you agree or disagree that the Trump administration has been slow to adopt policies and procedures as new discoveries are made about COVID-19?

Honest question. Beyond "wear a mask when around others", what science are you referring to when you say "new discoveries".

Is there really anything, in six months time, that people should be doing that they were not doing in March?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You certainly ignore them consistently on this, global warming, etc.

So thats a "no".... noted.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Quite possibly THE DUMBEST COMMENT I've read in this entire thread.
Why shouldn't that person be held accountable, along with the father?
Accountability being both the mother and the father taking responsibility for their mistake.
How in the blue hell is their mistake my or anyone else's accountability?

Why don’t we hold large corporations like American Airlines, GM, or BOA accountable?

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

That's not be it at all though. I mean it's always been the Trump administration has not updated their guidance based on the latest and greatest science.

I'm still confused a bit what the debate is. Would you agree or disagree that the Trump administration has been slow to adopt policies and procedures as new discoveries are made about COVID-19?

i believe that a lot of it was left up to the state governments which is should be and it was very early March when most states started shutting down, so not sure what else President is supposed to do?

if he would of made national mask mandates or anything like that he would of been classified a tyrant. He got laughed at for trying to stop travel from China, I can only imagine the reaction if he would've went further.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Honest question. Beyond "wear a mask when around others", what science are you referring to when you say "new discoveries".

Is there really anything, in six months time, that people should be doing that they were not doing in March?

That is a pretty huge and simple one that trump had ignored. Also not to hold large rallies needlessly which we are seeing why now. Also Herman Cain says hello.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Honest question. Beyond "wear a mask when around others", what science are you referring to when you say "new discoveries".

Is there really anything, in six months time, that people should be doing that they were not doing in March?

Well people still aren't wearing masks and think it's some kind of government ploy to control people so there's that. The President in a debate last week, made fun of his opponent for wearing a mask when out in public. That doesn't help.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You certainly ignore them consistently on this, global warming, etc.

I ignore scientists on COVID and.......global warming? Quote me on either one. Thanks in advance.

What a fraud.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

That is a pretty huge and simple one that trump had ignored. Also not to hold large rallies needlessly which we are seeing why now. Also Herman Cain says hello.

But many "experts" say that outside events were safe?? or am i wrong?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Why don’t we hold large corporations like American Airlines, GM, or BOA accountable?

Quote me where I said we shouldn't. With that said, one adds something to our economy, the other, not so much.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Clark

Thanks for sharing. You are a model of success and I appreciate your motivation to overcome the statistics. You are a positive statistic!

Thanks. But I wasn't trying to toot my own horn. I apologize if I came off like that.

I am not a model of anything. Trust me, I've made my share of mistakes and had my share of setbacks.

I am, however, proof that an American can create their own destiny, that we are not locked into cycles of poverty, that as long as we have our health, we can find a way to take care of ourselves.

I had help as a child. Foster care gave me a chance. I am grateful to the families that took me in and to the orphanages and halfway houses too. As an adult, I have never, ever felt like anyone "owed" me anything and I have never felt entitled to anything more than the opportunities afforded a United States citizen. I get a little bit disgusted when I see that in others, the whole "gimme something" game.

All we are owed is opportunity. That's it. Do with it what you will.


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[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by cnewby

So thats a "no".... noted.

There really isn’t a difference between saying you know more and calling things they say are serious like COVID and client change hoaxes...though if you feel you won by playing semantics feel free to take the W.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

That is a pretty huge and simple one that trump had ignored. Also not to hold large rallies needlessly which we are seeing why now. Also Herman Cain says hello.

There was like 41,000 people marching in Washington last week; and there are plenty of people on the record saying that's completely fine.

So I don't think mass gatherings are a problem.

[trixstar]

Don’t let Covid get you down. It’s me the president with round the clock world class health care who was given multiple experimental drugs on a moments notice that 99.9% of the population won’t have access to


But don’t let it worry you while you die alone

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

i believe that a lot of it was left up to the state governments which is should be and it was very early March when most states started shutting down, so not sure what else President is supposed to do?

if he would of made national mask mandates or anything like that he would of been classified a tyrant. He got laughed at for trying to stop travel from China, I can only imagine the reaction if he would've went further.

Maybe not issue a mandatory mask mandate, but it would have helped things had he not blasted mask wearing and instead went out in public with a mask on. People follow the leader so had they seen him and Biden and other wearing a mask, they'd follow suit.

I always said Trump missed a golden opportunity. Invite, Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama to the White House. Gather the heads of each party at the White House. Take a few photos of people socially distanced while wearing a mask. Put in the caption, "Please, do your part." Simple. It shows unity and it helps people realize that what's being asked isn't that hard and has a positive impact.

He didn't do any of that. He continues, to this day, to play down the impact the outbreak has had on people and the economy.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

I ignore scientists on COVID and.......global warming? Quote me on either one. Thanks in advance.

What a fraud.

Are you for real. You have been in here slamming fauci for the last two pages.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

There really isn’t a difference between saying you know more and calling things they say are serious like COVID and client change hoaxes...though if you feel you won by playing semantics feel free to take the W.

so just stop for a second.... I personally had covid and one of my best friends also had it. The virus is not a joke, but many of the reactions and the constant inconsistencies by the experts has totally been a joke and to put that on the President just isn't right

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

But many "experts" say that outside events were safe?? or am i wrong?

Yeah...if you distance and take proper precautions. Sitting on top of each other like the rose garden event without masks is not what they meant.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

There really isn’t a difference between saying you know more and calling things they say are serious like COVID and client change hoaxes...though if you feel you won by playing semantics feel free to take the W.

But you called me out specifically. Show me where I called either one a hoax, or go away forever. Put your money where your mouth is.