2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

What is rotten about this?

I mean the Attorney General is taking bribes among other crimes not to mention he's already under investigation for securities fraud. I don't know if you're joking or not lol

"accused of" im sure they're just making it up lol

[jstephens24]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Why don't you show me that USA today article that says department manager are making 100K+ a year at walmart. Do you really expect me to believe the person managing the deli at Walmart makes 6 figures?

BTW, it is not at all atypical in most corporate setting for managers to make only minimally more than their employees. I know at our bank's call center front line employees make 15-20 an hour or so based on their tenure, and manager MAYBE 25 an hour?

you never specified department manager until just now. A supervisor makes 10% more than us in my field so that sounds about right. I work at a chemical plant

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I mean the Attorney General is taking bribes among other crimes not to mention he's already under investigation for securities fraud. I don't know if you're joking or not lol

"accused of" im sure they're just making it up lol

He's taking bribes? From who?

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

He's taking bribes? From who?

If you want to question the validity of a news story then go ahead but this is 7 aides including his top assistant. The article clearly states each and every one of them have details on the offenses and that they have given the information to law enforcement official.

[BTownCards]

Need more politicians !

Good people on both sides.


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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

If you want to question the validity of a news story then go ahead but this is 7 aides including his top assistant. The article clearly states each and every one of them have details on the offenses and that they have given the information to law enforcement official.

Then I guess we await the charges, evidence and the trial.

Until then, it's just noise. I love when people all group up to sign a letter... it's like "Wow, look at all those people!"

It's a letter.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by trixstar

https://www.statesman.com/news/20201...abusing-office

Rotten to the core

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

What is rotten about this?

I think anyone referring to the notion of trans children as "Satan's plan," is most certainly rotten to the core.

I wonder if he applauds the 50% of trans children who attempt suicide as "God's warriors" for attempting the thwart the Devil's plan by attempting to take their own innocent lives.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

I think anyone referring to the notion of trans children as "Satan's plan," is most certainly rotten to the core.

I wonder if he applauds the 50% of trans children who attempt suicide as "God's warriors" for attempting the thwart the Devil's plan by attempting to take their own innocent lives.

There are no words to express how insane this kind of post is. Setting aside Paxton's words in 2015 regarding Satan's plan, and your sarcasm regard God's warriors, I would love to explore the sentence in the middle. "I wonder if he applauds the 50% of trans children who attempt suicide"

A simple question. What is a trans child?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

There are no words to express how insane this kind of post is. Setting aside Paxton's words in 2015 regarding Satan's plan, and your sarcasm regard God's warriors, I would love to explore the sentence in the middle. "I wonder if he applauds the 50% of trans children who attempt suicide"

A simple question. What is a trans child?

Simple questions have simple answers. You're surely able to figure this out.

Regardless, explore away...unless your google webs are broken.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

Simple questions have simple answers. You're surely able to figure this out.

Regardless, explore away...unless your google webs are broken.

I'm asking you. Because I don't believe you understand the study you mentioned.

So I ask again.

What is a trans child?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I'm asking you. Because I don't believe you understand the study you mentioned.

So I ask again.

What is a trans child?

A trans child...a child with gender dysphoria.

50% of female to male trans children...is that what you're trying to nail me on?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

A trans child...a child with gender dysphoria.

50% of female to male trans children...is that what you're trying to nail me on?

Aren't you stating two completely separate things? A trans child is one who has transitioned. It's in the name.

The study you reference had data on 121,200 children from 2012 - 2015. Of those zero of them were trans. 1,068 of these children answered a question "No" that was asked "Are you certain of your gender identity" and it is from this group, that 51% of the respondents had said they had attempted suicide.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

There are no words to express how insane this kind of post is. Setting aside Paxton's words in 2015 regarding Satan's plan, and your sarcasm regard God's warriors, I would love to explore the sentence in the middle. "I wonder if he applauds the 50% of trans children who attempt suicide"

A simple question. What is a trans child?

What are your thoughts on children that don't identify as their born gender?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

What are your thoughts on children that don't identify as their born gender?

Can you expand on the question?

Thoughts as a parent raising a child who feels this way or thoughts in general?

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Can you expand on the question?

Thoughts as a parent raising a child who feels this way or thoughts in general?

In general.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

In general.

I think that every available effort should be made to help children figure out who they are. Therapies, drugs, strategies and anything else that can be done to help the grow up w/ confidence.

Under no circumstances should that include surgery or medial procedures. Flood these children with as much love and support as you can, end of story.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I think that every available effort should be made to help children figure out who they are. Therapies, drugs, strategies and anything else that can be done to help the grow up w/ confidence.

Under no circumstances should that include surgery or medial procedures. Flood these children with as much love and support as you can, end of story.

So they should be forced to live with a gender they don't identify with?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

So they should be forced to live with a gender they don't identify with?

Until they are able to make their own choice as an adult, yes, absolutely.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

And I know plenty of people who went to school and are in education. They went to a state school and still ended up 30-50K in debt. Then they couldn't find a job and had to move to a state that pays less, or a higher cost of living area. Some started making under 30K a year. Some make 50K a year or so but are in the DC metro so are struggling. They did everything right in getting a degree in a high demand profession and still can struggle to make ends meet.

If they ended up 30-50k in debt, they didn't do it how I did.

I grew up in foster care. No parents. When I turned 18, I was on my own. No help. Zero. I hadn't even graduated high school yet.

By age 22 I had paid my own way through community college. No debt. No help. No grants. No loans. Nothing. Yeah, it took me 4 years to get a 2 year degree. Then I went to university. Again, no debt. I paid as I went. I couldn't go full-time anyway. I had to work 50+ hours s week to pay tuition, rent, and food.

Was it easy? Hell no. But it was possible.

I'm not especially smart. I had exactly zero help.

Tell me again about your friends' sob story.

I'm not saying my story is the way it should be. I'm in favor of helping people come up, if they work for it...despite not having help myself. But stop with the crap about "they're in debt, it sucks, blah blah".

Personal freaking responsibility. Period.

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[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Until they are able to make their own choice as an adult, yes, absolutely.

Have a goodnight.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

If they ended up 30-50k in debt, they didn't do it how I did.

I grew up in foster care. No parents. When I turned 18, I was on my own. No help. Zero. I hadn't even graduated high school yet.

By age 22 I had paid my own way through community college. No debt. No help. No grants. No loans. Nothing. Yeah, it took me 4 years to get a 2 year degree. Then I went to university. Again, no debt. I paid as I went. I couldn't go full-time anyway. I had to work 50+ hours s week to pay tuition, rent, and food.

Was it easy? Hell no. But it was possible.

I'm not especially smart. I had exactly zero help.

Tell me again about your friends' sob story.

I'm not saying my story is the way it should be. I'm in favor of helping people come up, if they work for it...despite not having help myself. But stop with the crap about "they're in debt, it sucks, blah blah".

Personal freaking responsibility. Period.

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This is somewhat important. When did you go to college?

Because today, frankly, even working 40 hours a week on a 10 dollar an hour job, you cannot afford to pay your way through college and live. It simply is not possible. You can be smarter and to the community college route in some cases, but in most of my friends cases they are music educators, and that program is very strictly four years the way it is designed so community college isn't feasible. I also started out in the program but quickly decided it wasn't for me and it was not a traditional 3 credit courses take five classes a semester. You were taking multiple one and 2 credit courses but they often had the exact same workload as a 3 credit course. A normal daily schedule was like this

MW
8Am 1 credit course
10 AM 1 credit course
11 AM 1 credit course
12 PM 2 credit course

Tuesday and Thursday, same thing. Then the afternoon you practiced for 1-3 hours a day and had 2-4 ensembles you were in that met 2-3 times a week. This also does not include the general study courses you had to take on top of the music classes.

So good for you that you could do it that way, but not everyone in every field can go about it like you did, so get off your high horse acting like you are superior to the rest of the universe. My friends in college were essentially working 60-70 hours a week between classes, practice, and studies. Many music educators I know put in 60+ hours a week between the normal school week, marching band, musicals, and general after school practices.

Again, you aren't special, and just because someone has student debt, or is living paycheck to paycheck doesn't make them lazy. It is insulting and demeaning to suggest it and you can shove it with your personal responsibility garbage.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

This is somewhat important. When did you go to college?

I went to community college from 1991-1995. I went to ASU from 1996-1999.

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Have a goodnight.

They're kids, you know. They don't #&!( about anything. The feelings they feel today are not hardened, rooted in years and years of experience. Everything they know has likely revolved around school and social media.

To allow a child to make a life changing decision at such a young age is a terrible decision. We don't let them drink, drive, vote or have any real responsibility in life until the age of 17/18/21 for a reason. A good reason.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I went to community college from 1991-1995. I went to ASU from 1996-1999.

Frenzy, I blame you for this. Not sure how or for what, but I blame you.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Frenzy, I blame you for this. Not sure how or for what, but I blame you.

Wait...huh?

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